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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
What an idiot.... he NEVER thinks things through. He wants companies to ban after work drinks? How is he going to do this? Would he pass legislation to prevent some young carefree co workers going to a pub after work and having a bit of banter and winding down? Those who choose not to go to the pub do so because they would rather go home to their families... they are not discriminated against. Its a free choice... no one is forced to have kids and settle down. FFS. There was me thinking Corbyn was just highlighting how the culture in the workplace favours men. Still for some, women should be in the kitchen or bedroom anyway!
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Originally posted by nickgusset
There was me thinking Corbyn was just highlighting how the culture in the workplace favours men. Still for some, women should be in the kitchen or bedroom anyway!
As for banning meetings:
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Originally posted by nickgusset
There was me thinking Corbyn was just highlighting how the culture in the workplace favours men. Still for some, women should be in the kitchen or bedroom anyway! Does it now? Primary school? Hell you worked in one, they are ran by females and not always to their betterment. Secondary school even? There are plenty of professions where women rule and in my career I've personally witnessed women being advantaged all the time. Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Sep 2016 1.46pm)
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Does it now? Primary school? Hell you worked in one, they are ran by females and not always to their betterment. Secondary school even? There are plenty of professions where women rule and in my career I've personally witnessed women being advantaged all the time. Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Sep 2016 1.46pm) Fair point. I should have said 'many or some workplaces'
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Originally posted by nickgusset
There was me thinking Corbyn was just highlighting how the culture in the workplace favours men. Still for some, women should be in the kitchen or bedroom anyway! I think Stirling has adequately answered this Gusset. And I posed the question "How did he plan to overcome this 'discrimination'?" and was pointing out the ridiculous - that he could ban after work drinking to stop it. The guy's a fool.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Fair point. I should have said 'many or some workplaces' Fair play to you Nick.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Does it now? Primary school? Hell you worked in one, they are ran by females and not always to their betterment. Secondary school even? There are plenty of professions where women rule and in my career I've personally witnessed women being advantaged all the time. Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Sep 2016 1.46pm) Without doubt in the 40+ years I worked the two worst bosses I ever had were women. The first hadn't a clue how to do the work in our Dept for starters and kept calling pointless meetings to improve workflow at locations away from the workplace (to prevent interruption she said) but created unnecessary cost and disruption organising cover for signing off work and resentment from key staff who thought we were on a jolly! One of my team leaders infuriated her by suggesting that our Dept had a fire raging and that instead of putting it out with buckets of water for now we were sat around discussing the plans for building a fire engine... LOL The second wasn't very bright either and resented my problem solving skills and pragmatic approach to handling complaints. She preferred long winded, labour intensive solutions that cost more money than she was trying to save by going through formalities and was very petty. she would invite the girls round to her house for drinks/nibbles but I didn't feel discriminated against - just relieved not to have to endure her company any longer than I had to.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
There was me thinking Corbyn was just highlighting how the culture in the workplace favours men. Still for some, women should be in the kitchen or bedroom anyway! I have sort of defended him at points on here. But whether it was intentional or not he has made himself look very foolish here. As a policy speech he may have been trying to highlight culture inequality, but what he has come out of it as is someone who wants to ban after work drinks. It makes him look like a political cretin.
"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show |
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Originally posted by OknotOK
I have sort of defended him at points on here. But whether it was intentional or not he has made himself look very foolish here. As a policy speech he may have been trying to highlight culture inequality, but what he has come out of it as is someone who wants to ban after work drinks. It makes him look like a political cretin. Do you mean it has been twisted by the media to look like this?
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Do you mean it has been twisted by the media to look like this? You've seen the video, what has been twisted?
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Do you mean it has been twisted by the media to look like this? Even if it has been twisted he needs to learn how to be a politician. Politicians know that their words are going to be twisted. He should know that better than most by now. Why risk it? It's a stupid topic to get involved in. Politically it is incredibly naive at best.
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Originally posted by OknotOK
Even if it has been twisted he needs to learn how to be a politician. Politicians know that their words are going to be twisted. He should know that better than most by now. Why risk it? It's a stupid topic to get involved in. Politically it is incredibly naive at best. I have no issue with people trying to address inequality however the fact he even thought this was a way of addressing the issue is laughable. It is student politics. It shows how out of touch he is with the real world. The drinking culture he describes is not universal and already dying a natural death. You call him naive, I think you are being kind
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
I have no issue with people trying to address inequality however the fact he even thought this was a way of addressing the issue is laughable. It is student politics. It shows how out of touch he is with the real world. The drinking culture he describes is not universal and already dying a natural death. You call him naive, I think you are being kind I agree hence why I said "at best". On every level it just seems an unnecessary intervention that will damage him. I haven't watched the video. To be honest I'm not that interested, but I presume (possibly being generous) that it really wasn't as stupid as it is portrayed. But the problem is he has left himself exposed to being portrayed as a killjoy, out of touch, or an idiot again. Politicians have to be more media-savvy and he just appears completely unable to do so. Worth noting that according to Yougov polling today 51% of the public (and something like 60%+ of Labour voters) think the media is biased against him, but even if they are right, he needs to be more clever about the way he deals with the press.
"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show |
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Originally posted by OknotOK
I agree hence why I said "at best". On every level it just seems an unnecessary intervention that will damage him. I haven't watched the video. To be honest I'm not that interested, but I presume (possibly being generous) that it really wasn't as stupid as it is portrayed. But the problem is he has left himself exposed to being portrayed as a killjoy, out of touch, or an idiot again. Politicians have to be more media-savvy and he just appears completely unable to do so. Worth noting that according to Yougov polling today 51% of the public (and something like 60%+ of Labour voters) think the media is biased against him, but even if they are right, he needs to be more clever about the way he deals with the press. Funnily enough I watched the video because I had assumed it was a bit of a stitch up. It's not. I saw a a survey yesterday (survation I think) and he was 60% less popular than May. I think he also looks weak re Vaz, saying its's a private matter. I would suggest again he is misreading the public opinion
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Do you mean it has been twisted by the media to look like this?
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Was YouGov poll incorrect?
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