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matt_himself Flag Matataland 24 May 17 7.58am

Originally posted by VeganPower

Yes it took place, yes many innocent people died and continue to suffer in hospital.

Who did it?
Why?
Could it be false flag?

I don't know the answers and please don't pretend that you are already sure.

Julius, what matter now is that the injured and the bereaved are allowed to heal and mourn.

Your type of passive aggressive politics only serves to inflame people.

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 24 May 17 7.59am

Originally posted by VeganPower

Yes it took place, yes many innocent people died and continue to suffer in hospital.

Who did it?
Why?
Could it be false flag?

I don't know the answers and please don't pretend that you are already sure.

Do you think the bomber died in the explosion?

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

VeganPower Flag Chesham 24 May 17 8.00am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Do you think the bomber died in the explosion?

I'm really not sure and I do think it's an excellent question

 


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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 24 May 17 8.05am

Originally posted by VeganPower

A reasonable response would be "no, I don't think this a false flag attack, this is a 22 year old man, born in Manchester, but disaffected to the point of suicide, a man who ended his miserable life by trying to make the rest of the city as miserable as he was"

a compelling narrative, I'm just not sure I believe it

your response is more like someone putting their fingers in their ears and yelling "WAH WAH WAH", which suggests that if it were a false flag attack, it worked perfectly, the audience responded dutifully.

My response was perfectly measured. There is absolutely no reason to suggest that this was a false flag. I stand by what I said, while you were trying score political points, I was watching Olivia Campbell's uncle trawl hospitals trying to find her hoping she was alive when all the viewers knew what the truth was.

You have absolutely no foundation for your claim. None. Still people like you on the left would prefer to think ill of our country, you don't need evidence you just "know". You ignore all the positive things that make this country a great place to live and focus on the negative.

Do us all a favour f*** off to your South American paradise.

 


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VeganPower Flag Chesham 24 May 17 8.07am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

My response was perfectly measured. There is absolutely no reason to suggest that this was a false flag. I stand by what I said, while you were trying score political points, I was watching Olivia Campbell's uncle trawl hospitals trying to find her hoping she was alive when all the viewers knew what the truth was.

You have absolutely no foundation for your claim. None. Still people like you on the left would prefer to think ill of our country, you don't need evidence you just "know". You ignore all the positive things that make this country a great place to live and focus on the negative.

Do us all a favour f*** off to your South American paradise.

I didn't claim anything, that you would not even sanction me asking a question about it is ridiculous. I love this country, it is a great place to live. I'm just not naive enough to believe everything the papers tell me to believe.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 24 May 17 8.19am

Too much abuse on this thread. Just because someone has an opinion, which in my view isn't invalid , is no reason to tell them to f*** off.

Just saying.

Edit. Just heard interviewer on today programme ask Amber Rudd if putting military and even tanks on the street during an election campaign was being used for political capital (I paraphrase)

Should the interviewer 'f*** off to South America '?

Edited by nickgusset (24 May 2017 8.23am)

 

Kermit8 Flag Hevon 24 May 17 8.23am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

My response was perfectly measured. There is absolutely no reason to suggest that this was a false flag. I stand by what I said, while you were trying score political points, I was watching Olivia Campbell's uncle trawl hospitals trying to find her hoping she was alive when all the viewers knew what the truth was.

You have absolutely no foundation for your claim. None. Still people like you on the left would prefer to think ill of our country, you don't need evidence you just "know". You ignore all the positive things that make this country a great place to live and focus on the negative.

Do us all a favour f*** off to your South American paradise.

Stop feeding it would be my advice.

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 24 May 17 8.33am

Originally posted by VeganPower

I didn't claim anything, that you would not even sanction me asking a question about it is ridiculous. I love this country, it is a great place to live. I'm just not naive enough to believe everything the papers tell me to believe.

What do you love about it? Are all of the papers full of lies - what about the Vegetarian section in the Guardian?

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 24 May 17 8.37am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Too much abuse on this thread. Just because someone has an opinion, which in my view isn't invalid , is no reason to tell them to f*** off.

Just saying.

Edit. Just heard interviewer on today programme ask Amber Rudd if putting military and even tanks on the street during an election campaign was being used for political capital (I paraphrase)

Should the interviewer 'f*** off to South America '?

Edited by nickgusset (24 May 2017 8.23am)

Did he ask if it was a false flag attack? If so, yes

And to expand, my issue with you was simply the hypocrisy I mentioned last night. Both sides of the political divide can make capital out of what has happened should they wish. Now (and certainly then)is not the time.

There will be lots of questions over the coming weeks about what happened. Mistakes if any, what could have been done differently. And yes, whether anyone else is culpable.

Trying to score cheap political points does not reflect well on anyone.

Edited by Y Ddraig Goch (24 May 2017 8.44am)

 


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.TUX. Flag 24 May 17 8.49am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

My response was perfectly measured. There is absolutely no reason to suggest that this was a false flag. I stand by what I said, while you were trying score political points, I was watching Olivia Campbell's uncle trawl hospitals trying to find her hoping she was alive when all the viewers knew what the truth was.

You have absolutely no foundation for your claim. None. Still people like you on the left would prefer to think ill of our country, you don't need evidence you just "know". You ignore all the positive things that make this country a great place to live and focus on the negative.

Do us all a favour f*** off to your South American paradise.

If various govts (regardless of colour) can willingly kill hundreds of thousands of innocents abroad, then as unsavoury as it may sound (to some) it's really not beyond the realms of possibility, however small the percentage, to think that these same people wouldn't do similar to their own.
For sure it may well be far-fetched, but to bat it straight outta the park as conspiracy/delusion is blinkered imho.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 24 May 17 8.49am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Too much abuse on this thread. Just because someone has an opinion, which in my view isn't invalid , is no reason to tell them to f*** off.

Just saying.

Edit. Just heard interviewer on today programme ask Amber Rudd if putting military and even tanks on the street during an election campaign was being used for political capital (I paraphrase)

Should the interviewer 'f*** off to South America '?

Edited by nickgusset (24 May 2017 8.23am)

The revulsion to what he said and you supported is perfectly valid in my view. People express that in their own ways.

He has a right to say it and people also have a right to criticise it.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 24 May 17 8.51am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Did he ask if it was a false flag attack? If so, yes

And to expand, my issue with you was simply the hypocrisy I mentioned last night. Both sides of the political divide can make capital out of what has happened should they wish. Now (and certainly then)is not the time.

There will be lots of questions over the coming weeks about what happened. Mistakes if any, what could have been done differently. And yes, whether anyone else is culpable.

Trying to score cheap political points does not reflect well on anyone.

Edited by Y Ddraig Goch (24 May 2017 8.44am)

It was a she. Only asked if putting troops on the street was due to it being election time. She should have followed up with a question about the dramatic cut in police numbers but didn't.

Good day for bingo on here. We've had. f*** of to your south American paradise. You smoke weed, terrorist sympathiser and various other put downs. What ever happened to good old fashioned debate?

 

VeganPower Flag Chesham 24 May 17 8.56am

Originally posted by matt_himself

Julius, what matter now is that the injured and the bereaved are allowed to heal and mourn.

Your type of passive aggressive politics only serves to inflame people.

Yeah, why question everything or anything for that matter.

Excuse me while I roll over so Theresa can bust my hole with a strap on

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 24 May 17 9.00am

The threat level is very obviously severe. We have just had two attacks within months. And we are apparently breaking up plots and arresting people all the time.

People have every right to ask stupid questions. Still, a stupid contention deserves criticism if for no other reason than to raise the level of debate and express annoyance.

Whether or not an action helps one or other side in politics has nothing to do with whether it is the sensible thing to do or not. It is not mutually exclusive and conspiracy theory is laughable without evidence.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 May 2017 9.00am)

 


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VeganPower Flag Chesham 24 May 17 9.00am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

What do you love about it? Are all of the papers full of lies - what about the Vegetarian section in the Guardian?

I love that I can ask about a false flag and I don't just "vanish" after secret police turn up at my house. I love the Palace. I love the fact that I got a good education here and so do my kids. I love the weather, not too hot, not too cold. I love the banter. I love the equality. I love the freedom.

 


22 years eating a vegan diet. Perfectly happy and healthy on it.

VeganPower Flag Chesham 24 May 17 9.01am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The threat level is very obviously severe. We have just had two attacks within months. And we are apparently breaking up plots and arresting people all the time.

People have every right to ask stupid questions. Still, a stupid contention deserves criticism if for no other reason than to raise the level of debate and express annoyance.

Whether or not an action helps one or other side in politics has nothing to do with whether it is the sensible thing to do or not. It is not mutually exclusive and conspiracy theory is laughable without evidence.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 May 2017 9.00am)

If a question results in being told to f**k off, that's not criticism, thats censorship

 


22 years eating a vegan diet. Perfectly happy and healthy on it.

Stirlingsays Flag 24 May 17 9.02am

Originally posted by VeganPower

I love that I can ask about a false flag and I don't just "vanish" after secret police turn up at my house. I love the Palace. I love the fact that I got a good education here and so do my kids. I love the weather, not too hot, not too cold. I love the banter. I love the equality. I love the freedom.

'I got a good education.'

Maybe you should love a little less and focus a little more.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 May 2017 9.06am)

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 24 May 17 9.03am

Originally posted by VeganPower

I love that I can ask about a false flag and I don't just "vanish" after secret police turn up at my house. I love the Palace. I love the fact that I got a good education here and so do my kids. I love the weather, not too hot, not too cold. I love the banter. I love the equality. I love the freedom.

be patient.

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

VeganPower Flag Chesham 24 May 17 9.04am

Remember that Theresa has already told us that she would be ready to kill 200,000 innocent people with a nuke. She is perfectly capable of dealing with threats to her world view with death.

 


22 years eating a vegan diet. Perfectly happy and healthy on it.

Stirlingsays Flag 24 May 17 9.05am

Originally posted by VeganPower

If a question results in being told to f**k off, that's not criticism, thats censorship

Incorrect: without enforcement it is criticism.

Censorship is being stopped from expressing your views.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 May 2017 9.05am)

 


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