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hedgehog50 Croydon 24 May 17 10.05am
Originally posted by VeganPower Because he is a democrat and not a dictator Well he clearly is not a leader in the real sense of the word. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 24 May 17 10.05am

Originally posted by VeganPower

Because he is a democrat and not a dictator

Well he clearly is not a leader in the real sense of the word.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 24 May 17 10.13am
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch People can argue whether Trident is worth the money or the most suitable deterrent but all the time Corbyn is in charge they may as well remove that commitment. He has said on numerous occasions he won't use it I'm fairly sure he actually said he couldn't envisage a scenario in which he would use it and that he wouldn't be the one to use it first (not that he would never use it). By envisaging such a scenario I'm talking about him thinking it's unlikely to come to such a situation and his main concern is negotiation of peace and worldwide nuclear disarmament, which would be a significantly better scenario than the status quo.

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 24 May 17 10.13am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

People can argue whether Trident is worth the money or the most suitable deterrent but all the time Corbyn is in charge they may as well remove that commitment. He has said on numerous occasions he won't use it

I'm fairly sure he actually said he couldn't envisage a scenario in which he would use it and that he wouldn't be the one to use it first (not that he would never use it). By envisaging such a scenario I'm talking about him thinking it's unlikely to come to such a situation and his main concern is negotiation of peace and worldwide nuclear disarmament, which would be a significantly better scenario than the status quo.

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 24 May 17 10.16am
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Well he clearly is not a leader in the real sense of the word. What like Kim Jong-May you mean? I'd rather have someone willing to compromise on his own beliefs when setting nationally beneficial policy than the "dear leader" who is running an election as if this was a dictatorship.

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 24 May 17 10.16am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Well he clearly is not a leader in the real sense of the word.

What like Kim Jong-May you mean?

I'd rather have someone willing to compromise on his own beliefs when setting nationally beneficial policy than the "dear leader" who is running an election as if this was a dictatorship.

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 24 May 17 10.19am
Originally posted by hedgehog50 It is indicative of the detachment from reality of the new left that they think a leader can hold views that are diametrically opposed to his party's published policy. Published policy is a fact. It's in the manifesto, which has been published. We all know Corbyn isn't a fan of renewing trident. The manifesto (publish policy remember) states clearly a commitment to renew trident. QED. A party leader does currently (and therefore is able to) hold views "diametrically opposed to his party's published policy".

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 24 May 17 10.19am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

It is indicative of the detachment from reality of the new left that they think a leader can hold views that are diametrically opposed to his party's published policy.

Published policy is a fact. It's in the manifesto, which has been published.

We all know Corbyn isn't a fan of renewing trident.

The manifesto (publish policy remember) states clearly a commitment to renew trident.

QED. A party leader does currently (and therefore is able to) hold views "diametrically opposed to his party's published policy".

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 May 17 10.29am
Back to Theresa. She is rubbish! [Tweet Link]

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 24 May 17 10.29am

Back to Theresa. She is rubbish!

[Tweet Link]

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 May 17 10.37am
Amber Rudd says we will not allow the terrorists to change our way of life. So why not immediately resume the election campaign?

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 24 May 17 10.37am

Amber Rudd says we will not allow the terrorists to change our way of life. So why not immediately resume the election campaign?

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 24 May 17 10.38am
Originally posted by nickgusset Back to Theresa. She is rubbish! [Tweet Link] This is what happens when you call an election you don't think you can possibly lose and so think you don't need to bother coming up with anything like decent policies or costings for the tripe you do come up with. Weak and wobbly. Also her claims of record health spending - record was in 2009. Her claims are on a nominal basis. On a real basis spending has gone down under this government. Whatsmore, the needs have increased so the gap has widened. Weak and wobbly... and a liar.

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 24 May 17 10.38am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Back to Theresa. She is rubbish!

[Tweet Link]

This is what happens when you call an election you don't think you can possibly lose and so think you don't need to bother coming up with anything like decent policies or costings for the tripe you do come up with.

Weak and wobbly.

Also her claims of record health spending - record was in 2009. Her claims are on a nominal basis. On a real basis spending has gone down under this government. Whatsmore, the needs have increased so the gap has widened.

Weak and wobbly... and a liar.

VeganPower Chesham 24 May 17 10.39am
Theresa refuses to answer questions. Don't believe me. Watch any interview with her. 22 years eating a vegan diet. Perfectly happy and healthy on it.

VeganPower

Chesham 24 May 17 10.39am

Theresa refuses to answer questions. Don't believe me. Watch any interview with her.

22 years eating a vegan diet. Perfectly happy and healthy on it.

VeganPower Chesham 24 May 17 10.40am
40% of homeless people have jobs, how sick is that? 22 years eating a vegan diet. Perfectly happy and healthy on it.

VeganPower

Chesham 24 May 17 10.40am

40% of homeless people have jobs, how sick is that?

22 years eating a vegan diet. Perfectly happy and healthy on it.

VeganPower Chesham 24 May 17 10.43am
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Well he clearly is not a leader in the real sense of the word. he is a democratic leader, he doesn't always get his way 22 years eating a vegan diet. Perfectly happy and healthy on it.

VeganPower

Chesham 24 May 17 10.43am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Well he clearly is not a leader in the real sense of the word.

he is a democratic leader, he doesn't always get his way

22 years eating a vegan diet. Perfectly happy and healthy on it.

steeleye20 Croydon 24 May 17 12.20pm
Originally posted by VeganPower he is a democratic leader, he doesn't always get his way People forget the existing Trident can operate for 15 years more. If Corbyn gets elected there will be a strategic defence renew and it is to be hoped that there will be far more scrutiny than Mrs May managed.

steeleye20

Croydon 24 May 17 12.20pm

Originally posted by VeganPower

he is a democratic leader, he doesn't always get his way

People forget the existing Trident can operate for 15 years more.

If Corbyn gets elected there will be a strategic defence renew and it is to be hoped that there will be far more scrutiny than Mrs May managed.

dannyb1 Chichester 24 May 17 12.41pm
It seems May is doing quite well in narrowing her lead in the polls and making an "un-electable man" the next PM. Long may she continue (until June 8th)

dannyb1

Chichester 24 May 17 12.41pm

It seems May is doing quite well in narrowing her lead in the polls and making an "un-electable man" the next PM.

Long may she continue (until June 8th)

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 May 17 4.59pm
Police Federation: We wouldn’t need soldiers on the streets if the Government stopped police cuts [Link]

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 24 May 17 4.59pm

Police Federation: We wouldn’t need soldiers on the streets if the Government stopped police cuts

[Link]

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 24 May 17 5.45pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Police Federation: We wouldn’t need soldiers on the streets if the Government stopped police cuts [Link] As Home Secretary, Theresa May accused the Police Federation of “crying wolf” and “scaremongering” over the impact of the Government’s cuts. The nasty supreme leader of the nasty party. Certainly looking pretty weak and wobbly right now.

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 24 May 17 5.45pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Police Federation: We wouldn’t need soldiers on the streets if the Government stopped police cuts

[Link]

As Home Secretary, Theresa May accused the Police Federation of “crying wolf” and “scaremongering” over the impact of the Government’s cuts.

The nasty supreme leader of the nasty party. Certainly looking pretty weak and wobbly right now.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 May 17 5.50pm
No one here defending May I notice.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 24 May 17 5.50pm

No one here defending May I notice.

Hrolf The Ganger 24 May 17 5.54pm
Originally posted by nickgusset No one here defending May I notice. Just bored with your tosh. Only lame brains believe propaganda anyway.

Hrolf The Ganger

24 May 17 5.54pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

No one here defending May I notice.

Just bored with your tosh.

Only lame brains believe propaganda anyway.

Stirlingsays 24 May 17 6.01pm
Originally posted by nickgusset No one here defending May I notice. It's improved towards the end but I don't think it will be a patch on Jone. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

24 May 17 6.01pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

No one here defending May I notice.

It's improved towards the end but I don't think it will be a patch on Jone.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 24 May 17 6.02pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Just bored with your tosh. Only lame brains believe propaganda anyway. Lots of lame brains around. Someone on the train right now is going on about how taking control of our borders will stop another Manchester bombing. Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

Mr_Gristle

In the land of Whelk Eaters 24 May 17 6.02pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Just bored with your tosh.

Only lame brains believe propaganda anyway.

Lots of lame brains around. Someone on the train right now is going on about how taking control of our borders will stop another Manchester bombing.

Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 May 17 6.06pm
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 24 May 17 6.06pm

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Stirlingsays 24 May 17 6.07pm
Originally posted by Mr_Gristle Lots of lame brains around. Someone on the train right now is going on about how taking control of our borders will stop another Manchester bombing. They are just understandably angry and looking for answers. When their leaders won't provide any they will formulate their own. The problem is here. Edited by Stirlingsays (24 May 2017 6.10pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

24 May 17 6.07pm

Originally posted by Mr_Gristle

Lots of lame brains around. Someone on the train right now is going on about how taking control of our borders will stop another Manchester bombing.

They are just understandably angry and looking for answers. When their leaders won't provide any they will formulate their own.

The problem is here.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 May 2017 6.10pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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