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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 19 Sep 16 4.08pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Possibly but don't you find it worrying that a political group, of any colour is doing this?

What? Organising a creche so that more people (parents) can attend meetings and conferences?

It's a facking outrage!

From Alan Gibbons, award winning childrens' author...

Momentum Kids has been set up to help politically active parents with childcare activities. There are some activities at The World Transformed this weekend and I am doing some story-telling. (Trotsky does not feature, but a gorilla does). Amid the Tiny Trots nonsense from the Lib Dem leader Tim Farron, this is what I actually said, quoted in the Mail:
'Children’s author Alan Gibbons, a supporter of Momentum Kids, said: ‘Socialists are not just people who organise in the Labour Party, trade unions or campaigns.
‘As young people grow, they need stories, poems, songs, drama and play to develop as complete human beings. An education system that treats them only as future productive drones develops only part of their personality.
‘We believe that children are naturally inquisitive and creative and we seek to develop that potential in the hope that a new, freer society, more responsive to human need, will fulfil their hopes, dreams and aspiration to the full.’

Edited by nickgusset (19 Sep 2016 4.13pm)

 

OknotOK Flag Cockfosters, London 19 Sep 16 4.11pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

What? Organising a creche so that more people (parents) can attend meetings and conferences?

It's a facking outrage!

It isn't just a creche. It is also "political activities" for children. There is definitely a hint of sinister about it, even if not a reflection of reality.

 


"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

Stuk Flag Top half 19 Sep 16 5.19pm

Organisers of Momentum Kids, which hopes to expand across the group's 150 local branches, said it would "create a space for questioning, curious children where we can listen to them and give them a voice".

That should read, and tell them what to think.

 


Optimistic as ever

Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 19 Sep 16 6.00pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

What? Organising a creche so that more people (parents) can attend meetings and conferences?

It's a facking outrage!

From Alan Gibbons, award winning childrens' author...

Momentum Kids has been set up to help politically active parents with childcare activities. There are some activities at The World Transformed this weekend and I am doing some story-telling. (Trotsky does not feature, but a gorilla does). Amid the Tiny Trots nonsense from the Lib Dem leader Tim Farron, this is what I actually said, quoted in the Mail:
'Children’s author Alan Gibbons, a supporter of Momentum Kids, said: ‘Socialists are not just people who organise in the Labour Party, trade unions or campaigns.
‘As young people grow, they need stories, poems, songs, drama and play to develop as complete human beings. An education system that treats them only as future productive drones develops only part of their personality.
‘We believe that children are naturally inquisitive and creative and we seek to develop that potential in the hope that a new, freer society, more responsive to human need, will fulfil their hopes, dreams and aspiration to the full.’

Edited by nickgusset (19 Sep 2016 4.13pm)


[Link]

The new group is also aimed at “increasing children’s involvement in Momentum and the labour movement by promoting political activity that is fun, engaging and child-friendly”


When Britain First start doing the same I will await your same balanced view

 


the dignified don't even enter in the game

NickinOX Flag Sailing country. 19 Sep 16 6.14pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

What? Organising a creche so that more people (parents) can attend meetings and conferences?

It's a facking outrage!

From Alan Gibbons, award winning childrens' author...

Momentum Kids has been set up to help politically active parents with childcare activities. There are some activities at The World Transformed this weekend and I am doing some story-telling. (Trotsky does not feature, but a gorilla does). Amid the Tiny Trots nonsense from the Lib Dem leader Tim Farron, this is what I actually said, quoted in the Mail:
'Children’s author Alan Gibbons, a supporter of Momentum Kids, said: ‘Socialists are not just people who organise in the Labour Party, trade unions or campaigns.
‘As young people grow, they need stories, poems, songs, drama and play to develop as complete human beings. An education system that treats them only as future productive drones develops only part of their personality.
‘We believe that children are naturally inquisitive and creative and we seek to develop that potential in the hope that a new, freer society, more responsive to human need, will fulfil their hopes, dreams and aspiration to the full.’

Edited by nickgusset (19 Sep 2016 4.13pm)

How Strength Through Joy or Komsomol like...

I found a picture of Momentum Kids (at least I think it is) on page 11.

[Link]

 


If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

Mr_Gristle Flag In the land of Whelk Eaters 19 Sep 16 9.11pm

Originally posted by OknotOK

It isn't just a creche. It is also "political activities" for children. There is definitely a hint of sinister about it, even if not a reflection of reality.

As far as brainwashing goes, maybe they've had enough of the Disney Channel / X Factor / endless adverts on children's non-BBC channels and decided that if you can't beat them, join them.

 


Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

Hoof Hearted 20 Sep 16 10.02am

So... we've got the British Muslim kids being brainwashed by ideological Imams at illegal faith schools to kill the non believers when they get old enough to do so.

Now we've got a generation of Momentum kids being brainwashed at creches by the Corbynistas to believe in communism and to rise up and fight against the "system" when they get old enough to do so.

What a lovely place the UK is shaping up to be in the not too distant future.... unless of course we nip it in the bud now.

 

dannyh Flag wherever I lay my hat....... 20 Sep 16 10.16am

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

So... we've got the British Muslim kids being brainwashed by ideological Imams at illegal faith schools to kill the non believers when they get old enough to do so.

Now we've got a generation of Momentum kids being brainwashed at creches by the Corbynistas to believe in communism and to rise up and fight against the "system" when they get old enough to do so.

What a lovely place the UK is shaping up to be in the not too distant future.... unless of course we nip it in the bud now.

No different to Sunday school in my book hoof old bean. My kids go to the local community center every Sunday for what is advertised at "Messy Church" my three love it because they can round around eat cake and drink fizzy drinks with a sugar content high enough to rot tooth enamel just by being in the same post code. All their mates go and they just pissball about. But in the background is the church with it's banners, story time (which is bible time) and they all leave after 2 hours of intense sugar rushes with a pamphlet all about the great sky monkey.

No difference to this and the Corbyn idiots in my book, at least they are teaching something that has a base (albeit an utterly deplorable base) in reality.

Edited by dannyh (20 Sep 2016 10.17am)

 


"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

We are goin up! Flag Coulsdon 20 Sep 16 11.03am

Really not worried by the Corbyn lot trying to infiltrate kids. Most children rebel against what people tell them once they get to teenage years. The education system is chock full of namby pamby lefties for teachers and yet the country is still basically conservative.

 


The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

Hoof Hearted 20 Sep 16 11.04am

Originally posted by dannyh

No different to Sunday school in my book hoof old bean. My kids go to the local community center every Sunday for what is advertised at "Messy Church" my three love it because they can round around eat cake and drink fizzy drinks with a sugar content high enough to rot tooth enamel just by being in the same post code. All their mates go and they just pissball about. But in the background is the church with it's banners, story time (which is bible time) and they all leave after 2 hours of intense sugar rushes with a pamphlet all about the great sky monkey.

No difference to this and the Corbyn idiots in my book, at least they are teaching something that has a base (albeit an utterly deplorable base) in reality.

Edited by dannyh (20 Sep 2016 10.17am)

I was forced to go to Sunday School with my brothers and sisters.

My eldest sister told us littluns one week that Mum/Dad were going to bed and wanted us out of the house for a few hours. They weren't interested in us getting religious teachings.

So we decided to go the Grange/Beddington Park and hire a rowing boat and buy an ice-cream with the money given to us to put in the collection plate.

Therein lies the difference danny.

 

dannyh Flag wherever I lay my hat....... 20 Sep 16 11.18am

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

I was forced to go to Sunday School with my brothers and sisters.

My eldest sister told us littluns one week that Mum/Dad were going to bed and wanted us out of the house for a few hours. They weren't interested in us getting religious teachings.

So we decided to go the Grange/Beddington Park and hire a rowing boat and buy an ice-cream with the money given to us to put in the collection plate.

Therein lies the difference danny.

hmmmm not really you weren't MADE to go to Sunday School, however I was made to go to a Catholic School, was MADE to go to MASS every week at least once, was MADE to go to Catechism classes every Friday after school for about a year for communion, none of which I wanted to bloody do. And I'm not alone this happens all over the world to billions and billions of kids oin the name of Christianity, you were just lucky your parents didn't give a s***, billions do.

So like I said no difference between being made to go to church, and being made to support Corbyn, and as much as I despise him and his ilk, he is at least a real person, not a figment of imagination with no historical PROOF he ever even existed other than a book written by people who were still using their hand (sand Andrex) to wipe their own sh1tty bumholes.

Do you see where I'm coming from ?

 


"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

Hoof Hearted 20 Sep 16 11.28am

Originally posted by dannyh

hmmmm not really you weren't MADE to go to Sunday School, however I was made to go to a Catholic School, was MADE to go to MASS every week at least once, was MADE to go to Catechism classes every Friday after school for about a year for communion, none of which I wanted to bloody do. And I'm not alone this happens all over the world to billions and billions of kids oin the name of Christianity, you were just lucky your parents didn't give a s***, billions do.

So like I said no difference between being made to go to church, and being made to support Corbyn, and as much as I despise him and his ilk, he is at least a real person, not a figment of imagination with no historical PROOF he ever even existed other than a book written by people who were still using their hand (sand Andrex) to wipe their own sh1tty bumholes.

Do you see where I'm coming from ?

Yes I see where you're coming from danny.

Forcing anyone however young to be religious, political, sexist, etc. is wrong.

And as you say the Bible and other religious manuals are really just works of fiction designed to control minds and create harmony in the world but end up having the opposite effect.

 

OknotOK Flag Cockfosters, London 20 Sep 16 11.29am

Originally posted by dannyh

hmmmm not really you weren't MADE to go to Sunday School, however I was made to go to a Catholic School, was MADE to go to MASS every week at least once, was MADE to go to Catechism classes every Friday after school for about a year for communion, none of which I wanted to bloody do. And I'm not alone this happens all over the world to billions and billions of kids oin the name of Christianity, you were just lucky your parents didn't give a s***, billions do.

So like I said no difference between being made to go to church, and being made to support Corbyn, and as much as I despise him and his ilk, he is at least a real person, not a figment of imagination with no historical PROOF he ever even existed other than a book written by people who were still using their hand (sand Andrex) to wipe their own sh1tty bumholes.

Do you see where I'm coming from ?

I've just started sending my kids to the local primary school - which we've been on the waiting list for for about 3 years.

It's a CoE school. I'm not worried about my 8 year old, she takes it all with a pinch of salt and comes home and we laugh about some of it.

My 4 year old only started last week and she's already coming home singing songs about "My God" being great etc. Brainwashing starts early in the church.

 


"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

Hoof Hearted 20 Sep 16 11.36am

Originally posted by OknotOK

I've just started sending my kids to the local primary school - which we've been on the waiting list for for about 3 years.

It's a CoE school. I'm not worried about my 8 year old, she takes it all with a pinch of salt and comes home and we laugh about some of it.

My 4 year old only started last week and she's already coming home singing songs about "My God" being great etc. Brainwashing starts early in the church.

I doubt that your 4 year old or 8 year old kids are being taught to kill non Christians though?

I must confess that I haven't read much of the Bible and what I did read was probably about 50 years ago so I might be wrong?

 

dannyh Flag wherever I lay my hat....... 20 Sep 16 11.36am

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Yes I see where you're coming from danny.

Forcing anyone however young to be religious, political, sexist, etc. is wrong.

And as you say the Bible and other religious manuals are really just works of fiction designed to control minds and create harmony in the world but end up having the opposite effect.

Correctamundo !

So in my eyes what the deluded champagne socialists are doing with their kids is equally as, stupid, archaic, dumb, narrow minded, pathetic, tedious, and just plain f***ing wrong as any parent brainwashing their child into believing what ever particular brand of cloud monkey they prefer. Maybe just a smidgen less as at least Corbyn (no matter how much of an utter tool he is) is a real person.

But then so was Hitler and I would argue in that case maybe following a completely make believe God, was preferable to an utterly despicable real life person, so all in all swings and roundabouts.

But in summary MAKING kids follow anything rather than giving them to tools to make decisions on their own, is undeniably brain washing.

Much like me insisting my three kids support Palace or find another home to live in

 


"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

OknotOK Flag Cockfosters, London 20 Sep 16 11.42am

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

I doubt that your 4 year old or 8 year old kids are being taught to kill non Christians though?

I must confess that I haven't read much of the Bible and what I did read was probably about 50 years ago so I might be wrong?

Neither are kids at the Corbyn Creche being taught to murder capitalists?

 


"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

johnfirewall Flag 20 Sep 16 11.54am

More than enough leftie indoctrination in schools already thanks, looking at the nature of most teachers I know.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 20 Sep 16 11.56am

I was genuinely annoyed upon hearing this story.

It is unethical to target children politically. There is no excuse to include politics when helping people.

I would be incandescent with rage if these people tried to influence my children. Being a teacher I already know the political problems that come with lefty teachers pushing their messages onto children.

So many people think that institutions are ethical.....Are they feck!

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Sep 16 12.01pm

Originally posted by johnfirewall

More than enough leftie indoctrination in schools already thanks, looking at the nature of most teachers I know.

My wife was a teacher for 35 years and through her I met many "Lefties" with whom I had many a heated discussion.Talk about polarised opinions ! My daughter is currently a teacher.
Neither my wife or daughter are "Lefties" !


 

Hoof Hearted 20 Sep 16 12.21pm

Originally posted by OknotOK

Neither are kids at the Corbyn Creche being taught to murder capitalists?

You'd hope not... but I'll bet they are taught not to just accept democratic decisions but strike, protest, damage property, intimidate and rebel against authority until they get their way though.

 

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