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Quote Shifty97 at 16 Jun 2015 11.48am
The guy just coppies the words of David Hume, he argues poorly, not a hero in my eyes but he is entitled to his opinion
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Quote Shifty97 at 16 Jun 2015 11.48am
The guy just coppies the words of David Hume, he argues poorly, not a hero in my eyes but he is entitled to his opinion I assume you're talking about the 'God Delusion', which is where I departed company with Dawkins, as I agree it tends towards being critically quite poor in constructing an argument. Quite the opposite of the Blind Watchmaker and the Selfish Gene, the first of which is an excellent defense of evolutionary theory.
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Quote Shifty97 at 16 Jun 2015 11.48am
The guy just coppies the words of David Hume, he argues poorly, not a hero in my eyes but he is entitled to his opinion
Even in the God Delusion, Dawkins main issue isn't with forcing his opinion on others, but the degree to which religion is represented in state, without supporting evidence. Dawkins, for example, would point at Abortion laws in Ireland, and argue that these laws represent Catholic influence, rather than actual government policy, and that in doing so, people are oppressed by the opinions of others, not by knowledge. As such, political parties will co-opt Religion to support their political basis, irrespective of evidence, and as such creates a bias in society by which religious ideas wield power over non-religious people. Somehow along the way Dawkins seems to have managed to sideline a very valid point, into becoming some kind of rent-a-quote attack dog for Atheism and secularism, probably because he's good 'interview'. But he did have a very valid point about the role of religion in society, and influence.
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Quote TheJudge at 16 Jun 2015 8.59am
I don't want to upset Superfly again so I will just have you imagine me sitting in front of my laptop with a " I'm glad he doesn't live next door to me" look on my face.
Judge, you can pretty much say what you like but you can't insult other users. Have a read through the forum rules if you need clarification. Apologies Superfly. There is a fine line and I will endeavor not to cross it.
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| TheJudge 16 Jun 15 1.40pm |
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I will accept that some are not keen on the God delusion but aside from the book reviews, Dawkins' message is clear and constant. Religion is not the answer and never will be.
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| Superfly The sun always shines in Catford 16 Jun 15 2.25pm |
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Quote TheJudge at 16 Jun 2015 1.35pm
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I don't want to upset Superfly again so I will just have you imagine me sitting in front of my laptop with a " I'm glad he doesn't live next door to me" look on my face.
Judge, you can pretty much say what you like but you can't insult other users. Have a read through the forum rules if you need clarification. Apologies Superfly. There is a fine line and I will endeavor not to cross it.
I agree the BBS is much more lax when it comes to dissing but we try and keep it down (although I'm sure you'll spot discretions occasionaly) - to our credit imo. I think it ruins a thread when it turns all playgroundy. 'Banter' cussing is wholy encouraged though
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Of course, there's a danger of going overboard but as long as the recipient knows it's just leg pulling then there's generally no harm done. Even if you're ribbing someone on a cast iron stone solid dyed in the wool fact like dannyh's olympic gold for shirt lifting| derben 16 Jun 15 2.53pm |
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Quote derben at 16 Jun 2015 2.53pm
Is there an up to date list of mods?
Guntrisoft, Hambo, Moose, Old Chap, PassDribbleShoot, Penge Eagle, SloveniaDave
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Guntrisoft, Hambo, Moose, Old Chap, PassDribbleShoot, Penge Eagle, SloveniaDave But you are not on it?
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Guntrisoft, Hambo, Moose, Old Chap, PassDribbleShoot, Penge Eagle, SloveniaDave But you are not on it?
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Guntrisoft, Hambo, Moose, Old Chap, PassDribbleShoot, Penge Eagle, SloveniaDave But you are not on it?
I got that impression from your posts on this thread. But now I know you are not, I'll feel free to take the mick.
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Quote derben at 16 Jun 2015 3.28pm
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Quote derben at 16 Jun 2015 2.53pm
Is there an up to date list of mods?
Guntrisoft, Hambo, Moose, Old Chap, PassDribbleShoot, Penge Eagle, SloveniaDave But you are not on it?
I got that impression from your posts on this thread. But now I know you are not, I'll feel free to take the mick.
You take the mick all you like Del boy
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