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chateauferret 25 Jan 17 12.17am
Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE Take a look at @ChrisPalacefc's Tweet: If I were paid what these guys get paid I'd be f***ed if I was going to sleep in a tent ============ The Ferret ============

chateauferret

25 Jan 17 12.17am

Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE

Take a look at @ChrisPalacefc's Tweet:

If I were paid what these guys get paid I'd be f***ed if I was going to sleep in a tent

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The Ferret
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 25 Jan 17 12.23am
Originally posted by chateauferret If I were paid what these guys get paid I'd be f*ed if I was going to sleep in a tent It's a Croydon council B&B behind the cherry trees, usually used by the council or Lunar House over British citizens. COYP**

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 25 Jan 17 12.23am

Originally posted by chateauferret

If I were paid what these guys get paid I'd be f***ed if I was going to sleep in a tent

It's a Croydon council B&B behind the cherry trees, usually used by the council or Lunar House over British citizens.

COYP

MackemKTF sunderland 25 Jan 17 3.32am
Sunderland fan in peace here. I'm in the minority of Mackems who would say PVA will be a big miss to us, if/when he joins your club. I think it's well documented even on this thread that defending isn't his strong point. He often does get caught out of position... But you have to remember that ever since PVA came to us, we've been fighting relegation. None of our defenders have shined! Add to that, PVA has been encouraged by all of our managers to get forward, as he's one of the few attacking threats that we have. He is very quick, good at moving the ball forward, and is always looking to get a shot away. After Defoe, he is as likely as anyone to score for us or create a goal. It's true that his positional awareness did improve under Big Sam mind. I'd expect him to continue for him, where he left off at the end of last season. 9mill I would say is about right if he captures the form from last season again. As a Sunderland fan I'll be sorry to see him go, but the lights are finally being turned off on our 10 years of stinking out the premier league. Our best players will leave, PVA is one of them no matter what crap our message boards spout about driving him here. Good luck for the rest of the season (4th Feb aside).

MackemKTF

sunderland 25 Jan 17 3.32am

Sunderland fan in peace here. I'm in the minority of Mackems who would say PVA will be a big miss to us, if/when he joins your club. I think it's well documented even on this thread that defending isn't his strong point. He often does get caught out of position...

But you have to remember that ever since PVA came to us, we've been fighting relegation. None of our defenders have shined! Add to that, PVA has been encouraged by all of our managers to get forward, as he's one of the few attacking threats that we have. He is very quick, good at moving the ball forward, and is always looking to get a shot away. After Defoe, he is as likely as anyone to score for us or create a goal.

It's true that his positional awareness did improve under Big Sam mind. I'd expect him to continue for him, where he left off at the end of last season.

9mill I would say is about right if he captures the form from last season again. As a Sunderland fan I'll be sorry to see him go, but the lights are finally being turned off on our 10 years of stinking out the premier league. Our best players will leave, PVA is one of them no matter what crap our message boards spout about driving him here.

Good luck for the rest of the season (4th Feb aside).

briandavis Udon Thani 25 Jan 17 4.18am
Wiki, albeit temporarily, showed him as signed already, then withdrew it! I don't know enough about the player. But, Sunderland often seems to be struggling and I'm not sure whether to be excited about signing one of their defenders to supposedly strengthen Palace.

briandavis

Udon Thani 25 Jan 17 4.18am

Wiki, albeit temporarily, showed him as signed already, then withdrew it!
I don't know enough about the player. But, Sunderland often seems to be struggling and I'm not sure whether to be excited about signing one of their defenders to supposedly strengthen Palace.

Petereagle Brockley 25 Jan 17 5.17am
Originally posted by MackemKTF Sunderland fan in peace here. I'm in the minority of Mackems who would say PVA will be a big miss to us, if/when he joins your club. I think it's well documented even on this thread that defending isn't his strong point. He often does get caught out of position... But you have to remember that ever since PVA came to us, we've been fighting relegation. None of our defenders have shined! Add to that, PVA has been encouraged by all of our managers to get forward, as he's one of the few attacking threats that we have. He is very quick, good at moving the ball forward, and is always looking to get a shot away. After Defoe, he is as likely as anyone to score for us or create a goal. It's true that his positional awareness did improve under Big Sam mind. I'd expect him to continue for him, where he left off at the end of last season. 9mill I would say is about right if he captures the form from last season again. As a Sunderland fan I'll be sorry to see him go, but the lights are finally being turned off on our 10 years of stinking out the premier league. Our best players will leave, PVA is one of them no matter what crap our message boards spout about driving him here. Good luck for the rest of the season (4th Feb aside). Many thanks that is very useful. PVA would have Sclupp ahead of him down the left flank, so maybe he wouldnt be asked to bomb forward quite so much?

Petereagle

Brockley 25 Jan 17 5.17am

Originally posted by MackemKTF

It's true that his positional awareness did improve under Big Sam mind. I'd expect him to continue for him, where he left off at the end of last season.

Good luck for the rest of the season (4th Feb aside).

Many thanks that is very useful. PVA would have Sclupp ahead of him down the left flank, so maybe he wouldnt be asked to bomb forward quite so much?

srh london 25 Jan 17 7.23am
Or adequate cover if he did

srh

london 25 Jan 17 7.23am

Or adequate cover if he did

Midlands Eagle 25 Jan 17 8.03am
Originally posted by briandavis Sunderland often seems to be struggling and I'm not sure whether to be excited about signing one of their defenders to supposedly strengthen Palace. Don't forget that Scott Dann was relegated twice with two different teams and he's worked out just fine

Midlands Eagle

25 Jan 17 8.03am

Originally posted by briandavis

Sunderland often seems to be struggling and I'm not sure whether to be excited about signing one of their defenders to supposedly strengthen Palace.

Don't forget that Scott Dann was relegated twice with two different teams and he's worked out just fine

Petereagle Brockley 25 Jan 17 8.46am
Originally posted by MackemKTF Sunderland fan in peace here. I'm in the minority of Mackems who would say PVA will be a big miss to us, if/when he joins your club. I think it's well documented even on this thread that defending isn't his strong point. He often does get caught out of position... But you have to remember that ever since PVA came to us, we've been fighting relegation. None of our defenders have shined! Add to that, PVA has been encouraged by all of our managers to get forward, as he's one of the few attacking threats that we have. He is very quick, good at moving the ball forward, and is always looking to get a shot away. After Defoe, he is as likely as anyone to score for us or create a goal. It's true that his positional awareness did improve under Big Sam mind. I'd expect him to continue for him, where he left off at the end of last season. 9mill I would say is about right if he captures the form from last season again. As a Sunderland fan I'll be sorry to see him go, but the lights are finally being turned off on our 10 years of stinking out the premier league. Our best players will leave, PVA is one of them no matter what crap our message boards spout about driving him here. Good luck for the rest of the season (4th Feb aside). Great post, many thanks. Not sure what we need is a good attacking LB. what we really need is a good defensive LB [Link]

Petereagle

Brockley 25 Jan 17 8.46am

Originally posted by MackemKTF

It's true that his positional awareness did improve under Big Sam mind. I'd expect him to continue for him, where he left off at the end of last season.

Good luck for the rest of the season (4th Feb aside).

Great post, many thanks. Not sure what we need is a good attacking LB. what we really need is a good defensive LB

[Link]

dp Tunbridge Wells 25 Jan 17 10.59am
Interesting article. It does raise a few questions about Van Aanholt, but two things sprang out for me. 1./ Sam might know how to get the best out of him, whereas David Moyes probably doesn't. 2./ We can't expect to have a left back who scores goals and stops goals at the same time. I suspect that Sam will give him whatever instructions that he wants and expect him to follow them. It is starting to seem like the Schlupp and Van Aanholt partnership will be key to the next few months. If we can find the tactics that gets the best out of both of them, and allows Van Aanholt to get forward on occasions and Schlupp on others then we could be really potent on both the left and right sides. Of course, if Schlupp and Van Aanholt both go bombing forward at every opportunity then we may as well get used to Tuesday evening football again.

Tunbridge Wells 25 Jan 17 10.59am

Interesting article. It does raise a few questions about Van Aanholt, but two things sprang out for me.

1./ Sam might know how to get the best out of him, whereas David Moyes probably doesn't.

2./ We can't expect to have a left back who scores goals and stops goals at the same time.

I suspect that Sam will give him whatever instructions that he wants and expect him to follow them.

It is starting to seem like the Schlupp and Van Aanholt partnership will be key to the next few months. If we can find the tactics that gets the best out of both of them, and allows Van Aanholt to get forward on occasions and Schlupp on others then we could be really potent on both the left and right sides.

Of course, if Schlupp and Van Aanholt both go bombing forward at every opportunity then we may as well get used to Tuesday evening football again.

dg1937 25 Jan 17 11.22am
Nicely balanced post from MackemKTF. I've commented previously that Sam knows what he's getting with PVA and, if he didn't rate him, we wouldn't be buying him. A left side of PVA and Schlupp would have a lot of pace and, let's face it, would be a big improvement on what we've had up to now.

dg1937

25 Jan 17 11.22am

Nicely balanced post from MackemKTF. I've commented previously that Sam knows what he's getting with PVA and, if he didn't rate him, we wouldn't be buying him. A left side of PVA and Schlupp would have a lot of pace and, let's face it, would be a big improvement on what we've had up to now.

Den1923 25 Jan 17 2.53pm
SSN 14:41, PVA deal still on, but Sunderland want 12mil!

Den1923

25 Jan 17 2.53pm

SSN 14:41, PVA deal still on, but Sunderland want 12mil!

Asian Eagle Cebu City 25 Jan 17 3.09pm
PVA DEAL STILL ON Crystal Palace remain in talks with Sunderland over a potential deal for Patrick van Aanholt, according to Sky sources. It is understood that the Black Cats value the player at close to £12m and we are told that Sunderland need to sell before they can buy.

Asian Eagle

Cebu City 25 Jan 17 3.09pm

PVA DEAL STILL ON

Crystal Palace remain in talks with Sunderland over a potential deal for Patrick van Aanholt, according to Sky sources.

It is understood that the Black Cats value the player at close to £12m and we are told that Sunderland need to sell before they can buy.

Asian Eagle Cebu City 25 Jan 17 3.11pm
Gt theses 3 in and we are in for a chance to stay up! Sam Allardyce could be set for reunions with Yann M'Vila and Chris Samba at Crystal Palace.

Asian Eagle

Cebu City 25 Jan 17 3.11pm

Gt theses 3 in and we are in for a chance to stay up!

Sam Allardyce could be set for reunions with Yann M'Vila and Chris Samba at Crystal Palace.

Norwich_Eagle Norwich 25 Jan 17 3.52pm
I just cannot believe we live in a world where Van Aanholt is valued at £12m Surely, Robbie Brady at £9m - which has now been agreed is better value for money? I'm Not A Role Model I'm The Model

Norwich_Eagle

Norwich 25 Jan 17 3.52pm

I just cannot believe we live in a world where Van Aanholt is valued at £12m

Surely, Robbie Brady at £9m - which has now been agreed is better value for money?

I'm Not A Role Model I'm The Model

Nobbybm Dartford 25 Jan 17 3.57pm
Originally posted by Norwich_Eagle I just cannot believe we live in a world where Van Aanholt is valued at £12m Surely, Robbie Brady at £9m - which has now been agreed is better value for money? The Norwich fans I know all say he's very inconsistent. With PVA, Sam knows what he's getting and, I presume, knows that he'll do exactly what Sam wants. Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!

Nobbybm

Dartford 25 Jan 17 3.57pm

Originally posted by Norwich_Eagle

I just cannot believe we live in a world where Van Aanholt is valued at £12m

Surely, Robbie Brady at £9m - which has now been agreed is better value for money?

The Norwich fans I know all say he's very inconsistent. With PVA, Sam knows what he's getting and, I presume, knows that he'll do exactly what Sam wants.

Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!

Norwich_Eagle Norwich 25 Jan 17 4.19pm
Originally posted by Nobbybm The Norwich fans I know all say he's very inconsistent. With PVA, Sam knows what he's getting and, I presume, knows that he'll do exactly what Sam wants. Yeah I have spoken to quite a few around here as well and majority of them say that when he is pushed he is brilliant but he can be lazy if he gets annoyed etc. Hopefully our set-pieces would go through the roof with his delivery though. We might even beat the first man at a corner I'm Not A Role Model I'm The Model

Norwich_Eagle

Norwich 25 Jan 17 4.19pm

Originally posted by Nobbybm

The Norwich fans I know all say he's very inconsistent. With PVA, Sam knows what he's getting and, I presume, knows that he'll do exactly what Sam wants.

Yeah I have spoken to quite a few around here as well and majority of them say that when he is pushed he is brilliant but he can be lazy if he gets annoyed etc.

Hopefully our set-pieces would go through the roof with his delivery though. We might even beat the first man at a corner

I'm Not A Role Model I'm The Model

Chillo Hampshire 25 Jan 17 4.39pm
Originally posted by Norwich_Eagle Yeah I have spoken to quite a few around here as well and majority of them say that when he is pushed he is brilliant but he can be lazy if he gets annoyed etc. Hopefully our set-pieces would go through the roof with his delivery though. We might even beat the first man at a corner Steady, now!

Chillo

Hampshire 25 Jan 17 4.39pm

Originally posted by Norwich_Eagle

Yeah I have spoken to quite a few around here as well and majority of them say that when he is pushed he is brilliant but he can be lazy if he gets annoyed etc.

Hopefully our set-pieces would go through the roof with his delivery though. We might even beat the first man at a corner

Steady, now!

exiledeagle123 25 Jan 17 6.44pm
Swansea City's Neil Taylor and Everton's Bryan Oviedo and Darron Gibson have been earmarked as potential Sunderland signings once Patrick van Aanholt joins Crystal Palace, writes the Newcastle Chronicle.

exiledeagle123

25 Jan 17 6.44pm

Swansea City's Neil Taylor and Everton's Bryan Oviedo and Darron Gibson have been earmarked as potential Sunderland signings once Patrick van Aanholt joins Crystal Palace, writes the Newcastle Chronicle.

bashy2 London 25 Jan 17 6.53pm
Thought this deal had been done personal terms were agreed yesterday so what's taking so look long

bashy2

London 25 Jan 17 6.53pm

Thought this deal had been done personal terms were agreed yesterday so what's taking so look long

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Jan 17 7.06pm
Originally posted by exiledeagle123 Swansea City's Neil Taylor and Everton's Bryan Oviedo and Darron Gibson have been earmarked as potential Sunderland signings once Patrick van Aanholt joins Crystal Palace, writes the Newcastle Chronicle. Moyes signed both when he was at Everton. They have been 'fringe'players this season. Oviedo is versatile in that he can play left-back, Left of midfield and on the left-wing. Gibson packs a real hammer of a shot with both feet and likes to shoot from distance.He also has very good set-piece delivery.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Jan 17 7.06pm

Originally posted by exiledeagle123

Swansea City's Neil Taylor and Everton's Bryan Oviedo and Darron Gibson have been earmarked as potential Sunderland signings once Patrick van Aanholt joins Crystal Palace, writes the Newcastle Chronicle.

Moyes signed both when he was at Everton. They have been 'fringe'players this season.

Oviedo is versatile in that he can play left-back, Left of midfield and on the left-wing.
Gibson packs a real hammer of a shot with both feet and likes to shoot from distance.He also has very good set-piece delivery.

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