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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You can't compare May to Corbyn on leadership or Brexit...Well I suppose you can but then again you just supported Vegan's conspiracy theory so there you go. Corbyn isn't even supported by his own MPs. The EU would laugh at him. He's a nice but incapable man. Edited by Stirlingsays (24 May 2017 9.33am) Corbyn isn't supported by Blairite tory lite labour mp's ftfy
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Originally posted by VeganPower
I'm more comfortable with someone sane looking after the button You will forgive me if I rather doubt your judgement on sanity.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Can we talk about May's car crash interview with Andrew Neil on Monday yet. She is crap. No wonder she doesn't want to debate with Corbyn. God help us if weak and wobbly is in Charge of Brexit. About as strong and stable as the average manager's tenure at Palace!
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I get a sense that you were a virtual storm in the math's classroom. I passed maths a level
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Originally posted by VeganPower
Corbyn isn't supported by Blairite tory lite labour mp's ftfy Oh you mean that party that could actually win elections....oh sorry...I forgot you meant the talking shop where everyone talks b0llocks about policies they will never get to implement.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You will forgive me if I rather doubt your judgement on sanity.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Oh you mean that party that could actually win elections....oh sorry...I forgot you meant the talking shop where everyone talks b0llocks about policies they will never get to implement. which policies are you so against?
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Originally posted by VeganPower
I passed maths a level It must have been a conspiracy.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You can't compare May to Corbyn on leadership or Brexit...Well I suppose you can but then again you just supported Vegan's conspiracy theory so there you go. Corbyn isn't even supported by his own MPs. The EU would laugh at him. He's a nice but incapable man. Edited by Stirlingsays (24 May 2017 9.33am) Saying it's a reasonable question is not the same as saying it was a false flag. So I haven't supported a conspiracy theory as you say. In fact I don't even think Vegan has said it was a false flag, just raised the question.
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Originally posted by VeganPower
which policies are you so against? The idea that you can tax the wealthy to the tune of 45 billion and still maintain investment. The defence review and doubts over the commitment to nuclear deterrence. The lack of a commitment to reducing immigration.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Saying it's a reasonable question is not the same as saying it was a false flag. So I haven't supported a conspiracy theory as you say. In fact I don't even think Vegan has said it was a false flag, just raised the question. I just asked the question, I did actually say that I wasn't saying it was. I was just gauging the mood of the forum.
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Originally posted by VeganPower
Thanks for that.
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Originally posted by Lyons550
Agreed. Do they happen...of course they do...how often is clearly open to debate...it's also suggested that they're used for matters far far bigger than a bloody election I believe the election (to a degree) is an irrelevance tbh. It's more about the continued control through fear of the masses. ...however to consider a false flag event would be initiated on Children...and then by a British born civilian is beyond teh pale in my book. As i said, it is unsavoury, but it should never be fully dismissed. Surely if one were to happen it'd be by a nationalised individual from overseas and on a bigger scale.(?)
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The idea that you can tax the wealthy to the tune of 45 billion and still maintain investment. The defence review and doubts over the commitment to nuclear deterrence. The lack of a commitment to reducing immigration. Yes, these are legitimate questions which would be foolish to gloss over. The first is easily dealt with. Any proper investigation into how Scandinavian countries economic strategy operates will soon show the casual observer that a more equal distribution of wealth is actually good for business. Just not great for the 1% at the top of the pile. More cash in most peoples pockets is spent in shops and creates a virtuous circle. Corbyn doesn't want Trident, but the Labour party as a whole does, so Trident will be renewed. Labour are likely to be soft on immigration, that's true. Although Theresa has had years to be hard on it and not delivered
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The idea that you can tax the wealthy to the tune of 45 billion and still maintain investment. The defence review and doubts over the commitment to nuclear deterrence. The lack of a commitment to reducing immigration. All of these points aren't accurate. The Funding Britain document which costs Labour's spending plans sets out extra revenue from income tax of £6.4bn. This is also adjusted downwards for uncertainty so is a conservative estimate. They also allow for £3.9bn reduction due to changes in behaviour. The manifesto sets out a clear commitment to renewing trident. There is no ambiguity. The manifesto clearly states that "freedom of movement will end when we leave the EU". The proposal is for a fair immigration system without arbitrary targets. They will crack down on unscrupulous employers who have migrant worker only policies and get away with paying below minimum wages and offering substandard working conditions. It would be a system based on needs of business but not giving businesses unfettered access to cheap labour. They would also set up a Migrant Impact Fund to target areas most adversely affected by migration. An actual sensible targeted policy to ensure we have sufficient labour but strain on public services are managed and improved. The Tories just have an arbitrary target.
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
All of these points aren't accurate. The Funding Britain document which costs Labour's spending plans sets out extra revenue from income tax of £6.4bn. This is also adjusted downwards for uncertainty so is a conservative estimate. They also allow for £3.9bn reduction due to changes in behaviour. The manifesto sets out a clear commitment to renewing trident. There is no ambiguity. The manifesto clearly states that "freedom of movement will end when we leave the EU". The proposal is for a fair immigration system without arbitrary targets. They will crack down on unscrupulous employers who have migrant worker only policies and get away with paying below minimum wages and offering substandard working conditions. It would be a system based on needs of business but not giving businesses unfettered access to cheap labour. They would also set up a Migrant Impact Fund to target areas most adversely affected by migration. An actual sensible targeted policy to ensure we have sufficient labour but strain on public services are managed and improved. The Tories just have an arbitrary target. Apart from the prospective Prime Minister wanting to get rid of it.
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
All of these points aren't accurate. The Funding Britain document which costs Labour's spending plans sets out extra revenue from income tax of £6.4bn. This is also adjusted downwards for uncertainty so is a conservative estimate. They also allow for £3.9bn reduction due to changes in behaviour. People can argue whether Trident is worth the money or the most suitable deterrent but all the time Corbyn is in charge they may as well remove that commitment. He has said on numerous occasions he won't use it
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Apart from the prospective Prime Minister wanting to get rid of it.
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
PM not dictator. This point has been covered. He doesn't unilaterally set policy or make decisions. Trident would be renewed without doubt under a Labour government. It is indicative of the detachment from reality of the new left that they think a leader can hold views that are diametrically opposed to his party's published policy.
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
It is indicative of the detachment from reality of the new left that they think a leader can hold views that are diametrically opposed to his party's published policy. Because he is a democrat and not a dictator
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