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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 06 Apr 19 11.50pm
Originally posted by Maine Eagle Anyone interested in learning more about the great Trump tax fiasco, see here: [Link] It is apparently a simple matter of law, but given this is America it will likely be years in the system and end up in the Supreme court. I do so wonder what it is in Trump's tax returns that he so desperately wants to keep a secret. Smells a bit fishy, eh. If your finances/taxes are above board, why refuse to release them exactly? That doesnt do much to show his detractors that he is not a crook. I am often mystified why he doesn't allow this. That said I'd also like to see Nancy Pelosi's tax returns as well, someone who's earning approx 200K a year & is worth in the region of 150/200 M has to be a shady scumbag as well. Pro USA & Israel

Jimenez

SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 06 Apr 19 11.50pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Anyone interested in learning more about the great Trump tax fiasco, see here:

[Link]

It is apparently a simple matter of law, but given this is America it will likely be years in the system and end up in the Supreme court.

I do so wonder what it is in Trump's tax returns that he so desperately wants to keep a secret. Smells a bit fishy, eh.

If your finances/taxes are above board, why refuse to release them exactly?

That doesnt do much to show his detractors that he is not a crook.

I am often mystified why he doesn't allow this. That said I'd also like to see Nancy Pelosi's tax returns as well, someone who's earning approx 200K a year & is worth in the region of 150/200 M has to be a shady scumbag as well.

Pro USA & Israel

Maine Eagle USA 07 Apr 19 3.18pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger As I thought. You are just another sore loser liberal who wants to stamp his feet and throw his toys around because Hillary lost. You think Trump is dirty. Can he be any lower than the level that your side is prepared to stoop to? Sat through the whole thing then, Hrolf? Let’s see his taxes if he’s not dirty. I do indeed believe he is as bent as a 9 bob note. I was no huge fan if Hillary but compared to Trump I would take pretty much anyone. What is your opinion on why he is the first president since Nixon to not show his tax returns? Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Maine Eagle

USA 07 Apr 19 3.18pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

As I thought.

You are just another sore loser liberal who wants to stamp his feet and throw his toys around because Hillary lost.

You think Trump is dirty.

Can he be any lower than the level that your side is prepared to stoop to?

Sat through the whole thing then, Hrolf?

Let’s see his taxes if he’s not dirty. I do indeed believe he is as bent as a 9 bob note.

I was no huge fan if Hillary but compared to Trump I would take pretty much anyone.

What is your opinion on why he is the first president since Nixon to not show his tax returns?

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Teddy Eagle 07 Apr 19 3.38pm
Originally posted by Maine Eagle Sat through the whole thing then, Hrolf? Let’s see his taxes if he’s not dirty. I do indeed believe he is as bent as a 9 bob note. I was no huge fan if Hillary but compared to Trump I would take pretty much anyone. What is your opinion on why he is the first president since Nixon to not show his tax returns? Is there any legal requirement for him to show them?

Teddy Eagle

07 Apr 19 3.38pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Sat through the whole thing then, Hrolf?

Let’s see his taxes if he’s not dirty. I do indeed believe he is as bent as a 9 bob note.

I was no huge fan if Hillary but compared to Trump I would take pretty much anyone.

What is your opinion on why he is the first president since Nixon to not show his tax returns?

Is there any legal requirement for him to show them?

Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 07 Apr 19 4.23pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Is there any legal requirement for him to show them? NO... Pro USA & Israel

Jimenez

SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 07 Apr 19 4.23pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Is there any legal requirement for him to show them?

NO...

Pro USA & Israel

Teddy Eagle 07 Apr 19 9.24pm
Originally posted by Jimenez NO... So the obvious follow up is why should he?

Teddy Eagle

07 Apr 19 9.24pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

NO...

So the obvious follow up is why should he?

Teddy Eagle 07 Apr 19 11.14pm
Originally posted by Maine Eagle Anyone interested in learning more about the great Trump tax fiasco, see here: [Link] It is apparently a simple matter of law, but given this is America it will likely be years in the system and end up in the Supreme court. I do so wonder what it is in Trump's tax returns that he so desperately wants to keep a secret. Smells a bit fishy, eh. If your finances/taxes are above board, why refuse to release them exactly? That doesnt do much to show his detractors that he is not a crook. Two questions, as someone who lies in America how has Trump affected you personally? Do you think Trump Derangement Syndrome is real?

Teddy Eagle

07 Apr 19 11.14pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Anyone interested in learning more about the great Trump tax fiasco, see here:

[Link]

It is apparently a simple matter of law, but given this is America it will likely be years in the system and end up in the Supreme court.

I do so wonder what it is in Trump's tax returns that he so desperately wants to keep a secret. Smells a bit fishy, eh.

If your finances/taxes are above board, why refuse to release them exactly?

That doesnt do much to show his detractors that he is not a crook.

Two questions, as someone who lies in America how has Trump affected you personally?
Do you think Trump Derangement Syndrome is real?

NickinOX Sailing country. 08 Apr 19 1.19am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Two questions, as someone who lies in America how has Trump affected you personally? Do you think Trump Derangement Syndrome is real? It's as real as Hillary derangement syndrome. I've seen people of left and right rant about Trump and Hillary respectively, in a way they do with no other politicians. If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

NickinOX

Sailing country. 08 Apr 19 1.19am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Two questions, as someone who lies in America how has Trump affected you personally?
Do you think Trump Derangement Syndrome is real?

It's as real as Hillary derangement syndrome.

I've seen people of left and right rant about Trump and Hillary respectively, in a way they do with no other politicians.

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

Stirlingsays 08 Apr 19 2.02am
Originally posted by NickinOX It's as real as Hillary derangement syndrome. I've seen people of left and right rant about Trump and Hillary respectively, in a way they do with no other politicians. It's a reasonable criticism. I think that when it comes to criticising political leaders whenever the focus of the debate continually moves into the personal then the credibility of the criticism is lost to the rational observer. It's true of criticism of any politician or individual, whether I'm generally for them or not. I don't think it's wrong to point out where a politician lies or is hypocritical or immoral even. However, when you look at the hyper emotional polemics on frequent display regarding Trump it's going to attract its own form of criticism. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

08 Apr 19 2.02am

Originally posted by NickinOX

It's as real as Hillary derangement syndrome.

I've seen people of left and right rant about Trump and Hillary respectively, in a way they do with no other politicians.

It's a reasonable criticism.

I think that when it comes to criticising political leaders whenever the focus of the debate continually moves into the personal then the credibility of the criticism is lost to the rational observer.

It's true of criticism of any politician or individual, whether I'm generally for them or not.

I don't think it's wrong to point out where a politician lies or is hypocritical or immoral even. However, when you look at the hyper emotional polemics on frequent display regarding Trump it's going to attract its own form of criticism.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Teddy Eagle 08 Apr 19 4.59am
Thatcher drew a lot of personal criticism. Maybe in London we weren’t exposed to the same effects of her policies but she’s still vilified in some areas. Even at that it seems the hatred of Trump is on a different level. Could just be that social media brings it more into the open.

Teddy Eagle

08 Apr 19 4.59am

Thatcher drew a lot of personal criticism. Maybe in London we weren’t exposed to the same effects of her policies but she’s still vilified in some areas. Even at that it seems the hatred of Trump is on a different level. Could just be that social media brings it more into the open.

Penge Eagle Beckenham 08 Apr 19 4.37pm
Guardian article: 'The booming business for smuggling people to the US' [Link] Build the wall.

Penge Eagle

Beckenham 08 Apr 19 4.37pm

Guardian article: 'The booming business for smuggling people to the US' [Link]

Build the wall.

Stirlingsays 08 Apr 19 4.45pm
Originally posted by Penge Eagle Guardian article: 'The booming business for smuggling people to the US' [Link] Build the wall. Sure build the wall....but it's forty years too late. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

08 Apr 19 4.45pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Guardian article: 'The booming business for smuggling people to the US' [Link]

Build the wall.

Sure build the wall....but it's forty years too late.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

steeleye20 Croydon 08 Apr 19 5.30pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Sure build the wall....but it's forty years too late. Do agree. Can't they think of anything else?

steeleye20

Croydon 08 Apr 19 5.30pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Sure build the wall....but it's forty years too late.

Do agree.

Can't they think of anything else?

Stirlingsays 08 Apr 19 5.36pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Do agree. Can't they think of anything else? It's throwing red meat to his base. But personally I think he should be far more interested in the economy and ensuring that tech companies don't turn the Internet into a corporate land grab and free speech graveyard....but sure, building the wall was a campaign promise that he would be unwise to break with his base....but it only delays. Other than that.....just keep trolling his way through to the next election......oh and if he can somehow bag another p* star and have himself another #metoo scandal that would be fun as well. Preferably a Russian p* star. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Apr 2019 5.50pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

08 Apr 19 5.36pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Do agree.

Can't they think of anything else?

It's throwing red meat to his base.

But personally I think he should be far more interested in the economy and ensuring that tech companies don't turn the Internet into a corporate land grab and free speech graveyard....but sure, building the wall was a campaign promise that he would be unwise to break with his base....but it only delays.

Other than that.....just keep trolling his way through to the next election......oh and if he can somehow bag another p*** star and have himself another #metoo scandal that would be fun as well.

Preferably a Russian p*** star.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Apr 2019 5.50pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Maine Eagle USA 08 Apr 19 7.16pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Two questions, as someone who lies in America how has Trump affected you personally? Do you think Trump Derangement Syndrome is real? Reminds me of a question about being in the EU. Trump denies climate change, this does and will affect many many people in a very negative way, for years to come. Trump basically gave Putin a pass on election interference, that affects everyone here and undermines democracy. His verbal diarrhea and chaotic leadership dominates the news cycle, pretty annoying. Friends of mine had a visa delayed to come here due to his government shutdown, which meant we all had to change our plans. This also closes national parks, govt offices and museums and such, not to mention delaying people’s tax returns this year, including mine. TDS is real but it is down to Trump, not the person displaying the symptoms. He is a train wreck of a president, the worst there ever was or ever will be. Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Maine Eagle

USA 08 Apr 19 7.16pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Two questions, as someone who lies in America how has Trump affected you personally?
Do you think Trump Derangement Syndrome is real?

Reminds me of a question about being in the EU.

Trump denies climate change, this does and will affect many many people in a very negative way, for years to come.

Trump basically gave Putin a pass on election interference, that affects everyone here and undermines democracy.

His verbal diarrhea and chaotic leadership dominates the news cycle, pretty annoying.

Friends of mine had a visa delayed to come here due to his government shutdown, which meant we all had to change our plans. This also closes national parks, govt offices and museums and such, not to mention delaying people’s tax returns this year, including mine.

TDS is real but it is down to Trump, not the person displaying the symptoms. He is a train wreck of a president, the worst there ever was or ever will be.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Badadmcmad Leeds 08 Apr 19 7.26pm
A friend pointed me to a book called the Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein. I have just finished it and also watched the documentary on Youtube: [Link] I cannot recommend it highly enough as it is an exceptional narrative of the past 50 years of politics and sheds a lot of light on the actions of the main political actors of that and this period. It's observations and assertions are readily applied to a lot of the agendas we see today from Trumps Wall to Brexit, Israel and continuing tensions around the world. I implore everyone to at least watch the documentary which is only an hour and a bit. It will give you another perspective with which to test the actions of the current leaders. I also see some comments about Thatcher in this thread. I am of an age where I was well aware of her, but too young to appreciate her actions. Now, I see her and her methods and objectives in a much more polarised light. Please watch as it is an important piece of work despite it being over a decade old. I would love to hear what others think of it. Edited by Badadmcmad (08 Apr 2019 7.27pm) D'oh!

Badadmcmad

Leeds 08 Apr 19 7.26pm

A friend pointed me to a book called the Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein. I have just finished it and also watched the documentary on Youtube:
[Link]

I cannot recommend it highly enough as it is an exceptional narrative of the past 50 years of politics and sheds a lot of light on the actions of the main political actors of that and this period.

It's observations and assertions are readily applied to a lot of the agendas we see today from Trumps Wall to Brexit, Israel and continuing tensions around the world.

I implore everyone to at least watch the documentary which is only an hour and a bit. It will give you another perspective with which to test the actions of the current leaders.

I also see some comments about Thatcher in this thread. I am of an age where I was well aware of her, but too young to appreciate her actions. Now, I see her and her methods and objectives in a much more polarised light.

Please watch as it is an important piece of work despite it being over a decade old. I would love to hear what others think of it.

Edited by Badadmcmad (08 Apr 2019 7.27pm)

D'oh!

Stirlingsays 08 Apr 19 7.27pm
Originally posted by Maine Eagle Reminds me of a question about being in the EU. Trump denies climate change, this does and will affect many many people in a very negative way, for years to come. Trump denying whatever won't make the slightest difference to anything. In the meantime there have recently been some very interesting technological developments. Originally posted by Maine Eagle Trump basically gave Putin a pass on election interference, that affects everyone here and undermines democracy. Not sure you can talk too much over 'undermining democracy' when you have been fighting against leaving the EU after a majority voted for it.....That's pretty much the definition of it by resisting what the majority voted for. Originally posted by Maine Eagle His verbal diarrhea and chaotic leadership dominates the news cycle, pretty annoying. Fun for me. Originally posted by Maine Eagle Friends of mine had a visa delayed to come here due to his government shutdown, which meant we all had to change our plans. This also closes national parks, govt offices and museums and such, not to mention delaying people’s tax returns this year, including mine. TDS is real but it is down to Trump, not the person displaying the symptoms. He is a train wreck of a president, the worst there ever was or ever will be. Have you turned into Mystic Meg or something? He has a good chance of re-election and is at around 44/43 percent so if he's the worst president ever then that's quite a difference between how you perceive things and the majority outside your bubble perceive them. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Apr 2019 7.29pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

08 Apr 19 7.27pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Reminds me of a question about being in the EU.

Trump denies climate change, this does and will affect many many people in a very negative way, for years to come.

Trump denying whatever won't make the slightest difference to anything. In the meantime there have recently been some very interesting technological developments.

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Trump basically gave Putin a pass on election interference, that affects everyone here and undermines democracy.

Not sure you can talk too much over 'undermining democracy' when you have been fighting against leaving the EU after a majority voted for it.....That's pretty much the definition of it by resisting what the majority voted for.

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

His verbal diarrhea and chaotic leadership dominates the news cycle, pretty annoying.

Fun for me.

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

TDS is real but it is down to Trump, not the person displaying the symptoms. He is a train wreck of a president, the worst there ever was or ever will be.

Have you turned into Mystic Meg or something?

He has a good chance of re-election and is at around 44/43 percent so if he's the worst president ever then that's quite a difference between how you perceive things and the majority outside your bubble perceive them.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Apr 2019 7.29pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Teddy Eagle 08 Apr 19 7.30pm
Originally posted by Maine Eagle Reminds me of a question about being in the EU. Trump denies climate change, this does and will affect many many people in a very negative way, for years to come. Trump basically gave Putin a pass on election interference, that affects everyone here and undermines democracy. His verbal diarrhea and chaotic leadership dominates the news cycle, pretty annoying. Friends of mine had a visa delayed to come here due to his government shutdown, which meant we all had to change our plans. This also closes national parks, govt offices and museums and such, not to mention delaying people’s tax returns this year, including mine. TDS is real but it is down to Trump, not the person displaying the symptoms. He is a train wreck of a president, the worst there ever was or ever will be. And yet there’s every chance he’ll win next time as well. That’s something to look forward to.

Teddy Eagle

08 Apr 19 7.30pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Reminds me of a question about being in the EU.

Trump denies climate change, this does and will affect many many people in a very negative way, for years to come.

Trump basically gave Putin a pass on election interference, that affects everyone here and undermines democracy.

His verbal diarrhea and chaotic leadership dominates the news cycle, pretty annoying.

TDS is real but it is down to Trump, not the person displaying the symptoms. He is a train wreck of a president, the worst there ever was or ever will be.

And yet there’s every chance he’ll win next time as well. That’s something to look forward to.

Hrolf The Ganger 08 Apr 19 7.54pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle And yet there’s every chance he’ll win next time as well. That’s something to look forward to. That would be an even more fun night than when he won the first time. Well worth staying up most of the night for.

Hrolf The Ganger

08 Apr 19 7.54pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

And yet there’s every chance he’ll win next time as well. That’s something to look forward to.

That would be an even more fun night than when he won the first time.
Well worth staying up most of the night for.

steeleye20 Croydon 08 Apr 19 8.47pm
Trump should not fail to win again next time. He only has to ensure that he gets less votes than his opponent, again, and it will be a formality.

steeleye20

Croydon 08 Apr 19 8.47pm

Trump should not fail to win again next time.

He only has to ensure that he gets less votes than his opponent, again, and it will be a formality.

Stirlingsays 08 Apr 19 8.48pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Trump should not fail to win again next time. He only has to ensure that he gets less votes than his opponent, again, and it will be a formality. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

08 Apr 19 8.48pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Trump should not fail to win again next time.

He only has to ensure that he gets less votes than his opponent, again, and it will be a formality.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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