Well she owned Trump and his ridiculous childish ill advised shutdown.

First she made him look a tit in his own office in front of the press.

Secondly she got the term "Trump shutdown" to stick.

And for the hat trick, Trump had to cave in on his shutdown, without getting a single dollar of the billions he demanded. He ended the shutdown in return for, nothing at all.

He was played, so if she is dim, he has the mental power of a gnat.

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Even Fox, state run as they are, could not spin this anything other than a loss for the President:

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Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Trump has always been in favour of 'clean coal' and keeping jobs since running for president. I know it's a shock, but he's actually keeping with his promise. With other measures, the US is now self-sufficient in energy again.

The Paris Climate agreement is a worthless pile of crap. Virtually every country that signed it has failed to reach its pledges. Yet Trump is the bad guy? [Link]

Meanwhile, 'In 2017, US had largest decline in CO2 emissions in the world for 9th time this century' [Link]

Trump has since reversed his position on climate change in October 2018.

"I think something's happening. Something's changing and it'll change back again. I don't think it's a hoax. But I don't know that it's man-made. I will say this. I don't want to give trillions and trillions of dollars. I don't want to lose millions and millions of jobs. I don't want to be put at a disadvantage. Look, scientists also have a political agenda." [Link]

You have the audacity to criticise Trump over the environment. Yet when AOC launched her Green New Deal, it got ZERO votes in the Senate.

You will not let the Russian thing go – it was all a hoax!

Edited by Penge Eagle (10 Apr 2019 8.16pm)

Speaking of Nancy Pelosi. Fair play to her!

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Edited by Penge Eagle (15 Apr 2019 1.25am)

Well the Mueller report has been released.

Still waiting for that collusion conviction that so many anti Trump ideologs were so openly certain on in this thread.....still waiting.

All those claims and all that bile and hatred.....and what do they have at the end of it? A giant big nothing burger.

They just ate up all the duped nonsense from their click bait media sources and now reality comes and they don't like it.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Oh how the high and mighty have fallen.

I invite you to go back and read the posts in this thread and indeed your own Maine.

The Democrats and 'never Trumpers' wasted tens of millions of tax payer money on nothing. Their media spread endless rounds of 'got him' and media 'exposures' that came to nothing burgers....because they were hyperbole for their viewers and readers. The stuff you are struggling to justify isn't going to lead anywhere. I doubt that the Democrats will even pursue it.

The amount of bile and nonsense and claims that came to nothing are indicative of the bias that this thread started with.

The thread title premise and been entirely proven and while many valid criticisms can be made towards Trump.....unfortunately not many of them were made from within this thread.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I don't like Trump but this investigation was political and has amounted to nothing. The Republicans did the same with Clinton.

I don't doubt that Trump tried to have Mueller fired it was hardly an impartial choice for an investigator. Would Mrs May be happy if the HOP appointed Shami to investigate her?

As for Mueller leaving it open to congress to press charges well after 3 years and millions of dollars he's bottled it. Congress can always impeach a president if they have the votes right or wrong has nothing to do with it.

Mueller has his suspicions but the concept of innocent until proven guilty has gone by the board with Mueller refusing to clear Trump and hinting (he must be guilty I just can't find the evidence)*

I just hope that Congress realizes these special prosecutors are a bad idea because they always go off message as the SP goes on a fishing expedition, there has to be a better and fairer way to do this.

*My words of course but that's how his summing up comes across.

One more point

God ain't that the truth.

Even a lot of his supporters support him more as an opposition to the alternative......and probably because of the anti PC stuff.

'Lying rat'....yeah....Not fit for office? Are you kidding....it's a frigging requirement!

Fair enough....but I hear that 5 million are off of food stamps....I think up to now he's done a lot of economic good.

It's a hell of a lot of money to spend.

Personally while I'm not a fan of the Democrats I think they need to be focusing upon looking sensible and controlled and putting all their backing behind Sanders once he wins the candidacy.

Getting into emotional 'hate wars' with Trump only plays into his hands.

Though a Sanders presidency is far more scary to me than a Trump one.....still, I'd enjoy the ride the same as I try to anyway....We are all just insignificant pawns whichever and whoever is in.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

So you don’t like him. Big deal. What do you expect us to do about the American political situation?

I didn’t vote for it.

I’m not a Trump fan either. It’s just that his antics amuse me and I hope that the transparency of what he does makes people question other politicians. They all lie and dissemble but he does it quite shamelessly. If it comes to it I wasn’t a fan of Clinton’s either - if his wife couldn’t trust him then why should his country?