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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 01 Nov 19 4.51pm

Originally posted by Jway89

I'm not sure it is a tough call for leavers. Farage has run on pretty much a No Deal Brexit, while stroking a Canada++++ or something to that effect. If you are in the 'Out means out' camp, I can't see how you'd not vote for the Brexit Party.

Farage has basically said that May's deal is worse than remaining and I think he's basically said Boris's deal is worse than May's. Therefore, Farage not standing candidates anywhere is at odds with what he wants to achieve and here's the reason why;

Boris and Corbyn will no deliver 'true' Brexit. It will be remain light, because I don't believe there are enough ardent No Dealers in either party. I mean, the Brexit Party has been around for almost a year and still have no policies that I'm aware of, which says a lot.

Farage may be a BSer, but he's smart. He knows, unless ego gets in the way, that the most power you have isn't a PM, it's as the opposition or the big donor.

The obvious issue is the risk of a hung Parliament or worse.
Voting for Farage could make this happen so a deal between parties is a good option in my opinion.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Nov 19 4.57pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The obvious issue is the risk of a hung Parliament or worse.
Voting for Farage could make this happen so a deal between parties is a good option in my opinion.

Surveys have tended to find in recent weeks that Brexit is the top issue for Party activists.And they are being presented by Boris Johnson with an election that he hopes will “Get Brexit done”.

That being so,it is perhaps not surprising that a majority of activists believe,albeit narrowly,that it therefore makes sense to work with another party that wants to leave the EU.

 

Deleted11 01 Nov 19 5.05pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Let's not forget though that this election isn't only about Brexit.

A Corbyn government would be economically disastrous as would be a hung parliament with a lib-lab pact.

We would have a repeat of when the socialists took over in France and we would see a significant proportion of wealth buggering off.

If Farage's party stood and were to take three or four points off of a Tory vote who knows what might happen.

Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Nov 2019 4.50pm)

I'd argue that the biggest wealth creators are the Central banks at this present time, bailing out businesses and institutions all over the place.

I also think a lot also depends on who is President in the USA. If Bernie/Warren win, then I'm not sure where wealth will be able to go to.

Also, never underestimate the chance of another LibCon, with the 'We will control the Conservatives'slogan

 

Stirlingsays Flag 01 Nov 19 5.20pm

Originally posted by Jway89

I'd argue that the biggest wealth creators are the Central banks at this present time, bailing out businesses and institutions all over the place.

Sure, that's one form that but the top ten percent of wealth in the country who don't currently run off....probably will.

Originally posted by Jway89

I also think a lot also depends on who is President in the USA. If Bernie/Warren win, then I'm not sure where wealth will be able to go to.

The same places a few of them do already. There are plenty of places from Monaco to Switzerland....and even if that were not the case as soon as a Warren or Bernie US government existed a country would emerge to welcome them.

Where there is a demand there is a supply.....especially when it's gold tinted.

Originally posted by Jway89

Also, never underestimate the chance of another LibCon, with the 'We will control the Conservatives'slogan

Perhaps but surely the Libs have already learnt that lesson.

Mind you at least then we would have an impressive pair of tIts to look at to add to our current resident one.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 01 Nov 19 5.30pm

Originally posted by DanH

Never. I am the internet equivalent of Dorian Gray.

Well have a care. It didn’t end well for him.

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 01 Nov 19 5.36pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Well have a care. It didn’t end well for him.

“There is only one thing in the world worse than being posted about, and that is not being posted about.”

 

Teddy Eagle Flag 01 Nov 19 5.39pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

“There is only one thing in the world worse than being posted about, and that is not being posted about.”

“I am not young enough to know everything.”

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 01 Nov 19 5.44pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

“I am not young enough to know everything.”

'Experience is merely the name men gave to their mistakes'.

Sorry that should apply to the brexit thread.

-.-'

 

DanH Flag SW2 01 Nov 19 5.52pm

Lovely unexpected Oscar Wilde turn here, lads.

 

Invalid user 2019 Flag 01 Nov 19 6.01pm

2016 Leave voter Westminster voting intention:

CON: 58%
BREX: 24%
LAB: 10%

via @YouGov, 17 - 28 Oct


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2016 Remain voter Westminster voting intention:

LDEM: 34%
LAB: 33%
CON: 16%
GRN: 9%

via @YouGov, 17 - 28 Oct

 

Teddy Eagle Flag 01 Nov 19 6.07pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

'Experience is merely the name men gave to their mistakes'.

Sorry that should apply to the brexit thread.

-.-'

“I love to talk about nothing. It’s the only thing I know anything about”.

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 01 Nov 19 6.10pm

Originally posted by DanH

Lovely unexpected Oscar Wilde turn here, lads.

'To lose one election may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose both looks like carelessness'.

Just couldn't resist it....


 

Stirlingsays Flag 01 Nov 19 6.23pm

The love that dare not speak its name now can't frigging shut up about it.

 


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palace_in_frogland Flag In a broken dream 01 Nov 19 6.36pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The love that dare not speak its name now can't frigging shut up about it.

It shouldn’t be speaking with its mouth full anyway.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 01 Nov 19 6.41pm

Originally posted by palace_in_frogland

It shouldn’t be speaking with its mouth full anyway.

 


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braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 01 Nov 19 8.25pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Which did you go with?

i dont know, i cannot tell you.

i feel like i will feel dirty whoever i vote for, i cant abstain as thats a wasted vote.

i really hate (and i really dislike the word hate) the fact this election is going to be a single issue vote.

lots of research is needed.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 01 Nov 19 11.01pm

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

i dont know, i cannot tell you.

i feel like i will feel dirty whoever i vote for, i cant abstain as thats a wasted vote.

i really hate (and i really dislike the word hate) the fact this election is going to be a single issue vote.

lots of research is needed.

I can relate to this.

The 'hate' word is rarely appropriate in its usage and whoever any of us vote for....it inevitably has a 'hold the nose' aspect to it.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 02 Nov 19 11.01am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

What a ridiculous excuse.

Do you understand the difference between excuses and reasons?

There could only be a binary choice and you know it.

We all ought to know it but more importantly the consequences of such a choice. Which has resulted in the mess we are now in.

You also know that we would be out of the EU
today if it wasn't for people like you and your arrogance.

"People like me" are far from "arrogant", at least over this issue. We have just looked at what has actually happened and are determined that such a disastrous sequence of events be brought to an end by our Parliament in the interests of our country


Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (31 Oct 2019 10.48pm)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 02 Nov 19 11.15am

Originally posted by Willo

Darned good job and all.

In your own opinion, but not in mine.

Respecting the result of the referendum.This is what 17.4 million people voted for.

That's though one of the major problems. No-one knew what "respecting the result" actually meant and it's impact on the future of the UK.

"In hock to the USA" and the "UK itself in tatters".Straight from the Corbyn "Bible".

I don't read, let alone subscribe to, "Corbyn's bible".

With respect a load of old hogwash as far as I am concerned but I respect your right to your air your opinion even though I fervently oppose it.

We will see whether it's "hogwash" in the coming years. If the UK breaks up as a consequence then it most certainly won't be and that's the final destination that I see. If I am right then Brexit will have been a total disaster.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 02 Nov 19 11.20am

The so called "Mess' is solely the result of a 'Hung Parliament'. At the end of the day Labour would have voted against ANY deal deal agreed with the EU.

The Labour party led (I use the term loosely) by the Commissar of Islington North are the sole reason for the continued uncertainty and the reason Parliament has got nothing done.

Edited by Willo (02 Nov 2019 11.23am)

 

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