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Originally posted by matt_himself
And you are telling me there are no double standards in the Remain camp? Let's pick someone at random - Jeremy Corbyn. Did he even vote o stay in the EU? Nicola Sturgeon - seeking referendum after referendum until she gets what she wants. Also, the left is quite content to operate with double standards. The anti semitism row in Labour, Keith Vaz, Corbyn's declaration that MP's need to be loyal to their leader when there are a number of recorded incidents when Corbyn, as an MP, plotted against the leader of the party at the time. If you are calling out on hypocrisy, it's everywhere and not isolated to one party or ideology.
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Originally posted by matt_himself
If you are calling out on hypocrisy, it's everywhere and not isolated to one party or ideology. which was precisely my point...look forward to seeking some posts by you and Stirling etc calling it for what it is amongst the set of jokers and jerks that predominate in politics on the right...
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Originally posted by legaleagle
which was precisely my point...look forward to seeking some posts by you and Stirling etc calling it for what it is amongst the set of jokers and jerks that predominate in politics on the right... Whereas the left is packed with serious, thoughtful and credible people...
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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yes thats right (I mean left). On the right its a given that you have no integrity. On the left you have a social conscience at least.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
yes thats right (I mean left). On the right its a given that you have no integrity. On the left you have a social conscience at least. LOL
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Originally posted by steeleye20
yes thats right (I mean left). On the right its a given that you have no integrity. On the left you have a social conscience at least. I love the Iain Banks quote... "I’m not arguing there are no decent people in the Tory Party, but they’re like bits of sweetcorn in a turd; technically they’ve kept their integrity but they’re still embedded in shit."
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I love the Iain Banks quote... "I’m not arguing there are no decent people in the Tory Party, but they’re like bits of sweetcorn in a turd; technically they’ve kept their integrity but they’re still embedded in shit." :-) Sadly missed - I need a good new Sci Fi read.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I love the Iain Banks quote... "I’m not arguing there are no decent people in the Tory Party, but they’re like bits of sweetcorn in a turd; technically they’ve kept their integrity but they’re still embedded in shit." Depends on your definition of integrity? Are we talking Jeremy Corbyn type integrity? Terrorist mouthpiece? taking money from the Iranian government? Is that the definition of integrity.
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Depends on your definition of integrity? Are we talking Jeremy Corbyn type integrity? Terrorist mouthpiece? taking money from the Iranian government? Is that the definition of integrity. Is he a terrorist mouthpiece or are you not adding 2+2 together to make 5? You do know that The U.K now has an Iranian ambassador and vice versa. No integrity there? Edited by nickgusset (10 Sep 2016 8.11pm)
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Is he a terrorist mouthpiece or are you not adding 2+2 together to make 5? You do know that The U.K now has an Iranian ambassador and vice versa. No integrity there? Edited by nickgusset (10 Sep 2016 8.11pm) Do I really need to copy and paste the multitude of readily available quotes that both he and for that matter John McDonnell have made? Corbyn claimed that he went on state run Iranian tv to raise human rights and lgbt issues. There's no record that this ever happened. He Iirc also went on tv at the same time the government were torturing a journalist from that station. The station that ofcom banned He has also said that the £20k he got paid was for his constituency office. As far as I am aware in spite of saying he will, he is yet to prove that this was the case.
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Do I really need to copy and paste the multitude of readily available quotes that both he and for that matter John McDonnell have made? Corbyn claimed that he went on state run Iranian tv to raise human rights and lgbt issues. There's no record that this ever happened. He Iirc also went on tv at the same time the government were torturing a journalist from that station. The station that ofcom banned He has also said that the £20k he got paid was for his constituency office. As far as I am aware in spite of saying he will, he is yet to prove that this was the case. What did he say on Iranian TV then?
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Originally posted by steeleye20
yes thats right (I mean left). On the right its a given that you have no integrity. Wow....I mean just wow. You must be a teenager because you have a serious lack of knowledge about people or you just see what you want to see. Whatever side of the political world you look at....It has plenty of arseholes. I would have thought that was life 101.
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Word for wprd? As far as I am aware it was predominantly about Palestine Which given both Iran and corbyn's links with Hamas is hardly surprising. Human rights issues in Palestine? Not surprising considering the amount of work he's done in that arena.
"The wider question is Hamas and Hezbollah are part of a wider peace process. Even the former head of Mossad says that there has to be talks involving Hamas. "I've also had discussions with people from the right in Israeli politics who have the same view possibly that the state of Israel should extend from the river to the sea, as it is claimed people from the Palestinian side do.
Edited by nickgusset (10 Sep 2016 10.51pm)
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Human rights issues in Palestine? Not surprising considering the amount of work he's done in that arena.
"The wider question is Hamas and Hezbollah are part of a wider peace process. Even the former head of Mossad says that there has to be talks involving Hamas. "I've also had discussions with people from the right in Israeli politics who have the same view possibly that the state of Israel should extend from the river to the sea, as it is claimed people from the Palestinian side do.
Edited by nickgusset (10 Sep 2016 10.51pm) I will respond to your post tomorrow but as far as the ambassador comment goes he was appointed this year. Situations change or did you miss the thawing of relations last year?
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
I will respond to your post tomorrow but as far as the ambassador comment goes he was appointed this year. Situations change or did you miss the thawing of relations last year? Perhaps Corbyn helped pave the way for this. Edited by nickgusset (10 Sep 2016 11.36pm)
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I have struggled to find any record of Corbyn meeting Israeli government or even Jewish Israelis. If you can point me to any links I will give them a read. For someone who claims that his relationship with Hamas and Hezbollah are to promote peace, I find it unusual that meetings with the "other side " are so hard to find. Corbyn declined the opportunity to today visit the Yad Vashem Holocaust Museum after being invited by Isaac Herzog. This invite was sent months ago so he could have adjusted his diary if necessary. I did come across this, Corbyn's invite to Hate Preacher Raed Salah for tea on the terrace. Particularly galling is the language Corbyn uses to describe him
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Also more proof that Corbyn is incapable of being taken seriously on the world stage. There's always a "but" with Corbyn
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Also more proof that Corbyn is incapable of being taken seriously on the world stage. There's always a "but" with Corbyn Is he factually wrong?
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