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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Reagan did amnesty with the 1986 immigration-reform legislation and then relied on congress to secure the border....which of course to anyone who knows anything is a complete cop out....which didn't happen. He made long lasting bad decisions for the GoP for short term political gain with justifications to his base that turned out to be falsehoods. Trump is selling out future generations on climate change and on electoral reliability by giving Putin a pass. Having unfairly influenced future elections and a polluted planet is the ultimate sell out. And yet you support Trump?
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Trump is selling out future generations on climate change and on electoral reliability by giving Putin a pass. Having unfairly influenced future elections and a polluted planet is the ultimate sell out. And yet you support Trump? Well, I have criticisms of Trump like I have criticisms of all things, including myself. However, he's definitely more my type of politician than Clinton....and when I look at the Democratic party right now I'm looking at a collection of fruitcakes. Let's look at both your main contentions. Once again, I have to state the cast iron fact that nothing Trump does on the climate makes the slightest difference. All your comments on this area are wildly exaggerated. Like I said, and will be proved correct on....it's technology or bust and the US are among the leaders on some exciting developments in taking carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere. And again, this notion that foreign governmental interference in the US elections was something new or note worthy is on one hand....massively exaggerated as to what effect if any it had....and on the second hand a complete hypocrisy. The west, including us and the US have been meddling in foreign elections for decades....Hell, that's one of the reasons Putin is pissed off (though Putin himself is of course a hyprocrite). Hell, you are still hanging onto Russian collusion, and wrote several posts on here defending the idea that something will still come from that.....which is essentially a conspiracy theory at this point. You need to admit to yourself that your dislike for Trump has interfered with your ability to rationalise what he does objectivity.
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Trump is selling out future generations on climate change and on electoral reliability by giving Putin a pass. Having unfairly influenced future elections and a polluted planet is the ultimate sell out. And yet you support Trump? Once more for the hard of thinking, ie me, how did America affect the last five Ice ages?
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Trump is selling out future generations on climate change and on electoral reliability by giving Putin a pass. Having unfairly influenced future elections and a polluted planet is the ultimate sell out. And yet you support Trump? Can you explain in more detail what Trump has done to impact future generations on climate change? Also, can you provide evidence he has given Putin a pass?
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Originally posted by Jimenez
Considering America’s contribution to the war in Europe it would be unthinkable not to do this. It’s not about him - it’s about the sacrifice others made. Of course some people might not see it that way.
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Surprise! Presidential front-runner Bernie Sanders, who is a radical socialist and has spent his entire career decrying the nasty capitalist system, has confirmed that he is in fact a millionaire! He is that same 'immoral' rich person in the 1% he claims we should all hate. [Link]
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
Surprise! Presidential front-runner Bernie Sanders, who is a radical socialist and has spent his entire career decrying the nasty capitalist system, has confirmed that he is in fact a millionaire! He is that same 'immoral' rich person in the 1% he claims we should all hate. [Link]
Then it becomes about meritocracy......It's always about meritocracy in the spheres that they themselves do well in......For everything else.....It's about equality. You can see the difference in words and deeds even on the Labour front bench.....The 'privileged' socialists advocating comprehensive education for others while sending their own children to independent schools. You do get real socialists of course.....but the hypocrisy from that ideological demographic is particularly strong because they base so much of their legitimacy on a sense of supposed morality......which usually when you actually look at the individual themselves is pretty hypocritical. As Orwell wrote, 'All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.' He was of course a socialist himself but also one who was hypercritical of how many fellow socialists viewed it. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Apr 2019 1.08pm)
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hmmm. that's a full house. Edited by pefwin (10 Apr 2019 2.11pm)
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No. 53. Stuck in the tree, The Joker
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
MP Dennis Skinner is the only principled socialist left?
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
MP Dennis Skinner is the only principled socialist left? Pretty much....I should think his memoirs will probably be pretty interesting.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Well, I have criticisms of Trump like I have criticisms of all things, including myself. However, he's definitely more my type of politician than Clinton....and when I look at the Democratic party right now I'm looking at a collection of fruitcakes. Let's look at both your main contentions. Once again, I have to state the cast iron fact that nothing Trump does on the climate makes the slightest difference. All your comments on this area are wildly exaggerated. Like I said, and will be proved correct on....it's technology or bust and the US are among the leaders on some exciting developments in taking carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere. And again, this notion that foreign governmental interference in the US elections was something new or note worthy is on one hand....massively exaggerated as to what effect if any it had....and on the second hand a complete hypocrisy. The west, including us and the US have been meddling in foreign elections for decades....Hell, that's one of the reasons Putin is pissed off (though Putin himself is of course a hyprocrite). Hell, you are still hanging onto Russian collusion, and wrote several posts on here defending the idea that something will still come from that.....which is essentially a conspiracy theory at this point. You need to admit to yourself that your dislike for Trump has interfered with your ability to rationalise what he does objectivity.
I havent noticed many criticisms Why do you guys keep bringing up the clintons. You see it on youtube, you see it on Fox, why are the clintons part of the Trump discussion time and again? You believe nothing Trump does on climate will make a difference? You are dead wrong there, Stirlingsays. Trump has tried to undermine the EPA and rollback effective Obama era efforts to fight climate change. Trump has decided to withdraw from the Paris Climate agreement. Trump thinks global warming is a hoax invented by the Chinese to attack the US manufacturing industry. Russian meddling in 2016 was widely considered the most effective and widespread campaign ever waged in terms of social media manipulation.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The democrats should be embracing and learning from people like Andrew Yang.....Instead we get Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Nancy Pelosi. Pelosi is a skilled politican who rungs rings around Trump time and again. AOC has some extreme views for sure, but so does the freedom caucus. Picking out 1 or 2 people here and there wont reflect well on the GOP when you have Steve King and.........Donald Trump running around.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
He represents everything they hate. They regard him as a symbol of the dysfunctional past whereas I regard their attitudes as far more dysfunctional and harmful than his. Instinctively Trump gains a huge electional following that's clearly a counterpoint to his clearly quite unpleasant personality.....because people, both men and women know where they are with him. He is the beginning of a white male identitrian vote.....essentially because they have no one else to vote for. Andrew Yang is quite interesting....even though he's a democrat he's clearly not a fruitcake nor a player of victim politics and has lots of interesting ideas on how to move ahead into the modern age. In the short to mid term 5-10 years I see Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson making big moves in the GoP....because that's how politics moves in the modern age.....and maybe....god forbid Ben Shapiro. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Apr 2019 1.10pm) That is the challenge the dems must tackle. Trump's base will die with him on some hill somewhere, but the moderate republicans, independants, and educated suburbanites showed their views during the midterms were Trump suffered historic losses. They will decide 2020. Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson. F8ck me that is depressing. Absolute pair of c&&&s of the highest order. Tucker carslon is a terminal c&&&. He has a case which cannot be cured. Kanye may have something to say when Candace sits in the Oval office. Do you approve of her due to BLEXIT, Stirlingsays? I will read up on Yang, not familiar.
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Pelosi is a skilled politican who rungs rings around Trump time and again. She's as dim as a bag of spanners. You might think she's something but I've seen more impressive tea ladies.
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