Sorry mate but this is total bollox.

He's made absolutely barmy policy suggestions. His latest one is to provide high speed broadband for all, how on earth is he going to afford that?

He makes promise after promise about how the world is going to be rosy for everyone without any means of paying for it. He'd never cut welfare, keep increasing spending on the NHS, provide free education for everyone, nationalise railways, nationalise energy... All nice ideas that are completely unaffordable.

His main scheme seems to be "clamping down on tax avoidance"...

Two things:

1) Does he not think the Chancellor would have tried this already??? It's hardly in his interests to allow companies not to pay tax

2) Good luck getting businesses to stop avoiding taxes by putting business taxes up.

He's a moron. And a bit of a t*** from what I can see in interviews. Constantly looks ruffled and irritated by even the slightest interrogation. He's completely unfit to run his own party, as has been demonstrated, and obviously unfit to run the country. That's why the PLP want rid. He doesn't represent what the country wants at all, which is why left wing candidates will ALWAYS lose general elections. It's called democracy.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

I think somebody on here is a secret Corbynista but is too ashamed to publicly admit it.

Now... what was that quote from the Bard?

.... the lady doth protest too much!

You don't seem to want to hear a word against anyone attacking his policies even though from my viewpoint they are the same old Labour tried and trusted soundbites that might appeal to the "hardworking" voters and defeat the nasty Tories.

But then I have no proof of this - relying on my anecdotal evidence again (to my shame) knowing that you can only accept forensically prepared and examined evidence that can be proven in a court of law despite this being an informal football fans forum where peoples opinions count for very little in real life and it's supposed to be for fun.

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I didn't say I didn't like them.

Read my posts again love

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Fair enough. You can chose to believe whatever you want. Like we agreed before I can't stop you. You're wrong though just for clarity.

I am happy for you to actually attack his policies (or for WAGU to do so).

I actually think nationalisation of the railways and energy is barmy. It is completely uncosted and probably is unaffordable. It would also be almost impossible to unravel ourselves from the various contracts (although Brexit makes it easier given it changes rules on state aid).

Provision of universal high speed broadband to all but the most remote areas I don't think is barmy. And the current government don't either (although USO was actually introduced under the coalition when I checked).

Nor have I said I support higher welfare spending or higher spending on the NHS or free education or reducing university tuition fees.

Read my posts again love to quote you to nick just now (although I realise that comes across as a little aggressive, not intended to really).

I don't need any forensic proof. I can supply evidence that his policies don't make him unelectable, but no-one has provided anything to the contrary.

What I have said is that I don't think the policies make him unelectable.

Your anecdotal evidence (which as I said I actually don't disagree with the conclusions of) was just further evidence of his unelectability due to appearance and personality. *Any* evidence that his policies make him unelectable I would be happy to see.

If you're taking it seriously and don't think it's fun then don't comment? I don't need to defend or attack Corbyn. Even if I planned to vote for him, he won't win the next election so it is all a bit academic anyway. I would just be interested to see which of his policies are particular vote losers.

There will be evidence at the next general election probably - as it looks like he will win the leadership election and there will be a load of polling in the run up to see what people think of his policies. It should make interesting reading.

And you can make the argument that Tony Blair's abandoning of some of the traditional left wing policies - and him then winning 3 elections - points to them being unelectable policies. I'm happy to debate that.

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Edited by OknotOK (31 Aug 2016 12.29pm)

"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

Personally I just think he's a massive tool.

I appreciate that isn't an intellectually stimulating comment nor does it lend itself to decent debate (which probably makes me a massive tool for posting it) but it's just the way I feel about him.

I think it was the ridiculous virgin train episode that did it. What a tosser. It wasn't even rush hour. Soppy little bumder.

Funny that it's discrimination in any other form.

Optimistic as ever

It's the economy, stupid. If people think your policies are great but unaffordable they will not vote for you. Of course we'd all like free stuff for everything, but it isn't gonna happen and that's why Corbyn will never win.

As I've said, his main policy to raise money is to make companies stop avoiding tax. But to do that he wants to raise business rates. That is plan f*cking stupid and also the complete opposite of the Tories' plan. They want to cut business rates, which is obviously the right thing to do if you want to get businesses to actually pay their tax and also attract them to the country in the first place.

On policies being popular... Hanging is popular. Banning the burqa is popular and would go down a storm with a lot of Tory/UKIP voters, but the Tories aren't daft enough to propose them because it would alienate the centre/centre-left ground that wins elections. The same goes for nationalising railways/energy. People like the sound of it but it's a disastrous strategic policy.

He won't win because of his stupid policies AND because he's a useless dickhead. The two are not mutually exclusive.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

Agreed. The far left always shows its true colours pretty swiftly as soon as it gets a whiff of a pedestal, evil c*nts. Personified in my opinion by John McDonnell who is the devil incarnate.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

Probably true, but then that's never really been a blocker from office. Thatcher and Blair had the same attributes.

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