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Spiderman Flag Horsham 05 Sep 19 6.55pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Most of the polls suggest remain now lead by 8% or thereabouts.

I didn't follow the BBC but the Guardian National results for the May 2019 EU poll show remain parties 53.5% leave 44.0% which bears this out.

But polls can be wrong as we know.

Who did they consider as remain parties?

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 05 Sep 19 6.56pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Well first and foremost I'm a nationalist, so the concept of an EU as a political entity is off the shelf for me.

As a trading block and military alliance, that has been going on in one form or another for centuries...sure share projects on science and so on.....but not as a political body with a flag, anthem and currency which decides the laws that I live by.....and has leaders with an agenda to integrate my country into part of its empire.

Na.....that's for those who have lost contact with the land and genetics that they came from.


Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Sep 2019 6.44pm)

That is a real load of old cobblers.

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 05 Sep 19 6.58pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Only left wing yanks

Or Brits that abandoned a sinking ship and do nothing but criticise those that vote in a different way to them

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 05 Sep 19 6.59pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Who did they consider as remain parties?

Labour 20.3%
Lib-Dem 14.1%
Green 12.1%
Change 3.6%
SNP 3.4%


 

Stirlingsays Flag 05 Sep 19 7.02pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

That is a real load of old cobblers.

No one asked for your dating history.

 


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davenotamonkey Flag 05 Sep 19 7.19pm

LOL. Not only is this message in itself hilarious, but she can't manage a pre-canned 50-second message without a cut. No, better yet. The video cuts twice.

God save us if Diane and her fancy mathematical Abbottcus get into power.

Still, back to my "StopTheCoup" protests - nasty dictator that Boris.

 

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Sep 19 7.24pm

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

LOL. Not only is this message in itself hilarious, but she can't manage a pre-canned 50-second message without a cut. No, better yet. The video cuts twice.

God save us if Diane and her fancy mathematical Abbottcus get into power.

Still, back to my "StopTheCoup" protests - nasty dictator that Boris.

One of the two reasons why Labour will not win any election. You can guess the other one.

 


Red and Blue Army!

Midlands Eagle Flag 05 Sep 19 7.25pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Fear not mate you wont be yellow carded! Right wingers dont get that treatment round these ere parts!

I think that ChrisGC might disagree with you

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 05 Sep 19 7.32pm

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

LOL. Not only is this message in itself hilarious, but she can't manage a pre-canned 50-second message without a cut. No, better yet. The video cuts twice.

God save us if Diane and her fancy mathematical Abbottcus get into power.

Still, back to my "StopTheCoup" protests - nasty dictator that Boris.

Diane speaking to her flock.

What is funny is that some dumb arses will actually buy this drivel.

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 05 Sep 19 7.38pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

One of the two reasons why Labour will not win any election. You can guess the other one.

Diane Abbott as Home Secretary! -.-' -.-'

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 05 Sep 19 8.40pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Customs Union, freedom of movement. Out but really in. Could get worse. Moves on the U.K. financial sector.

In the future I’m expecting control of our fiscal and monetary policy and no doubt mandatory into a single European currency.

This hugging of our European friends and pretending to all be completely the same seems so romantic but we all know how different we are and how they can’t wait to scoff at us having to wait an extra 20 mins at arrivals with a different passport in hand.

Laughing stock? Parliament maybe, but who cares about them when everyone is out and about.

The young remainers should ask Mediterranean youngsters what they think about the EU these days.

The concept that this is all the fault of "young remainers" is really funny.

Firstly, they have so much more interest in getting this right than the "old leavers"! Just do the maths!

Secondly there are plenty of "old remainers". I am, and my friends at the pub and in my club are too.

As balancing the competing interests of the various sections of UK society is the responsibility of our elected representatives why don't we simply support them in their difficult task of trying to find a reasonable compromise that might not please anyone completely but be acceptable to most.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 05 Sep 19 8.49pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The concept that this is all the fault of "young remainers" is really funny.

Firstly, they have so much more interest in getting this right than the "old leavers"! Just do the maths!

Secondly there are plenty of "old remainers". I am, and my friends at the pub and in my club are too.

As balancing the competing interests of the various sections of UK society is the responsibility of our elected representatives why don't we simply support them in their difficult task of trying to find a reasonable compromise that might not please anyone completely but be acceptable to most.

I bet that's an exciting meet with no opposing views.
There were 3 reasonable compromises offered by TM.
All voted down.
Now how can it ever be reasonable.
Labour dont want a GE.
Tory and labour MPs defecting.
Libs wanting to remain.
It's like an ealing comedy.
Carry on brexit!
If this was a movie anyone not knowing it's happening right now would think it was crap and could never be factual.
The ultimate would be the EU vetoing an extension.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 05 Sep 19 8.52pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Is there a deadline after which a PM won’t be able to rip up the law banning a no deal Brexit?

PMs don't make or rip up laws.

That's the job of Parliament.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 05 Sep 19 8.52pm

Originally posted by cryrst

The ultimate would be the EU vetoing an extension.

Fun times.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Sep 2019 8.53pm)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 05 Sep 19 8.59pm

Originally posted by Badger11

It seems that Parliament will pass the bill which forces the PM to ask the EU leaders for an extension.

All EU leaders will have to agree to that and it occurs to me that the bill doesn't say how the PM should ask for an extension.

Boris is not known for his tact and at the Spectator his nickname was Brute.

I will leave it to your imagination to wonder how Boris asks Chancellor Merkel, President Macron et all it may not be diplomatic.

On a more serious note it is possible that he will persuade one of our allies (do we have any) to vote no in return for a favour.


Edited by Badger11 (05 Sep 2019 3.32pm)

It's my understanding that the bill specifies the wording of the letter Johnson must write precisely because he isn't trusted.

A much bigger problem is whether he would use the UK's veto against his own proposal!

How the EU would react to such a move can only be guessed at but they would have little legal room for manoeuvre. The consequences at home are mind blowing/

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 05 Sep 19 9.05pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Midland you little darling your right. It has to be unanimous and that includes us.

This has been anticipated for a while and will be in the front of the minds of Johnson's opponents as they contemplate whether to agree to an early election with the prospect of installing an interim national government.

This looks to me like the real end game strategy.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 05 Sep 19 9.16pm

Originally posted by cryrst

I bet that's an exciting meet with no opposing views.
There were 3 reasonable compromises offered by TM.
All voted down.
Now how can it ever be reasonable.
Labour dont want a GE.
Tory and labour MPs defecting.
Libs wanting to remain.
It's like an ealing comedy.
Carry on brexit!
If this was a movie anyone not knowing it's happening right now would think it was crap and could never be factual.
The ultimate would be the EU vetoing an extension.

I and most of my friends would have accepted the "May" deal but it was scuppered by a variety of different competing interests. I just wonder if it would get through now though!

Labour don't want a GE on any terms. Like everything you need to set priorities.

A compromise solution is there. It just needs to be proposed in the right way at the right time.

 


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Maine Eagle Flag USA 05 Sep 19 9.53pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I think that ChrisGC might disagree with you

Allow me to qualify that.

Right wingers who aren't utterly offensive in virtually every post they make, insulting everyone left right and center.

Sorry, Chris....lol.

 


Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Stirlingsays Flag 05 Sep 19 9.56pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Allow me to qualify that.

Right wingers who aren't utterly offensive in virtually every post they make, insulting everyone left right and center.

Sorry, Chris....lol.

Whatever is said about Chris.....he was on the right side of the tracks.

 


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Maine Eagle Flag USA 05 Sep 19 11.11pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Whatever is said about Chris.....he was on the right side of the tracks.

Was?

Did he get red carded??

 


Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

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