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Originally posted by Sansbup
Come to think of it, that's their fans main chant. Now we know why...
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Don't lose sight of this VAR didn't get the decisions wrong Friend and Pawson did. VAR showed correctly one was offside and secondly it wasn't a penalty.
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Originally posted by Slimey Toad
Dermot Gallagher's opinion on Sky Watch posted here argues that a subjective decision was made on Firmino's impact on interfering with the game. Fair enough, most of life can be subjective. But if the VAR controller subjectively thinks that if Firmino wasn't standing in the six yard box waiting for a cross to attack Mitchell would still be standing there on his own like a lemon instead of back-tracking to Oxlade Chamblerain behind him, then they should be sacked. Think this is a moot point. you Can't simply say 'If he wasn't there', more 'If he was there, but in an ONside position' which means Mitchell's position wouldn't have changed that much. It was the fact that Firmino challenged for the ball and by doing so made him active and thus Offside.
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Originally posted by jabber
Don't lose sight of this VAR didn't get the decisions wrong Friend and Pawson did. VAR showed correctly one was offside and secondly it wasn't a penalty.
Having said that, his early warning to Gallagher (first tackle in first minute), his reluctance to punish Liverpool fouls and his response to the Olise injury do leave a bad taste in the mouth. All-in-all it was an awful all round performance by the match officials - the worst I've ever seen, in fact. Edited by doombear (28 Jan 2022 12.58pm)
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Originally posted by doombear
Having said that, his early warning to Gallagher (first tackle in first minute), his reluctance to punish Liverpool fouls and his response to the Olise injury do leave a bad taste in the mouth. All-in-all it was an awful all round performance by the match officials - the worst I've ever seen, in fact. Edited by doombear (28 Jan 2022 12.58pm) And his smug grin at half-time and when not awarding Palace a handball
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Originally posted by jabber
Don't lose sight of this VAR didn't get the decisions wrong Friend and Pawson did. VAR showed correctly one was offside and secondly it wasn't a penalty. VAR = Video Assistant Referee…who was Pawson, so VAR did get the decision wrong. VAR is just awful, hasn’t eradicated bad decisions and is killing the game in terms of excitement, euphoria, atmosphere and enjoyment. The whole system / process in its current form is just suffocating the game. Edited by Phil’s Barber (28 Jan 2022 3.15pm)
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Originally posted by Phil’s Barber
VAR = Video Assistant Referee…who was Pawson, so VAR did get the decision wrong. VAR is just awful, hasn’t eradicated bad decisions and is killing the game in terms of excitement, euphoria, atmosphere and enjoyment. The whole system / process in its current form is just suffocating the game. Edited by Phil’s Barber (28 Jan 2022 3.15pm)
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Originally posted by peterg
If that was the case it suggests Pawson was going looking for something rather than it be a clear and obvious error by the referee. As I've said before, we used to accept that bad refereeing decisions would even themselves out over the course of the season. I now feel that's the case with VAR
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Originally posted by NEILLO
If that was the case it suggests Pawson was going looking for something rather than it be a clear and obvious error by the referee. As I've said before, we used to accept that bad refereeing decisions would even themselves out over the course of the season. I now feel that's the case with VAR The consensus appears to be that Jota initiated contact with Guaita by running into him. I believe that I mentioned on HOL that it would appear that Pawson has deemed that it was Guaita who rolled over and used his left arm to take down Jota hence he felt that the referee committed a clear and obvious error in not identifying the foul.
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Originally posted by NEILLO
If that was the case it suggests Pawson was going looking for something rather than it be a clear and obvious error by the referee. As I've said before, we used to accept that bad refereeing decisions would even themselves out over the course of the season. I now feel that's the case with VAR I see your point, but another team and set of fans will be aggrieved by the ineptitude of the officials. I was under the impression that VAR was to be used to make the correct call, obviously not - whoever the VAR official is has complete power over the entire game, more so than the ref on the pitch... Edited by southnorwoodhill (29 Jan 2022 4.04pm)
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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill
I see yur point, but another team and set of fans will be aggrieved by the ineptitude of the officials. I was under the impression that VAR was to be used to make the correct call, obviously not - whoever the VAR official is has complete power over the entire game, more so than the ref on the pitch... I never felt that VAR was going to be a panacea for the mere fact that subjective decisions would be made in certain circumstances and whenever there is subjectivity there is always the risk of inconsistency and controversy.
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Originally posted by NEILLO
If that was the case it suggests Pawson was going looking for something rather than it be a clear and obvious error by the referee. As I've said before, we used to accept that bad refereeing decisions would even themselves out over the course of the season. I now feel that's the case with VAR Brown envelope full of cash maybe?
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