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 chris123  hove actually 09 Sep 19 5.13pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
In truth, it's mostly JD these days. Lite (coin).
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| Stirlingsays 09 Sep 19 5.14pm |
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Originally posted by chris123
Lite (coin). Too smart for me fella.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| silvertop Portishead 09 Sep 19 5.43pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Probably all of them Iranians no?
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| silvertop Portishead 09 Sep 19 5.49pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Got bored. For balance, The remainers pin up boy is hardly fairing much better. Reality check for both sides. i.e. there is no obvious solution, unless you're a partisan hack. I'm still keeping my powder dry though. Johnson doing what he does best is simply flavour of the month. And I've always despised him. Priti Patel is also a complete moron, who should not be anywhere near the front bench based on her shady history. I'm possibly a bit thick but who is the remainers poster boy?
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cryrst  The garden of England 09 Sep 19 7.01pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Government: We will obey the law. Some bloke: Ok, the law says you will have to ask for an extension. Government: We wont ask for an extension. Some bloke: How can you obey the law, but NOT ask for an extension, when the law mandates an extension being asked for. Government: Errrr...we are trying to look for sneaky loopholes in the bill. Some bloke: You are tits. Being a Democrat you know all about loopies.
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| cryrst The garden of England 09 Sep 19 7.06pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
Wow. Go tux go
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| Midlands Eagle 09 Sep 19 7.21pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Iranians no? Still come from the EU though as they don't come here directly from Iran
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Sep 19 7.31pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Still come from the EU though as they don't come here directly from Iran Entirely against the Dublin agreement. France openly encourages people to go to Britain by purposely not registering them to allow them to move on. Manipulates their own disgraceful figures.
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Sep 19 7.39pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The left have a majority in the commons yet they have zero mandate from the people for it. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Sep 2019 7.38pm) Apparently we don't know what's good for us. They must know best.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 09 Sep 19 7.54pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Apparently we don't know what's good for us. They must know best. Not the issue. We all have opinions. The electorate express their's on who they want to represent them at a GE. Once done those they choose express their's in Parliament. That's the mandate the people give them. Most MP's are neither really left, or right. By far the bulk of them are in the middle and just lean a little in one direction. There is much more that the centre right of the Tory Party, the Lib Dems, the SNP and the centre left of the Labour Party have in common with each other than they do with their extreme wings. All are democrats who believe in the supremacy of Parliament. Any Party which drifts too far from the centre will never command a majority on it's own. That's as true of the Tories under Johnson as it is of Labour under Corbyn. Deselecting moderates in the name of purging unwelcome views would be committing political suicide. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (09 Sep 2019 7.54pm)
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| silvertop Portishead 09 Sep 19 8.42pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Still come from the EU though as they don't come here directly from Iran But yet my post was in connection with leaving the EU and the control of economic migrants from Latvia etc. Membership or otherwise will have zero impact on no EU boat people who may in any event claim asylum.
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| silvertop Portishead 09 Sep 19 8.48pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The left have a majority in the commons yet they have zero mandate from the people for it. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Sep 2019 7.38pm) Rather depends on how you define left. To many posters on here that definItion appears to include anyone east of those advocating a picture of Hitler on the side of an ICBM.
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Teddy Eagle  09 Sep 19 8.51pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Not the issue. We all have opinions. The electorate express their's on who they want to represent them at a GE. Once done those they choose express their's in Parliament. That's the mandate the people give them. Most MP's are neither really left, or right. By far the bulk of them are in the middle and just lean a little in one direction. There is much more that the centre right of the Tory Party, the Lib Dems, the SNP and the centre left of the Labour Party have in common with each other than they do with their extreme wings. All are democrats who believe in the supremacy of Parliament. Any Party which drifts too far from the centre will never command a majority on it's own. That's as true of the Tories under Johnson as it is of Labour under Corbyn. Deselecting moderates in the name of purging unwelcome views would be committing political suicide. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (09 Sep 2019 7.54pm) We are truly blessed to live in an era with such titans of political life. God forbid our future were to be left in the hands of non-entities, lightweights and self interested morons,
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| Stirlingsays 09 Sep 19 9.40pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Rather depends on how you define left. To many posters on here that definItion appears to include anyone east of those advocating a picture of Hitler on the side of an ICBM. I think we can define the modern day Labour party as left don't you think? And it's them who now hold the majority. Zero mandate....Yet they are passing laws. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Sep 2019 9.41pm)
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| silvertop Portishead 09 Sep 19 9.47pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I think we can define the modern day Labour party as left don't you think? And it's them who now hold the majority. Zero mandate....Yet they are passing laws. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Sep 2019 9.41pm) Do they have more numbers than the Tories? If so you can hardly blame them for how they arrived at that.
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| Stirlingsays 09 Sep 19 9.52pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Do they have more numbers than the Tories? If so you can hardly blame them for how they arrived at that. The left do collectively yes....No I don't blame them for the numbers. However, that doesn't change the fact that they have zero mandate. This situation is untenable democratically. We need an election date....and this is a separate issue from Brexit, whether we have left or not.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 10 Sep 19 7.45am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Not the issue. We all have opinions. The electorate express their's on who they want to represent them at a GE. Once done those they choose express their's in Parliament. That's the mandate the people give them. Most MP's are neither really left, or right. By far the bulk of them are in the middle and just lean a little in one direction. There is much more that the centre right of the Tory Party, the Lib Dems, the SNP and the centre left of the Labour Party have in common with each other than they do with their extreme wings. All are democrats who believe in the supremacy of Parliament. Any Party which drifts too far from the centre will never command a majority on it's own. That's as true of the Tories under Johnson as it is of Labour under Corbyn. Deselecting moderates in the name of purging unwelcome views would be committing political suicide. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (09 Sep 2019 7.54pm) You forget that these "moderates" are wilfully ignoring the official policy of the party which is currently endorsed by the majority of the members. They had an opportunity before we Brexit to state their case at the Conservative Party conference which is precisely the forum for changing policy. Instead they chose to oppose their own party / government at a time when it was not necessary as crunch time will be mid October. Yet another example of losers refusing to respect majority wishes. They could have supported the government whilst arguing for a change in policy they didn't so they must pay the price. I am sure they would be allowed back on that basis. Argue your case but respect the majority decision by all means continue to argue your case but you have to respect the key policy of your party.
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| Teddy Eagle 10 Sep 19 8.53am |
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