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Oddball2021 Flag Adelaide 23 Aug 23 1.02pm

I’m sure this subject must be posted elsewhere, but I thought Rak-Sakyi looked pretty composed and threatening when he came on against Arse. That speaks volumes to me about his ability to handle the EPL. I would keep him. What am I missing?

 

Eaglecoops Flag CR3 23 Aug 23 1.19pm

I know some were impressed. I wasn’t so much and think he needs a year in the Championship. There are plenty of suitors and I reckon a year of hard work in that league will better prepare him.

 

Robk Flag 23 Aug 23 1.38pm

Why hold him back.... neither him nor Ahamada looked out of place... let’s give him the opportunity...

 

doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 23 Aug 23 2.25pm

Originally posted by Robk

Why hold him back.... neither him nor Ahamada looked out of place... let’s give him the opportunity...


What would happen to him when Olise is back and takes his place in the team?

His development is better served in a good Championship team.

 

Putitout Flag Oxford 23 Aug 23 2.56pm

Originally posted by Robk

Why hold him back.... neither him nor Ahamada looked out of place... let’s give him the opportunity...

I don’t think a season with a decent Championship side , could be called holding him back so surely patience is the best option for him and the club
If he failed to progress , that would hold him back,, but we would know then that he wasn’t ready for us, and maybe won’t be . Personally my feeling is there is every chance just a bit more time to mature and he could well have made a mark good enough for a regular squad place with Palace.

 

Elpis Flag In a pub 23 Aug 23 3.04pm

Originally posted by doombear


What would happen to him when Olise is back and takes his place in the team?

His development is better served in a good Championship team.

That would depend on the team and the coaches at the club . What happens if Olise takes longer than expected to get back , starts having recovery injuries and ends up playing every 2nd/3rd game ? We need back up whatever happens to Olise and Saki looks decent on the ball and worth a place on the bench . As long as Roy is going to give him game time I dont see why we wouldn't keep him at the club

 

monkey Flag Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 23 Aug 23 3.08pm

Originally posted by Robk

Why hold him back.... neither him nor Ahamada looked out of place... let’s give him the opportunity...

It’s not holding him back, he’s just obviously not believed to be good enough, he only featured the other night because of Olises injury and our lack of players.
As I’ve said many times before, if he was going to be good enough to make it big time in the premier league with us it would’ve happened by now, he made his debut two years ago. They give it all this about his development sending him out on loan to lower league teams, but young players who do make it big time with us as in Wilf, AWB and Mitchell don’t get sent out on loan first

 

Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 23 Aug 23 3.19pm

Originally posted by Robk

Why hold him back....neither him nor Ahamada looked out of place... let’s give him the opportunity...

I'm with you on this Robk. I would certainly like to see both of them, Rak-Sakyi in particular, being given more opportunity to develop with our first team.

They look the part already and their brief appearances show they can play a bit. Added game time can only improve them.

 


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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 23 Aug 23 3.23pm

I'm very wary of the 'next Pele/Maradona/Rooney/Iniesta/Wilf/AWB' sentiments people express about youngsters, all seems very adrift from reality to me.

Agree he did not look out of place but a very brief cameo, against a 10-man so sitting behind the ball Arsenal too, is not enough to rule him out or in IMHO.

Would like to see a bit more of JRS in any instance but certainly before further commentary. At the very least he has yet to disgrace himself.

 


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TheBigToePunt Flag 23 Aug 23 3.37pm

You can tell very little from such a short cameo but I thought Rak-Sakyi looked fairly bright when he came on.

I would not be loaning him out as things stand, simply because we don't have a big enough squad to lose players. If we sign a player or two for the forward line then fair enough, perhaps a loan is a good idea, but otherwise no chance.

We can reassess in January depending on whether Olise and Franca are fit, and whether the latter has made much impact.

 

monkey Flag Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 23 Aug 23 3.44pm

Originally posted by Nicholas91

I'm very wary of the 'next Pele/Maradona/Rooney/Iniesta/Wilf/AWB' sentiments people express about youngsters, all seems very adrift from reality to me.

Agree he did not look out of place but a very brief cameo, against a 10-man so sitting behind the ball Arsenal too, is not enough to rule him out or in IMHO.

Would like to see a bit more of JRS in any instance but certainly before further commentary. At the very least he has yet to disgrace himself.

I wish I had a fiver for every promising young star over the years who’ve had a brief little spell coming off the bench in the first team for a game or two and everyone’s got excited about them, but after a string of loans end up signing for a lower or non league team. The latest example that springs to mind is Brandon Pierrick who came on as sub against Norwich three years ago, now playing for Croydon Athletic!!

Edited by monkey (23 Aug 2023 3.44pm)

 

Luke91 Flag 23 Aug 23 5.55pm

Would much rather see JRS given a chance on the right and ayew on the left than shlupp out wide again. If he has a run and seems to struggle a bit then maybe send him to the championship on loan, but with how lightweight our squad is at the moment, I don’t think we can afford to let him go.

 

Charles Flag Forest Hill 23 Aug 23 8.21pm

I'm inclined to agree witht the argument that JRS needs a yesr in the Championship playing 90 minutes week in week out to consolidate his development. That's not a setback for him or a lack of belief; the trajectory would be close enough to - for instance - Conor Gallagher's. Having said that, once he'd settled on Monday night - which understandably took time - he started to show signs of more than 'not looking out of place'. If neither Olise nor Franca are likely to be in contention before October, JRS wouldn't be missing too much football if he didn't go on loan till January; that of course is assuming he'd play fairly regularly till Olise's return. Although we didn't see enough against Arsenal to feel confident of that, I think we saw enough to suppose it's far from impossible. A more extended outing against Brentford could give a clearer picture while still giving time to arrange a loan if that still looked the best option. If on the other hand he did well, the club get a more balanced attack for the next few games and transfer emphasis can go on a desperately needed no. 9 rather than an extra wide player. JRS gets some invaluable experience and maybe proves he already belongs in Palace's first team squad. Could be win win and well worth a longer look in my opinion.

 

The groover Flag Danbury 23 Aug 23 10.38pm

I'm expecting to see him start against Plymouth and depending on his performance and the result he may stay or go on loan. If we get though he may stay to play next round.

Our squad is wafer thin with the injuries we have. It would be crazy to loan players out and not be able to fill the bench.

 

Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 24 Aug 23 6.34am

The thing is, I can't see him walking into a good championship side, and I can see him struggling in a bad one.

While he has the skills for the former, I doubt he will be head and shoulders above what they have. In the latter, does he have the necessary physicality in a side playing back-foot football?

As such, I think his development is best served by being on the fringe of the first team and given minutes at carefully selected times.

Or we sell him to a good championship side with a buyback. They would need to be invested in his success.

 


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doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 24 Aug 23 8.37am

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

The thing is, I can't see him walking into a good championship side, and I can see him struggling in a bad one.

While he has the skills for the former, I doubt he will be head and shoulders above what they have. In the latter, does he have the necessary physicality in a side playing back-foot football?

As such, I think his development is best served by being on the fringe of the first team and given minutes at carefully selected times.

Or we sell him to a good championship side with a buyback. They would need to be invested in his success.


If the rumours are to be believed there are/were a host of Championship teams wanting to take him on loan including, Leicester, Ipswich and Blackburn. In other words, this isn't a case of Palace trying to find a Championship club willing to take him but Championship clubs queueing up for his services which suggests to me he would be wanted for the starting XI rather than as a bench warmer.

 

MrRobbo Flag Chaldon 24 Aug 23 8.43am

I think much depends on the rest of the window.

If we are still as light as we are now, he should probably stay and will get some game time, but if we sign another wide man, a season in the champs is probably best

 

palace99 Flag New Mills 24 Aug 23 9.29am

Originally posted by The groover

I'm expecting to see him start against Plymouth and depending on his performance and the result he may stay or go on loan. If we get though he may stay to play next round.

Our squad is wafer thin with the injuries we have. It would be crazy to loan players out and not be able to fill the bench.

Totally agree. He plays in a wide attacking position, exactly the area we are very short of options.

I don't think he's ready to be a regular Prem starter (yet) but he could be a good option from the bench.

ATM a loan in Jan seems the most logical option for both the club and the player.

 

Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 24 Aug 23 10.07am

Originally posted by doombear


If the rumours are to be believed there are/were a host of Championship teams wanting to take him on loan including, Leicester, Ipswich and Blackburn. In other words, this isn't a case of Palace trying to find a Championship club willing to take him but Championship clubs queueing up for his services which suggests to me he would be wanted for the starting XI rather than as a bench warmer.

I don't doubt many clubs will take him. The issue is which will play him and allow him to showcase his talent and develop.

 


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thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 24 Aug 23 10.08am

Originally posted by palace99

Totally agree. He plays in a wide attacking position, exactly the area we are very short of options.

I don't think he's ready to be a regular Prem starter (yet) but he could be a good option from the bench.

ATM a loan in Jan seems the most logical option for both the club and the player.

Madness to loan him out, both JRS and Ahamada seemed pretty confident when they came on. Add to that, we are short of offensive players, so yes, keep them both and give them time on the pitch.

 

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