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 Stirlingsays  05 Apr 19 3.14pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Waking up as Trump one morning would actually be my worst nightmare. Like most bullies I think deep down he is unsure of himself, desperately cares what people think about him and is pretty unhappy in his life.
It's certainly true that bullying can and does come from unpleasant environments. However, this negates the reality that some people are also naturally more aggressive or driven/selfish than others leading to tendencies that result in bullying without a bad home life being the cause. Many people who bullied at school for example, grow up and look back with regret at some behaviours without the excuse of bad parents. Essentially....yeah lots of kids bully because it's an expression of problems at home......but it's also true that some kids are just nicer than others. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Apr 2019 3.16pm)
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Teddy Eagle  05 Apr 19 3.26pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
No I mean just that, have you seen a MAGA rally? There isnt quite the quite and stoic dignity of the struggling working class at a MAGA rally. To appeal to the baying mob at a MAGA rally, you kind of have to be putting out a bunch of low brow guff tinged with xenophobia, fear of socialism, and a strong "us against the world" rhetoric. But judging all Trump voters by that criterion would be the same as saying all Hilary supporters were all Antifa mask wearers. This sounds like confirmation bias.
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| Maine Eagle USA 05 Apr 19 3.28pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
But judging all Trump voters by that criterion would be the same as saying all Hilary supporters were all Antifa mask wearers. This sounds like confirmation bias. I was talking about the MAGA rally mob. I dont think all Trump voters are that type of person.
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 05 Apr 19 3.34pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
I wouldnt agree that I have a lot of bitterness inside me, and that I "envy" Donald Trump. I just believe Trump is a train wreck as a president and is doing terrible harm to the fabric of American society. I live here permanently, have lived all over the States, and have been here for over 15 years, so perhaps I am a bit closer to the issue than you, PengeEagle, with your short lived stay in the bubble in LA. If that makes you an expert on all matters American, then I guess you qualify? No need to start throwing insults around, as you often seem to do, more than happy to discuss the matters at hand in a calm way. Waking up as Trump one morning would actually be my worst nightmare. Like most bullies I think deep down he is unsure of himself, desperately cares what people think about him and is pretty unhappy in his life. I think the question here was on Trump's mental aptitude. I think we need to look into the oranges there. So you insult half the population of the USA as “slack jawed slobbering rednecks” and go into a character assassination of a guy you have never met and have no idea of his mental health situation. Yet when I point out your wrath and envy (two of the Seven Deadly Sins I wish people would focus on policy and not personality in politics.
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), then I'm the one throwing around insults. 
| Teddy Eagle 05 Apr 19 3.36pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
I was talking about the MAGA rally mob. I dont think all Trump voters are that type of person. No one ever lost a dollar by underestimating the taste of the American public - P.T. Barnum.
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| Maine Eagle USA 05 Apr 19 3.39pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's certainly true that bullying can and does come from unpleasant environments. However, this negates the reality that some people are also naturally more aggressive or driven/selfish than others leading to tendencies that result in bullying without a bad home life being the cause. Many people who bullied at school for example, grow up and look back with regret at some behaviours without the excuse of bad parents. Essentially....yeah lots of kids bully because it's an expression of problems at home......but it's also true that some kids are just nicer than others. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Apr 2019 3.16pm) Definitely agree to some of what you say here, Stirlingsays. There are certainly different core reasons and also its very subjective as one man's assertiveness is another man's bullying. However Trump is a classic bully. One thing he is learning now is you cannot bully Nancy Pelosi, she is too canny an operator for that. There are little clues in what he does and says that he cares desperately what people think about him, and I honestly believe he is a desperately unhappy person. Unable to command the inherent respect of great heroic figures like McCain or dare I say Mueller, the more he tries to get that love, affirmation and respect, the more he alienates a lot of people, this increases his will to dominate and bully. My view in general is that most bullies are acting this way because of a usually (possibly) subconscious/somewhat subconscious large inferiority complex and essentially a lack of confidence. I think Trump thought that being president would finally see him revered, feared, and adored by the nation, but his actions make that impossible. Bullies project strength and domination of others, as they actually lack strength, and feel fear. Also if you dictate and frame an interaction with someone else with you as the dominant force, you cannot become the submissive one, so you nip that in the bud - perhaps past submissive interactions haunt a bully. Someone comfortable in their own skin doesn't usually bully people.
Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha. |
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| Maine Eagle USA 05 Apr 19 3.40pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
No one ever lost a dollar by underestimating the taste of the American public - P.T. Barnum. Another Barnum humdinger: “The noblest art is that of making others happy”. That seems to have gone out the window in the America of 2019.
Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha. |
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| Maine Eagle USA 05 Apr 19 3.58pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
So you insult half the population of the USA as “slack jawed slobbering rednecks” and go into a character assassination of a guy you have never met and have no idea of his mental health situation. Yet when I point out your wrath and envy (two of the Seven Deadly Sins I wish people would focus on policy and not personality in politics. The only way to insult half the nation, is to have a go at Hillary supporters, as she won 65.8 million votes, to Donald's 62.9, giving her 48.2, to his 46.1%. Given his shellacking in the mid terms, you really are stretching to call half of this country Trump fans. However, certainly not all Trump "supporters" are MAGA rally attending loons. Many millions who voted for Trump did so through gritted teeth, just like Richard Drax on MV3. No one needs to assassinate Trump's character, Penge Eagle, as he doesnt have one. Assassinating Trump's character is like pointing out that Sorloth is s*** at football. Its piss easy. He has the single worst character of any president in the history of the Union, including Tricky Dick. This thread is called "bias against Trump" so I think the entire purpose is to debate identity politics, amongst other things. If you dont like that there is a cracking thread going on about Brexit which you might have noticed.
Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha. |
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| Teddy Eagle 05 Apr 19 4.17pm |
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A bit Sophie’s Choice but a night out with Trump or Putin?
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| Stirlingsays 05 Apr 19 4.19pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
A bit Sophie’s Choice but a night out with Trump or Putin? Trump...I like burgers and he isn't sanctioning the murder of people on our soil.
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| Maine Eagle USA 05 Apr 19 4.35pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
A bit Sophie’s Choice but a night out with Trump or Putin? Putin all day. He is murderous despot, but he is more interesting than Trump any day.
Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha. |
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| Teddy Eagle 05 Apr 19 4.39pm |
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Think I’d go with Trump. Burgers and beer wins over shirtless horse riding. And Putin would probably want to wrestle at some stage. The horror. The horror.
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| Maine Eagle USA 05 Apr 19 5.16pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Trump is an outsider. I like that. He is not part of the established secret world government. Come on, we all know it exists.
Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha. |
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 05 Apr 19 5.24pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
He has the single worst character of any president in the history of the Union, including Tricky Dick. This thread is called "bias against Trump" so I think the entire purpose is to debate identity politics, amongst other things. Bill Clinton had an affair with Monica Lewinsky while president. And you might also want to ask what Juanita Broaddrick and the three other women who accuse him of sexual assault think of his character. I don't believe in identity politics and that was not the purpose of the topic even though leftists like you are obsessed about it.
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| Maine Eagle USA 05 Apr 19 5.46pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
Bill Clinton had an affair with Monica Lewinsky while president. And you might also want to ask what Juanita Broaddrick and the three other women who accuse him of sexual assault think of his character. I don't believe in identity politics and that was not the purpose of the topic even though leftists like you are obsessed about it. Having an affair while president! Scandalous. Trump broke campaign finance laws while president. Many people have had affairs, not quite as many have broken campaign finance laws or obstructed justice. Once again going on about rape allegations against Clinton, eh Penge Eagle. Are you looking to assassinate his character? Many women have accused Trump and Clinton of such things. You seem a bit obsessed with Bill Clinton? This thread is about Donald Trump. Clinton converted the largest budget deficit in American history into the largest surplus, and brought the lowest government spending in 30 years. Meanwhile the Donald is overseeing the deficit reaching $1 trillion this year. If Trump can achieve just 25% of what Bill Clinton did as president, he will be doing better than expected. After being impeached, President Clinton had a 73% approval rating. His final approval rating was 65%. Trump's lack of integrity, moral standards, and normal behavior (often known as one's character) mean he will never reach those levels.
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| Teddy Eagle 05 Apr 19 5.50pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Having an affair while president! Scandalous. Trump broke campaign finance laws while president. Many people have had affairs, not quite as many have broken campaign finance laws or obstructed justice. Once again going on about rape allegations against Clinton, eh Penge Eagle. Are you looking to assassinate his character? Many women have accused Trump and Clinton of such things. You seem a bit obsessed with Bill Clinton? This thread is about Donald Trump. Clinton converted the largest budget deficit in American history into the largest surplus, and brought the lowest government spending in 30 years. Meanwhile the Donald is overseeing the deficit reaching trillion this year. If Trump can achieve just 25% of what Bill Clinton did as president, he will be doing better than expected. After being impeached, President Clinton had a 73% approval rating. His final approval rating was 65%. Trump's lack of integrity, moral standards, and normal behavior (often known as one's character) mean he will never reach those levels. After being impeached? Apart from that Mrs. Lincoln how did you enjoy the play?
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 Hrolf The Ganger 05 Apr 19 5.56pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
I guess you are just one of these people who believes that everything is exactly as it seems. I'm not going to waste time trying to changing your mind.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 05 Apr 19 6.02pm |
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People have forgotten that some wanted to impeach George W too. At least Blair quit. That was the price of being a scumbag.
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