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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 10 Sep 16 2.48pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

And you are telling me there are no double standards in the Remain camp?

Let's pick someone at random - Jeremy Corbyn. Did he even vote o stay in the EU? Nicola Sturgeon - seeking referendum after referendum until she gets what she wants.

Also, the left is quite content to operate with double standards. The anti semitism row in Labour, Keith Vaz, Corbyn's declaration that MP's need to be loyal to their leader when there are a number of recorded incidents when Corbyn, as an MP, plotted against the leader of the party at the time.

If you are calling out on hypocrisy, it's everywhere and not isolated to one party or ideology.


Double standards, everywhere, nature of life. You yourself have claimed not to be a mysoginist but have also said 'I would, but only if she found it humiliating and degrading'

 

legaleagle Flag 10 Sep 16 5.40pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

If you are calling out on hypocrisy, it's everywhere and not isolated to one party or ideology.

which was precisely my point...look forward to seeking some posts by you and Stirling etc calling it for what it is amongst the set of jokers and jerks that predominate in politics on the right...

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 10 Sep 16 5.48pm

Regardless of what side you took have you any confidence left in any politician at all after this vote?

A dreadful exhibition both sides were anti EU IMHO.

The pros were an advert for the antis.

 

matt_himself Flag Matataland 10 Sep 16 6.10pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

which was precisely my point...look forward to seeking some posts by you and Stirling etc calling it for what it is amongst the set of jokers and jerks that predominate in politics on the right...

Whereas the left is packed with serious, thoughtful and credible people...

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 10 Sep 16 6.26pm

yes thats right (I mean left).

On the right its a given that you have no integrity.

On the left you have a social conscience at least.

 

Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 10 Sep 16 6.55pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

yes thats right (I mean left).

On the right its a given that you have no integrity.

On the left you have a social conscience at least.

LOL

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 10 Sep 16 6.59pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

yes thats right (I mean left).

On the right its a given that you have no integrity.

On the left you have a social conscience at least.

I love the Iain Banks quote...

"I’m not arguing there are no decent people in the Tory Party, but they’re like bits of sweetcorn in a turd; technically they’ve kept their integrity but they’re still embedded in shit."

 

Mr_Gristle Flag In the land of Whelk Eaters 10 Sep 16 7.42pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

I love the Iain Banks quote...

"I’m not arguing there are no decent people in the Tory Party, but they’re like bits of sweetcorn in a turd; technically they’ve kept their integrity but they’re still embedded in shit."

:-)

Sadly missed - I need a good new Sci Fi read.

 


Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 10 Sep 16 7.57pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

I love the Iain Banks quote...

"I’m not arguing there are no decent people in the Tory Party, but they’re like bits of sweetcorn in a turd; technically they’ve kept their integrity but they’re still embedded in shit."

Depends on your definition of integrity? Are we talking Jeremy Corbyn type integrity? Terrorist mouthpiece? taking money from the Iranian government? Is that the definition of integrity.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 10 Sep 16 8.10pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Depends on your definition of integrity? Are we talking Jeremy Corbyn type integrity? Terrorist mouthpiece? taking money from the Iranian government? Is that the definition of integrity.

Is he a terrorist mouthpiece or are you not adding 2+2 together to make 5?

You do know that The U.K now has an Iranian ambassador and vice versa. No integrity there?

Edited by nickgusset (10 Sep 2016 8.11pm)

 

Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 10 Sep 16 8.45pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Is he a terrorist mouthpiece or are you not adding 2+2 together to make 5?

You do know that The U.K now has an Iranian ambassador and vice versa. No integrity there?

Edited by nickgusset (10 Sep 2016 8.11pm)

Do I really need to copy and paste the multitude of readily available quotes that both he and for that matter John McDonnell have made?

Corbyn claimed that he went on state run Iranian tv to raise human rights and lgbt issues. There's no record that this ever happened. He Iirc also went on tv at the same time the government were torturing a journalist from that station. The station that ofcom banned

He has also said that the £20k he got paid was for his constituency office. As far as I am aware in spite of saying he will, he is yet to prove that this was the case.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 10 Sep 16 9.28pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Do I really need to copy and paste the multitude of readily available quotes that both he and for that matter John McDonnell have made?

Corbyn claimed that he went on state run Iranian tv to raise human rights and lgbt issues. There's no record that this ever happened. He Iirc also went on tv at the same time the government were torturing a journalist from that station. The station that ofcom banned

He has also said that the £20k he got paid was for his constituency office. As far as I am aware in spite of saying he will, he is yet to prove that this was the case.

What did he say on Iranian TV then?


 

Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 10 Sep 16 9.35pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

What did he say on Iranian TV then?


Word for wprd?

As far as I am aware it was predominantly about Palestine Which given both Iran and corbyn's links with Hamas is hardly surprising.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 10 Sep 16 9.57pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

yes thats right (I mean left).

On the right its a given that you have no integrity.

On the left you have a social conscience at least.

Wow....I mean just wow.

You must be a teenager because you have a serious lack of knowledge about people or you just see what you want to see.

Whatever side of the political world you look at....It has plenty of arseholes.

I would have thought that was life 101.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 10 Sep 16 10.43pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Word for wprd?

As far as I am aware it was predominantly about Palestine Which given both Iran and corbyn's links with Hamas is hardly surprising.

Human rights issues in Palestine? Not surprising considering the amount of work he's done in that arena.
The same Hamas that the Jewish state helped form to get rid of the PLO?


Corbyn on meeting Hamas...


"I spoke at a meeting about the Middle East crisis in parliament and there were people there from Hezbollah and I said I welcomed our friends from Hezbollah to have a discussion and a debate, and I said I wanted Hamas to be part of that debate. I have met Hamas in Lebanon and I've met Hezbollah in this country and Lebanon.

"The wider question is Hamas and Hezbollah are part of a wider peace process. Even the former head of Mossad says that there has to be talks involving Hamas.

"I've also had discussions with people from the right in Israeli politics who have the same view possibly that the state of Israel should extend from the river to the sea, as it is claimed people from the Palestinian side do.

[Link]


I note you haven't commented on the fact we now have an Iranian ambassador. It's OK for this but not for Corbyn to strike a dialogue.

Edited by nickgusset (10 Sep 2016 10.51pm)

 

Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 10 Sep 16 10.53pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Human rights issues in Palestine? Not surprising considering the amount of work he's done in that arena.
The same Hamas that the Jewish state helped form to get rid of the PLO?


Corbyn on meeting Hamas...


"I spoke at a meeting about the Middle East crisis in parliament and there were people there from Hezbollah and I said I welcomed our friends from Hezbollah to have a discussion and a debate, and I said I wanted Hamas to be part of that debate. I have met Hamas in Lebanon and I've met Hezbollah in this country and Lebanon.

"The wider question is Hamas and Hezbollah are part of a wider peace process. Even the former head of Mossad says that there has to be talks involving Hamas.

"I've also had discussions with people from the right in Israeli politics who have the same view possibly that the state of Israel should extend from the river to the sea, as it is claimed people from the Palestinian side do.

[Link]


I note you haven't commented on the fact we now have an Iranian ambassador. It's OK for this but not for Corbyn to strike a dialogue.

Edited by nickgusset (10 Sep 2016 10.51pm)

I will respond to your post tomorrow but as far as the ambassador comment goes he was appointed this year. Situations change or did you miss the thawing of relations last year?

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 10 Sep 16 11.35pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

I will respond to your post tomorrow but as far as the ambassador comment goes he was appointed this year. Situations change or did you miss the thawing of relations last year?

Perhaps Corbyn helped pave the way for this.

Edited by nickgusset (10 Sep 2016 11.36pm)

 

Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 11 Sep 16 4.09pm

I have struggled to find any record of Corbyn meeting Israeli government or even Jewish Israelis. If you can point me to any links I will give them a read.

For someone who claims that his relationship with Hamas and Hezbollah are to promote peace, I find it unusual that meetings with the "other side " are so hard to find.

Corbyn declined the opportunity to today visit the Yad Vashem Holocaust Museum after being invited by Isaac Herzog. This invite was sent months ago so he could have adjusted his diary if necessary.

I did come across this, Corbyn's invite to Hate Preacher Raed Salah for tea on the terrace. Particularly galling is the language Corbyn uses to describe him
[Link]

 


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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 11 Sep 16 4.25pm

Also more proof that Corbyn is incapable of being taken seriously on the world stage.

There's always a "but" with Corbyn

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 11 Sep 16 6.06pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Also more proof that Corbyn is incapable of being taken seriously on the world stage.

There's always a "but" with Corbyn

Is he factually wrong?

 

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