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DanH Flag SW2 01 Nov 19 3.54pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Some of us are longing for the day when you finally grow up.

Never. I am the internet equivalent of Dorian Gray.

 

Deleted11 01 Nov 19 3.55pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Yeah yeah....you infiltrator!

Haha. It actually did, but my second 'party' choice was Green. Can't get more diverse than that.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 01 Nov 19 4.00pm

Originally posted by Jway89

Haha. It actually did, but my second 'party' choice was Green. Can't get more diverse than that.

A kind of eco conservative in some sense perhaps.....mind you that wasn't so unusual in the past. I think one of the original creators of Greenpeace was politically on the right but also strongly into environmentalism......obviously.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 01 Nov 19 4.00pm

Originally posted by Willo

He has hung his colours to the mast apropos the deal and he just wants to "Get Brexit done" so no chance of that scenario coming to pass.

Surely it could if Farage wins enough seats. They could vote with Remainers to stop the deal and then we would leave on a default no deal with the Benn act repealed if that was the only option.

 

Deleted11 01 Nov 19 4.02pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

A kind of eco conservative in some sense perhaps.....mind you that wasn't so unusual in the past. I think one of the original creators of Greenpeace was politically on the right but also strongly into environmentalism......obviously.

If you're talking about Patrick Moore, then yes. Although, he's somewhat of a climate change denier, which is a bit odd.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 01 Nov 19 4.04pm

Originally posted by DanH

Never. I am the internet equivalent of Dorian Gray.

Mmmm...make sure you don't damage your router then.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 01 Nov 19 4.07pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Lots of Holers saying that they aren't left or right.

Mmmm...Me thinks the 'individualists' doth protest too much!

Perhaps if they took the political compass test we could all actually discover the political positioning.

[Link]

The last time I took the test, I was a little left of centre.
I know that spoiled some people's image of me living in a swastika emblazoned bunker.

Mine too. I had to move back into my house.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 01 Nov 19 4.07pm

Originally posted by Jway89

If you're talking about Patrick Moore, then yes. Although, he's somewhat of a climate change denier, which is a bit odd.

How dare you!

I rather enjoy the climate change debate.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 01 Nov 19 4.08pm

Originally posted by DanH

Never. I am the internet equivalent of Dorian Gray.

Look how well that went.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Nov 19 4.08pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Surely it could if Farage wins enough seats. They could vote with Remainers to stop the deal and then we would leave on a default no deal with the Benn act repealed if that was the only option.

My comments were based on a Boris majority in the impending election.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 01 Nov 19 4.09pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The last time I took the test, I was a little left of centre.
I know that spoiled some people's image of me living in a swastika emblazoned bunker.

Mine too. I had to move back into my house.

Yep same here....but I think I've become a bit more socially conservative since then.

 


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Deleted11 01 Nov 19 4.11pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

How dare you!

I rather enjoy the climate change debate.

Oh God no. The 'The World is going to end in 12 years' vs 'If it gets too hot, just take your jumper off' debate is a very close run with some of the idiocy on the Brexit debate. I can only take one thank you.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 01 Nov 19 4.17pm

Originally posted by Willo

My comments were based on a Boris majority in the impending election.

Fair enough.

It's a tough call for leavers who don't necessarily like the deal and would prefer no deal.
I'm sure they could be persuaded to vote Tory if a deal was done with Farage in which his party contested carefully selected seats.
It might be worth it to get a big Leave majority now and at the next election, Brexit Party would evaporate.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Nov 19 4.27pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Fair enough.

It's a tough call for leavers who don't necessarily like the deal and would prefer no deal.
I'm sure they could be persuaded to vote Tory if a deal was done with Farage in which his party contested carefully selected seats.
It might be worth it to get a big Leave majority now and at the next election, Brexit Party would evaporate.

The 'Mood music' in my circles (All leavers) is that an alliance with Farage will assist the Conservatives in our quest for an overall majority.

Apropos the deal, of course some will not view it as "Perfect" but compromises had to be made.As Mark Francois said it is not Valhalla but it gets us out of the EU.

Edited by Willo (01 Nov 2019 4.36pm)

 

sickboy Flag Deal or Croydon 01 Nov 19 4.31pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Fair enough.

It's a tough call for leavers who don't necessarily like the deal and would prefer no deal.
I'm sure they could be persuaded to vote Tory if a deal was done with Farage in which his party contested carefully selected seats.
It might be worth it to get a big Leave majority now and at the next election, Brexit Party would evaporate.

The present deal is the best , apparently, we could get with no deal off the table.
Surely, if possible, a stronger outcome for us would be available with the possibility of no deal in the mix.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 01 Nov 19 4.32pm

Originally posted by Jway89

Oh God no. The 'The World is going to end in 12 years' vs 'If it gets too hot, just take your jumper off' debate is a very close run with some of the idiocy on the Brexit debate. I can only take one thank you.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 01 Nov 19 4.33pm

Originally posted by Willo

The 'Mood music' in my circles (All leavers) is that an alliance with Farage will assist the Conservatives in our quest for an overall majority.

If it happens I hope they keep it quiet till relatively late on.

 


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Deleted11 01 Nov 19 4.36pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Fair enough.

It's a tough call for leavers who don't necessarily like the deal and would prefer no deal.
I'm sure they could be persuaded to vote Tory if a deal was done with Farage in which his party contested carefully selected seats.
It might be worth it to get a big Leave majority now and at the next election, Brexit Party would evaporate.

I'm not sure it is a tough call for leavers. Farage has run on pretty much a No Deal Brexit, while stroking a Canada++++ or something to that effect. If you are in the 'Out means out' camp, I can't see how you'd not vote for the Brexit Party.

Farage has basically said that May's deal is worse than remaining and I think he's basically said Boris's deal is worse than May's. Therefore, Farage not standing candidates anywhere is at odds with what he wants to achieve and here's the reason why;

Boris and Corbyn will no deliver 'true' Brexit. It will be remain light, because I don't believe there are enough ardent No Dealers in either party. I mean, the Brexit Party has been around for almost a year and still have no policies that I'm aware of, which says a lot.

Farage may be a BSer, but he's smart. He knows, unless ego gets in the way, that the most power you have isn't a PM, it's as the opposition or the big donor.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Nov 19 4.47pm

A survey of Conservative members has revealed that 51% want Johnson to form a pact with Farage, 42% were against whilst 7% were in the 'Dont know' category.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 01 Nov 19 4.49pm

Let's not forget though that this election isn't only about Brexit.

A Corbyn government would be economically disastrous as would be a hung parliament with a lib-lab pact.

We would have a repeat of when the socialists took over in France and we would see a significant proportion of wealth buggering off.

If Farage's party stood and were to take three or four points off of a Tory vote who knows what might happen.

Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Nov 2019 4.50pm)

 


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