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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 24 May 17 11.21pm

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Strong and stable helped make us weak and open to atrocities.

 

CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 24 May 17 11.55pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

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Strong and stable helped make us weak and open to atrocities.

It does feel like it's starting to unravel. Dementia tax debacle plus cuts in all public services starting to show their damaging impact. Weak and wobbly.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 25 May 17 12.03am

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

It does feel like it's starting to unravel. Dementia tax debacle plus cuts in all public services starting to show their damaging impact. Weak and wobbly.

'Starting to unravel'.....Oh man, you do make me laugh.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 25 May 17 12.58am

Originally posted by nickgusset

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Strong and stable helped make us weak and open to atrocities.

Nothing at all to do with Blair, Mandelson, & Straw opening the floodgates of course?

 


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matt_himself Flag Matataland 25 May 17 7.10am

Originally posted by Mr_Gristle

Nope, not at all. I'm not presenting it as a panacea for the problems faced by the UK. I object to the influence the gulf states have over this country and I fail to see why known enablers of murder shouldn't be shot.

Those are personal views I will stand by.

That's enough troll food for one night, can't have you gorging yourself and placing a strain on the NHS.

You are not presenting anything that will stop terrorism. It is politically driven drivel that highlights your disjointed and simple view of the world.

Nice little dig at the end. Shame it's bollocks.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself Flag Matataland 25 May 17 7.11am

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

It does feel like it's starting to unravel. Dementia tax debacle plus cuts in all public services starting to show their damaging impact. Weak and wobbly.

When Labour make serious progress in Scotland and are likely to get 20 plus seats there, then we'll judge the Tories as 'weak and wobbly'.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 25 May 17 7.25am

Originally posted by Jimenez

Nothing at all to do with Blair, Mandelson, & Straw opening the floodgates of course?

A key function of statesmanship should be to provide against preventable evils. Governments for many years have taken the view that if only people could be stopped talking about it, it probably wouldn't happen. They knowingly shirk it, deserve, and increasingly receive, the curses of those who come after.

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 25 May 17 8.24am

Originally posted by matt_himself

When Labour make serious progress in Scotland and are likely to get 20 plus seats there, then we'll judge the Tories as 'weak and wobbly'.

Tories weak and wobbly independent of what Labour are doing.

EU 27 already legally locked in to not discussing a trade deal until after divorce settlement, citizens rights and Irish border are settled. David Davis has already lost the "row of the summer". Weak and wobbly.

 

Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 25 May 17 8.30am

Tories now allegedly backtracking on school breakfasts

We really could end up with Jezza at this rate

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the dignified don't even enter in the game

matt_himself Flag Matataland 25 May 17 8.30am

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Tories weak and wobbly independent of what Labour are doing.

EU 27 already legally locked in to not discussing a trade deal until after divorce settlement, citizens rights and Irish border are settled. David Davis has already lost the "row of the summer". Weak and wobbly.

They will still win and have a majority.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 25 May 17 8.32am

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Tories weak and wobbly independent of what Labour are doing.

EU 27 already legally locked in to not discussing a trade deal until after divorce settlement, citizens rights and Irish border are settled. David Davis has already lost the "row of the summer". Weak and wobbly.

You must be very proud of the long tradition of communist subversion in Cambridge.

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 25 May 17 8.59am

Originally posted by matt_himself

They will still win and have a majority.

Still 2 weeks to go so hopefully we can avoid such a crisis. They are the party of lies, flip-flopping, u-turns, backsliding, smokescreens, cuts, foodbanks, stagnating wages, increasing the debt, taking consumer debt back to record dangerous levels, no plan for Brexit.

Weak and wobbly. A vote for Tories is a vote for uncertainty (manifesto not costed and u-turns aplenty, plus no realism or genuine cooperative leadership on Brexit). It's a vote for more cuts to public services. It's a vote for the grossly unfair dementia tax. It's a vote for instability in our security. It's a vote for diminishing workers rights and tax cuts for the wealthy. It's a vote for a weak economy and a wobbly (dear) leader.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 25 May 17 9.01am

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Tories weak and wobbly independent of what Labour are doing.

EU 27 already legally locked in to not discussing a trade deal until after divorce settlement, citizens rights and Irish border are settled. David Davis has already lost the "row of the summer". Weak and wobbly.

For alleged 'former Tories' like you I've long since come to understand that up is down.

Perhaps you should write a blog. Nick could read it then.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 25 May 17 9.07am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

You must be very proud of the long tradition of communist subversion in Cambridge.

Brilliant comeback in what is meant to be a discussion of the merits of the various options on offer in this election and the issues involved.

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Tories have their heads in the sand over Brexit and can't be trusted to get us a good deal. A good deal is achievable, but only with the right fiscal policy (Tories plans won't deliver) and only by making reasonable concessions on both sides, not by making threats or making the UK into some sort of tax haven.


And if communist subversion has ever been a tradition in Cambridge then perhaps it's a model for elsewhere (this is the first I've ever heard of such a conspiracy theory). Cambridge is a lovely place to live. It's a beautiful city with great architecture, arts, restaurants and pubs, small businesses, a centre of academic excellence, a world famous science, research and tech hub, a large business park, good schools, big tourism industry. All in all a vibrant and prosperous city. House prices are quite high mind, but they are building tons of new houses and flats (private enterprise leading the development).

 

hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 25 May 17 9.10am

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Brilliant comeback in what is meant to be a discussion of the merits of the various options on offer in this election and the issues involved.

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Tories have their heads in the sand over Brexit and can't be trusted to get us a good deal. A good deal is achievable, but only with the right fiscal policy (Tories plans won't deliver) and only by making reasonable concessions on both sides, not by making threats or making the UK into some sort of tax haven.


And if communist subversion has ever been a tradition in Cambridge then perhaps it's a model for elsewhere (this is the first I've ever heard of such a conspiracy theory). Cambridge is a lovely place to live. It's a beautiful city with great architecture, arts, restaurants and pubs, small businesses, a centre of academic excellence, a world famous science, research and tech hub, a large business park, good schools, big tourism industry. All in all a vibrant and prosperous city. House prices are quite high mind, but they are building tons of new houses and flats (private enterprise leading the development).

Philby, Maclean, Burgess, Blunt ...

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 25 May 17 9.11am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

For alleged 'former Tories' like you I've long since come to understand that up is down.

Perhaps you should write a blog. Nick could read it then.

What are you on about. What do you think is the opposite of fact here?

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I've also linked an FT article that confirms this and you can find the story in other news sources. You can also find the document setting out the EU27's legally binding Brexit strategy which says these three items must be settled first. There won't be any budging on this. Davis or hopefully Kier Starmer needs to sit down on the 19th of June and start negotiating on these three points and stop posturing and issuing threats.

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 May 17 9.12am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

For alleged 'former Tories' like you I've long since come to understand that up is down.

Perhaps you should write a blog. Nick could read it then.

Oh dear

 

CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 25 May 17 9.17am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Philby, Maclean, Burgess, Blunt ...

So I've never heard of them before... as they were around in the 1950s having met at the University during the war. This is some 70 years before I lived in Cambridge. I imagine it's changed somewhat since then... And your example doesn't suggest anything close to a "tradition". I can assure you that Conservative Associations in Cambridge are much more of a tradition: [Link]


What an absurd point to raise on a thread about the 2017 election as a response to the Tories failings in the past 7 years and their lack of credibility going into Brexit talks this summer.

 

hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 25 May 17 9.19am

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

So I've never heard of them before... as they were around in the 1950s having met at the University during the war. This is some 70 years before I lived in Cambridge. I imagine it's changed somewhat since then... And your example doesn't suggest anything close to a "tradition". I can assure you that Conservative Associations in Cambridge are much more of a tradition: [Link]
What an absurd point to raise on a thread about the 2017 election as a response to the Tories failings in the past 7 years and their lack of credibility going into Brexit talks this summer.

You've never heard of them before! Frankly, I find that shocking. Have you heard of Stalin at all? You will probably find you agree with some of his political views.

Edited by hedgehog50 (25 May 2017 9.22am)

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 25 May 17 9.22am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

You've never heard of them before! Frankly, I find that shocking. Have you heard of Stalin at all?

Edited by hedgehog50 (25 May 2017 9.21am)

My life overlapped with just one of theirs by a single year. I'd suggest they aren't household names or particularly relevant post Berlin Wall. I'm not overly surprised I've never heard of them.

You're being facetious now. I suspect this is an attempt to swerve the actual issues being discussed on this thread. Just like our (dear) leader.

Edited by CambridgeEagle (25 May 2017 9.23am)

 

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