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 matt_himself  Matataland 24 May 17 8.02pm |
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Originally posted by Mr_Gristle
Wrong. I post about what I see as the manipulation of what you call British Thought by those with agendas that aren't in the interests of those being manipulated. As for a plan, tighter controls on online material directly referencing extremist views and tracking of access to that material would be a start. As would getting out of any involvement (that includes arming and training) in the killing of children in, say, Yemen or Syria. I'd also stop pandering to Qatar, Saudi and the like and start a programme of Gibraltar-style operations to kill the key promulgators of extreme violent hate. One wonders why our governments allow terrorist armies to operate in plain sight and then cry crocodile tears when those sharing the terrorists' worldview kill people much closer to home. Over to you. Edited by Mr_Gristle (24 May 2017 7.05pm) So, as Stirling said, nothing. 'Stop pandering to Qatar, Saudi and the like and start a programme of Gibraltar-style operations' is so vague and nonsensical, it beggars belief.
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| Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 24 May 17 8.04pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
So, as Stirling said, nothing. 'Stop pandering to Qatar, Saudi and the like and start a programme of Gibraltar-style operations' is so vague and nonsensical, it beggars belief. You indeed are Theresa May and I claim my £5. Please note that I am available for manifesto-writing work as I clearly fit the requirements for vagueness you are so keen on.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 24 May 17 8.16pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Amber Rudd says we will not allow the terrorists to change our way of life. So why not immediately resume the election campaign? If they had carried on as usual, you would have complained and you are complaining because they suspended campaigning. You know it and we all know it. You are trying to make political gain out of the death of children.
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| matt_himself Matataland 24 May 17 8.16pm |
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Originally posted by Mr_Gristle
You indeed are Theresa May and I claim my £5. Please note that I am available for manifesto-writing work as I clearly fit the requirements for vagueness you are so keen on. No, you talk bollocks. Your 'three point plan' is garbled nonsense. Go back and read it. You must be a bit embarrassed by it.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 May 17 8.18pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
If they had carried on as usual, you would have complained and you are complaining because they suspended campaigning. You know it and we all know it. You are trying to make political gain out of the death of children. No I'm not. False accusation. Please retract. I agree with suspension of election campaigning for a day. Any longer then democracy is the loser and the terrorists have won Edited by nickgusset (24 May 2017 8.21pm)
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| Stirlingsays 24 May 17 8.20pm |
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Originally posted by Mr_Gristle
Thanks for the easy to access summary :-) Closing ALL religious schools is something I'd love to see happen, and I went to Catholic schools. Hmm. The "friendly" Islamic countries are the ones exporting the hatred, so not sure about that. I agree on the principle of revocation of UK access rights / status upon conviction of certain offences, although that would be tough to implement more widely. Wouldn't hurt to try. However, how do you start to define a "British Way of Life" test and ensure it's universal? Where do you deport a fail if they are nothing other than a British national? I'd set the bar at "anyone owning a Real Madrid, Barcelona or Bayern Munich shirt" for example. No tests, all based upon evidence collected by security services and before a court of law. But once a record is there a far easier way through the courts to deport and strip nationality. You say Islamic countries export the hate.....well...who better to send them back to. A nice little feedback loop. Radicalization here should have a consequence. Besides this is their problem, none of these countries support attacks on us. Fundamentalists here need to be made to make a choice, live your life peacefully here or live it within an assigned Islamic country which we will pay to take you......and personally I don't care after that. That's what should happen to people like Anthony Small, who I followed for a time on Youtube. Edited by Stirlingsays (24 May 2017 8.22pm)
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| Hrolf The Ganger 24 May 17 8.21pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
No I'm not. False accusation. Please retract. When you explain to me why it's not true.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 24 May 17 8.26pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
No I'm not. False accusation. Please retract. I agree with suspension of election campaigning for a day. Any longer then democracy is the loser and the terrorists have won Edited by nickgusset (24 May 2017 8.21pm) You are still using the bombing to criticise the government. At a time when we need solidarity that is poor.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 24 May 17 8.29pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
To be fair to Corbyn, I think a low key restart on Friday is fair enough. He agreed to May's request for an election and an opposition deserves its chance to convince regardless of what I think of it. Of course but the government is in a no win situation on this.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 May 17 8.29pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
When you explain to me why it's not true. Because he states that it isn't a false flag and rails against those that do.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 May 17 8.31pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You are still using the bombing to criticise the government. At a time when we need solidarity that is poor. Should the government be beyond criticism because people died?
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 24 May 17 8.35pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Should the government be beyond criticism because people died? Once that facts are known then no of course not. Howeverat the moment the left are using things they disagree with as a reason why Monday happened without a shred of evidence. They are politicising the tragedy more than needs be
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| Hrolf The Ganger 24 May 17 8.35pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Because he states that it isn't a false flag and rails against those that do. That didn't stop you implying that it could be true. You didn't exactly condemn the idea. I'm prepared to entertain any theory but unlike you, I'm not going to have a dig at May and then play innocent.
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| Stirlingsays 24 May 17 8.37pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Of course but the government is in a no win situation on this. Yep it's not easy.....Gauging the appropriate time....you are always going to upset people. I imagine security is going to be upped on voting day....Even so another easy target. No brainer for the twisted fecks.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 May 17 8.39pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
That didn't stop you implying that it could be true. You didn't exactly condemn the idea. I'm prepared to entertain any theory but unlike you, I'm not going to have a dig at May and then play innocent. Nor did I say I thought it was true.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 24 May 17 8.44pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Nor did I say I thought it was true. No you didn't. But you did go to great lengths to suggest that the article didn't say it was untrue. Slippery.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 May 17 8.49pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
No you didn't. But you did go to great lengths to suggest that the article didn't say it was untrue. Slippery. Really. You are making things up. Anyway, back to the election.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 24 May 17 10.02pm |
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Now why would I need to do that when you provide so much material to hang yourself with.
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| Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 24 May 17 10.49pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
No, you talk bollocks. Your 'three point plan' is garbled nonsense. Go back and read it. You must be a bit embarrassed by it. Nope, not at all. I'm not presenting it as a panacea for the problems faced by the UK. I object to the influence the gulf states have over this country and I fail to see why known enablers of murder shouldn't be shot. Those are personal views I will stand by. That's enough troll food for one night, can't have you gorging yourself and placing a strain on the NHS.
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