They've had 7 years and these issues have got markedly worse.

They are so far ahead in the polls as people don't think the alternative is better, mainly due to the official opposition's embarrassing infighting and weak leadership. They don't want Corbyn as PM and I don't blame them. Most swing voters out there will still only vote red or blue and right now red is a mess.

Do you actually believe that? If the Tories are voted out who will make up the government? The Labour party - who will not have a radically different immigration policy. UKIP have no MPs and even if they do well in this election they will probably only have up to 4. Lib Dems and SNP are pro-EU so that's no help in forming an anti-immigration government. And not everyone who voted out did so for reasons of wanting much lower immigration.

We have no realistic opportunity of electing an anti-immigration government.

It's much like Trump's blustering about trade and US protectionism. He's done nothing on that front since his election and is unlikely to do so ever.

One old-ish and honest man-in-the-street Brexit voter when asked by a reporter 'why people were voting Leave?' said 'it's about the muslims' and after seeing Farage and that long line of refugees poster and all the nonsense talk about Turkey I make him right for many.

I think if some on here were more honest like him they would agree with him too rather than 'debate' other areas as if they were the main reason for their stance.

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If you are suggesting that some people have simplistic reasoning for their voting behaviour, then considering the complexity of the issues involved, to a greater or lesser extent that includes almost everybody, including those on the Left.
In some cases it might be instinctive. In other words, there is an inherent non academic sense of what is good for them. This should not be dismissed purely as ignorance or xenophobia in the case of Brexiters because there are a raft of very good logical reasons why their instincts might be right.

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This article, while about the US, applies to the UK. It offers an interesting insight into loss of jobs in traditional industries and the conclusion is bang on. The accusations could very well be levelled at successive governments in the UK and certainly at the current one.

If you are straight,gay rights are meaningless to your life! What crap.

So what meaning should "gay rights" have for someone who isn't gay?

So this about 'race' again?

This demonstrates that reductionism is alive and well everywhere.

Industry is about profit. It has to recognise changing markets and new technology to achieve that goal. Sadly, the any particular work force is secondary to that end in the private sector. Am I teaching your granny to suck eggs here? It seems like it's necessary in your case.
Industry has to serve society, but forcing it to become less efficient and or profitable has negative consequences. I'm all for protecting jobs or even nationalisation if the benefits to the majority can be shown to outweigh the disadvantages and not just serve a minority but we have seen that these types of arrangements are very costly to the taxpayer.
If these were simple issues then they would have simple solutions. They clearly don't.

No, it wouldn't, but if my son turns out to be gay then certainly if he was denied certain rights that the rest of us enjoy because he was gay his situation would be anything but meaningless to me.

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Great speech from Corbyn this morning.

What I like is that he says what goes in the manifesto will be fully costed.

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Britain needs a Labour government that is prepared to fight for people in every part of the country, our towns, villages, as well as big cities.

And yet, at the end of it, they get almost nothing left over as a reward.