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VeganPower Flag Chesham 19 May 17 10.22am

Originally posted by Kermit8

Back in the hippy dippy 80's there was very little choice for vegans and vegetarians. Hockney's in Croydon was unique as in the only veggie restaurant heard of in South London but most of its food tasted like cardboard. One vegan i knew lived on rice and potatoes for a while. Not good. She was a bit of a nutter tbf.

But now it is very, very different. All that wonderful new food from home and abroad and all those cookery programmes on tv to whet the creative appetites.

And no red-meat responsible bowel cancer to look forward to.

Not sure if it is an urban myth but there was always a story doing the rounds that there are blobs of hard to digest very old meat squatting long-term in your colon area.

Hackney and Soho are particularly good for vegan food. But any Thai, Chinese or Indian restaurant should be able to serve a tasty vegan meal easily if you take time to ask them.

 


22 years eating a vegan diet. Perfectly happy and healthy on it.

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mezzer Flag Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 19 May 17 10.29am Send a Private Message to mezzer Add mezzer as a friend

Originally posted by VeganPower

and hopefully enjoy a more powerful quality of life along the way

Could you use a hug bro?

Not from someone who smells of sprouts. Thanks though.

 


Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

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AshfordEagle94 Flag Canterbury 19 May 17 11.05am Send a Private Message to AshfordEagle94 Add AshfordEagle94 as a friend

I am vegan, although relatively new to it, I refuse to push my views on to other people as it is their choice. However, to moan about vegans always 'lecturing' you is so stupid when you see it from the other side. I get the same treatment when I tell people I'm vegan, 'lectured' on the health benefits of eating meat or any other reason why I should eat meat or just childish stupid questions. Whether you choose to eat meat or not makes no difference to me but I do think some people do need to be educated on the facts and pros and cons of both in order to make an informed decision

Edited by AshfordEagle94 (19 May 2017 11.17am)

 

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VeganPower Flag Chesham 19 May 17 11.12am

Originally posted by mezzer

Not from someone who smells of sprouts. Thanks though.

Maybe that's why you are not so happy, a bit to choosy where you get your brotherhood from yes?

 


22 years eating a vegan diet. Perfectly happy and healthy on it.

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VeganPower Flag Chesham 19 May 17 11.15am

Originally posted by AshfordEagle94

I am vegan, although relatively new to it, I refuse to push my views on to other people as it is their choice. However, to moan about vegans always 'lecturing' you is so stupid when you see it from the other side. I get the same treatment when I tell people I'm vegan, 'lectured' on the health benefits of eating meat or any other reason why I should eat meat or just childish stupid questions. Whether you choose to eat meat or not makes no difference to me but I do think some people do need to be educated on the facts and pros of cons of both in order to make an informed decision

Edited by AshfordEagle94 (19 May 2017 11.06am)

Yes mate! I'm not the only Vegan Eagle! and I wholeheartedly agree, the food bit about being a vegan is easier than the rubbish people say about the choice of being one.

100% respect for the realness

 


22 years eating a vegan diet. Perfectly happy and healthy on it.

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bubble wrap Flag Carparks in South East London 19 May 17 11.50am

Originally posted by VeganPower

Yes mate! I'm not the only Vegan Eagle! and I wholeheartedly agree, the food bit about being a vegan is easier than the rubbish people say about the choice of being one.

100% respect for the realness

I would wager that Brighton have a lot of Vegan Fans. Probably more than any other club in the UK.

 

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EaglesEaglesEagles Flag 19 May 17 11.53am Send a Private Message to EaglesEaglesEagles Add EaglesEaglesEagles as a friend

I don't wish to stereotype vegans at all but my point is about the charity PETA.

They have a lot of horrific promotional videos that show animal abuse in circumstances which I look to avoid and would want to be banned. Examples like battery chicken farming, 'industrial' milk farms and the like. PETA generalise all consumption animals or animal products as being akin to condoning and funding this type of treatment of animals.
This I despise and PETA and others are giving vegans a bad name for this. I hope that the subset hardline ideology that is coming to be associated with veganism is quashed because veganism as a dietary principle and the mindset behind it about animals is perfectly acceptable.

I do get a bit frustrated sometimes. If we were all to go vegan tomorrow there would just be so many problems because of the millenia of livestock farming before us.
For example, there isn't enough space to grow crops to feed us and many of the animals.

Second, where would all the animals go? Before we were thinking about animal rights, cows were bred in the West to maximise certain characteristics. They wouldn't survive without us! And there's no incentive to keep them if they just leech off of us and we can't even have a slurp from their teats.

Third, there would be a catastrophic job situation thinking practically. Humans have evolved so far as they require milk from an early age until about three. Cows and goats are essential in developing countries for their milk. Also, people who own livestock and work in the industry would not be able to earn.

Fourth, vegans love animals. Fair enough. But surely if you don't eat animal products because it isn't the animals' preference for you to, then surely continuing breeding domestic animals and selling them and keeping them as pets is counterproductive? Surely letting them go the other way and adapt back into the wild like wolves and wildcats is the right way to go? That is their instinct.


I respect vegans who aren't militant and simply can't bear to eat meat or animal products. It's only the ones who preach because fundamentally, like it or not, the world has got to a stage where a process of reversal is impossible.

Edited by EaglesEaglesEagles (19 May 2017 11.54am)

 


I ain't got nuthin' funny to say. Sorry.

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masonic_palace Flag Gatport Airwick 19 May 17 11.54am Send a Private Message to masonic_palace Add masonic_palace as a friend

Still waiting for someone to give me actual scientific evidence that my health will improve immeasurably if I stop eating cows pigs sheep chickens turkeys deer bunnies birds etc.

I doubt it will cure my hereditary hypertension, it won't lower my cholesterol and it sure as hell won't improve my happiness as I'd be downright miserable if I could never eat another bacon roll / veal milanese / wagyu steak / lamb jalfrezi / jugged hare / cheese and bacon burger / grilled lobster (is it lunchtime yet, this is giving me the munchies)

As I've said before, I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with other people's lifestyle choice - you can nibble your lawn grass for all I care. Just don't tell me I'm wrong for the choices I make.


 


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MalcomsFedora Flag Brockley 19 May 17 11.55am Send a Private Message to MalcomsFedora Add MalcomsFedora as a friend

Originally posted by VeganPower

No, quit boxing, it's not good for your mental health

Going to give me a lecture on a sport I have participated in since I was a kid and now coach youngsters.

 

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npn Flag Crowborough 19 May 17 11.58am Send a Private Message to npn Add npn as a friend

Originally posted by EaglesEaglesEagles

I don't wish to stereotype vegans at all but my point is about the charity PETA.

They have a lot of horrific promotional videos that show animal abuse in circumstances which I look to avoid and would want to be banned. Examples like battery chicken farming, 'industrial' milk farms and the like. PETA generalise all consumption animals or animal products as being akin to condoning and funding this type of treatment of animals.
This I despise and PETA and others are giving vegans a bad name for this. I hope that the subset hardline ideology that is coming to be associated with veganism is quashed because veganism as a dietary principle and the mindset behind it about animals is perfectly acceptable.

I do get a bit frustrated sometimes. If we were all to go vegan tomorrow there would just be so many problems because of the millenia of livestock farming before us.
For example, there isn't enough space to grow crops to feed us and many of the animals.

Second, where would all the animals go? Before we were thinking about animal rights, cows were bred in the West to maximise certain characteristics. They wouldn't survive without us! And there's no incentive to keep them if they just leech off of us and we can't even have a slurp from their teats.

Third, there would be a catastrophic job situation thinking practically. Humans have evolved so far as they require milk from an early age until about three. Cows and goats are essential in developing countries for their milk. Also, people who own livestock and work in the industry would not be able to earn.

Fourth, vegans love animals. Fair enough. But surely if you don't eat animal products because it isn't the animals' preference for you to, then surely continuing breeding domestic animals and selling them and keeping them as pets is counterproductive? Surely letting them go the other way and adapt back into the wild like wolves and wildcats is the right way to go? That is their instinct.


I respect vegans who aren't militant and simply can't bear to eat meat or animal products. It's only the ones who preach because fundamentally, like it or not, the world has got to a stage where a process of reversal is impossible.

Edited by EaglesEaglesEagles (19 May 2017 11.54am)

There's a good point in there - keeping domestic pets. Presumably that should also be outlawed?

 

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matt_himself Flag Matataland 19 May 17 11.59am Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Is it true that vegans cannot maintain an erection due to the lack of animal fats in their system?

 


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bubble wrap Flag Carparks in South East London 19 May 17 11.59am

Originally posted by MalcomsFedora

Going to give me a lecture on a sport I have participated in since I was a kid and now coach youngsters.

I boxed until is was 21. I think if i carried on i would have issues. Most boxers are damaged by the sport but we all know the risks but lets not pretend that its safe.

 

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