Well for what it's worth I do think it's a more likely scenario than a 2nd referendum. It would cause uproar though, and the very same issues prior to Brexit would remain. I'm all for taking on board views across the board, but I would see that as being Soft Brexit territory or something along those lines.

Concerns about mass immigration and so on surely will only intensify if we remain. I do appreciate the argument of trying to change the EU from the inside, but how likely is that. Granted we can veto future changes to in from the inside but that doesn't change anything already in place.

There is or was perhaps an argument, while inside the EU, for trying to limit numbers by making the process very convoluted, paying whatever fines come our way but I don't actually think our government would adhere to that anyway. They quite liked the set up of having cheap labour while being able to blame the EU for it. Win-win.

Not that I'm saying that immigration factors in with you as an issue here. But not being able to have any top end limit or say in it as a nation, while there are issues such as housing and so on, was fairly central to how we ended up in this position to begin with. It's not an unreasonable thing to want as a nation and if the EU had offered more flexibility on that front we wouldn't have been in this position to begin with.

You know fuhrer (English spelling) just means leader or guide don't you? Even though they try to avoid it on its own It's still exists in modern German within some words.

It's funny because the Labour party is literally headed by two Marxists...Yet you want to describe Johnson....a neo liberal conservative with a Churchill fixation as 'fuhrer'.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Hmm. Blindingly obvious. Wants to emphasise more Police and the money he is giving to Scottish farmers.

In reality he is simply replacing the former and giving back what was already due to the latter. And it's notable the Welsh farmers didn't get much, maybe a bit less of an electoral issue with them than the sweaties.

You been begging outside the BOE again bexley

He's a very odd dictator, he wants a democratic election to resolve the impasse meanwhile the opposition who claim to be fighting for our democracy are going all out not to have one.

One more point

I voted to leave...full stop. I think it is the remoaners that have been whining because they lost and can't accept it. Your attitude is typical of remoaners towards those who wanted to leave, pretty pathetic really

Some people just don't get negotiations!!

FoR the record (apologies if I.am the Xth person to say this) but:
Corbyn refuses election after screaming for one = hypocrite
Johnson demands election having stated in his leadership campaign that now is the worst time for an election = clever tactics
I'm no corbinista but...

No Willo, your powers only increase over time. We can all bear witness to that.

The Referendum Act was voted for and approved by members of all parties. It was subject to the same procedure as any other Act.

The public would be no better informed now than they were then. They continue to be exposed to a tsunami of lies, fearmongering and half truths. Nothing has changed. The idea that Parliament is any less subject to political and financial pressures is very funny.