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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 Sep 16 8.16pm
I still fail to see how looking for a fairer society is hard left? Does Corbyn want state control of everything? No. Is he asking for the end of capitalism? No. Corbyn (to my mind) represent democratic socialism Edited by nickgusset (24 Sep 2016 8.17pm)

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 24 Sep 16 8.16pm

I still fail to see how looking for a fairer society is hard left? Does Corbyn want state control of everything? No. Is he asking for the end of capitalism? No.

Corbyn (to my mind) represent democratic socialism

Edited by nickgusset (24 Sep 2016 8.17pm)

banbandanas Birmingham 24 Sep 16 8.36pm
Originally posted by nickgusset I still fail to see how looking for a fairer society is hard left? Does Corbyn want state control of everything? No. Is he asking for the end of capitalism? No. Corbyn (to my mind) represent democratic socialism Edited by nickgusset (24 Sep 2016 8.17pm) Does his mate, Andrew Murray, tipped to be the next General Secretary of the Labour Party, want state control of everything and would he like to see an end of Capitalism? After all he is a member of the Communist Party of Britain. To your mind, is he a representative of 'democratic socialism'?

banbandanas

Birmingham 24 Sep 16 8.36pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

I still fail to see how looking for a fairer society is hard left? Does Corbyn want state control of everything? No. Is he asking for the end of capitalism? No.

Corbyn (to my mind) represent democratic socialism

Edited by nickgusset (24 Sep 2016 8.17pm)

Does his mate, Andrew Murray, tipped to be the next General Secretary of the Labour Party, want state control of everything and would he like to see an end of Capitalism? After all he is a member of the Communist Party of Britain. To your mind, is he a representative of 'democratic socialism'?

davidpercival Croydon 24 Sep 16 9.47pm
I didn't say all the MPs were Blairites. I said the Blairites never accepted Corbyn's victory and plotted against him. Unfortunately, Some others who are not Blairites got dragged into that (e.g. H Benn) Originally posted by matt_himself I don't think the likes of Tom Watson or Hilary Benn are 'Blairites'. They are part of a centre left tradition within the party.

davidpercival

Croydon 24 Sep 16 9.47pm

I didn't say all the MPs were Blairites. I said the Blairites never accepted Corbyn's victory and plotted against him. Unfortunately, Some others who are not Blairites got dragged into that (e.g. H Benn)

Originally posted by matt_himself

I don't think the likes of Tom Watson or Hilary Benn are 'Blairites'.

They are part of a centre left tradition within the party.

Thegamesafoot Somewhere but Nowhere 24 Sep 16 9.54pm
Last night BBC 4 had a bandana wearing Kieth Richards night. Although they allowed him to air his views, I don't believe the BBC then made everyone wear bandanas as a matter of policy. It's good to keep an opened mind, but not so open that your brains fall out.

Thegamesafoot

Somewhere but Nowhere 24 Sep 16 9.54pm

Last night BBC 4 had a bandana wearing Kieth Richards night. Although they allowed him to air his views, I don't believe the BBC then made everyone wear bandanas as a matter of policy.

It's good to keep an opened mind, but not so open that your brains fall out.

turkish eagle 24 Sep 16 10.10pm
He did it, they tried to fix it so he couldn't stand, stole the votes of members who'd joined as far back as February but you can't stamp out the demand for an alternative to Blairite politics within the Labour Party. [Link]

turkish eagle

24 Sep 16 10.10pm

He did it, they tried to fix it so he couldn't stand, stole the votes of members who'd joined as far back as February but you can't stamp out the demand for an alternative to Blairite politics within the Labour Party.

[Link]

banbandanas Birmingham 24 Sep 16 10.23pm
Originally posted by Thegamesafoot Last night BBC 4 had a bandana wearing Kieth Richards night. Although they allowed him to air his views, I don't believe the BBC then made everyone wear bandanas as a matter of policy. It is all part of the world-wide bandanaist conspiracy.

banbandanas

Birmingham 24 Sep 16 10.23pm

Originally posted by Thegamesafoot

Last night BBC 4 had a bandana wearing Kieth Richards night. Although they allowed him to air his views, I don't believe the BBC then made everyone wear bandanas as a matter of policy.

It is all part of the world-wide bandanaist conspiracy.

Thegamesafoot Somewhere but Nowhere 24 Sep 16 10.41pm
My post was mean't to be a metaphor for your Murray=Labour comment. Bandana wearers are ok with me but I am wary of drunken businessmen with their ties around their heads. It's good to keep an opened mind, but not so open that your brains fall out.

Thegamesafoot

Somewhere but Nowhere 24 Sep 16 10.41pm

My post was mean't to be a metaphor for your Murray=Labour comment. Bandana wearers are ok with me but I am wary of drunken businessmen with their ties around their heads.

It's good to keep an opened mind, but not so open that your brains fall out.

Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 25 Sep 16 1.21pm
Originally posted by turkish eagle He did it, they tried to fix it so he couldn't stand, stole the votes of members who'd joined as far back as February but you can't stamp out the demand for an alternative to Blairite politics within the Labour Party. [Link] Quoted for truth. Well said. Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

Mr_Gristle

In the land of Whelk Eaters 25 Sep 16 1.21pm

Originally posted by turkish eagle

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Quoted for truth. Well said.

Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

Hoof Hearted 26 Sep 16 11.07am
Originally posted by turkish eagle He did it, they tried to fix it so he couldn't stand, stole the votes of members who'd joined as far back as February but you can't stamp out the demand for an alternative to Blairite politics within the Labour Party. [Link] Yes he did it. But like the voting at primary school for class captain..... winning a Labour leadership contest is not relevant anymore if you want to be PM. The Labour Party are on the road to ruin in England and Wales.... the life support system is just about to be switched off in Scotland. The LibDems look to be a better bet to oppose the Tory's grip on governing the UK. If you want to defeat them, put up a credible leader and supporting team... one the public can trust, respect and vote for. Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott are a joke and you know it mate.

Hoof Hearted 26 Sep 16 11.07am

Originally posted by turkish eagle

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Yes he did it.

But like the voting at primary school for class captain..... winning a Labour leadership contest is not relevant anymore if you want to be PM.

The Labour Party are on the road to ruin in England and Wales.... the life support system is just about to be switched off in Scotland.

The LibDems look to be a better bet to oppose the Tory's grip on governing the UK.

If you want to defeat them, put up a credible leader and supporting team... one the public can trust, respect and vote for.

Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott are a joke and you know it mate.

Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 26 Sep 16 11.13am
[Link] Another reason why come 2020 Corbyn may find it difficult (besides the fact he is surrounded by the inept) the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 26 Sep 16 11.13am

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Another reason why come 2020 Corbyn may find it difficult (besides the fact he is surrounded by the inept)

the dignified don't even enter in the game

Hoof Hearted 26 Sep 16 11.58am
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch [Link] Another reason why come 2020 Corbyn may find it difficult (besides the fact he is surrounded by the inept) Love some of the quotes.... "The great political novelist George Orwell wrote in the late 1930s that the problem with Marxists is that they don’t have any clue what’s going on in normal people’s heads. That’s as true today as it was before the Second World War". DAVID BLUNKETT-Mailonline That is why people will never vote for them.

Hoof Hearted 26 Sep 16 11.58am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

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Another reason why come 2020 Corbyn may find it difficult (besides the fact he is surrounded by the inept)

Love some of the quotes....

"The great political novelist George Orwell wrote in the late 1930s that the problem with Marxists is that they don’t have any clue what’s going on in normal people’s heads. That’s as true today as it was before the Second World War".

DAVID BLUNKETT-Mailonline
That is why people will never vote for them.

Ouzo Dan Behind you 26 Sep 16 3.09pm
So Labour have announced they would introduce a new minimum wage of over £10 an hour [Link] Great news for me, The Tories are already raising the minimum wage to £9 per hour & I can see them raising it to £10 to snuffle out Labour. Whilst I appreciate Tax,Rent & the general cost of living will rise to gobble it up before I ever get my hands on it, in raw terms it offers me an extra £414 a month which makes an enormous difference. Edited by Ouzo Dan (26 Sep 2016 4.05pm) The mountains are calling & I must go.

Ouzo Dan

Behind you 26 Sep 16 3.09pm

So Labour have announced they would introduce a new minimum wage of over £10 an hour

[Link]

Great news for me, The Tories are already raising the minimum wage to £9 per hour & I can see them raising it to £10 to snuffle out Labour.

Whilst I appreciate Tax,Rent & the general cost of living will rise to gobble it up before I ever get my hands on it, in raw terms it offers me an extra £414 a month which makes an enormous difference.

Edited by Ouzo Dan (26 Sep 2016 4.05pm)

The mountains are calling & I must go.

banbandanas Birmingham 26 Sep 16 3.54pm
Originally posted by Ouzo Dan So Labour have announced they would introduce a new minimum wage of over £10 an hour [Link] Great news for me, The Tories are already raising the minimum wage to £9 per hour & I can see them raising it to £10 to snuffle out Labour. Whilst I appreaciate Tax,Rent & the general cost of living will rise to gobble it up before I ever get my hands on it, in raw terms it offers me an extra £414 a month which makes an enormous difference. Edited by Ouzo Dan (26 Sep 2016 3.15pm) When businesses have to raise their wages, they also raise their prices, so your wages are not really worth more.

banbandanas

Birmingham 26 Sep 16 3.54pm

Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

So Labour have announced they would introduce a new minimum wage of over £10 an hour

[Link]

Great news for me, The Tories are already raising the minimum wage to £9 per hour & I can see them raising it to £10 to snuffle out Labour.

Whilst I appreaciate Tax,Rent & the general cost of living will rise to gobble it up before I ever get my hands on it, in raw terms it offers me an extra £414 a month which makes an enormous difference.

Edited by Ouzo Dan (26 Sep 2016 3.15pm)

When businesses have to raise their wages, they also raise their prices, so your wages are not really worth more.

Ouzo Dan Behind you 26 Sep 16 4.06pm
Originally posted by banbandanas When businesses have to raise their wages, they also raise their prices, so your wages are not really worth more. Think I covered that in my post. The mountains are calling & I must go.

Ouzo Dan

Behind you 26 Sep 16 4.06pm

Originally posted by banbandanas

When businesses have to raise their wages, they also raise their prices, so your wages are not really worth more.

Think I covered that in my post.

The mountains are calling & I must go.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 26 Sep 16 4.23pm
Originally posted by banbandanas When businesses have to raise their wages, they also raise their prices, so your wages are not really worth more. Did you listen to Mcdonnell's speech?

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 26 Sep 16 4.23pm

Originally posted by banbandanas

When businesses have to raise their wages, they also raise their prices, so your wages are not really worth more.

Did you listen to Mcdonnell's speech?

Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 26 Sep 16 4.50pm
Of the many problems I have with McDonnell, this illustrates his lack of understanding to "end the social scourge of tax avoidance" by doubling the number of HMRC staff working in this area and banning "tax-dodging companies" from winning public sector contracts The problem of tax avoidance is an international cross border problem and not something that one single country cannot resolve. It is also probably illegal to preclude a company from a tender just because you don't like them Edited by Y Ddraig Goch (26 Sep 2016 5.00pm) the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 26 Sep 16 4.50pm

Of the many problems I have with McDonnell, this illustrates his lack of understanding

to "end the social scourge of tax avoidance" by doubling the number of HMRC staff working in this area and banning "tax-dodging companies" from winning public sector contracts

The problem of tax avoidance is an international cross border problem and not something that one single country cannot resolve.

It is also probably illegal to preclude a company from a tender just because you don't like them

Edited by Y Ddraig Goch (26 Sep 2016 5.00pm)

the dignified don't even enter in the game

turkish eagle 26 Sep 16 5.17pm
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted Yes he did it. But like the voting at primary school for class captain..... winning a Labour leadership contest is not relevant anymore if you want to be PM. The Labour Party are on the road to ruin in England and Wales.... the life support system is just about to be switched off in Scotland. The LibDems look to be a better bet to oppose the Tory's grip on governing the UK. If you want to defeat them, put up a credible leader and supporting team... one the public can trust, respect and vote for. Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott are a joke and you know it mate. I'd say the activities of Sir Phillip Green, Mike Ashley are not a joke. And if you think the Tories, Liberals and UKIP are going to tackle the abuse of wealth..... now that really is funny.

turkish eagle

26 Sep 16 5.17pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Yes he did it.

But like the voting at primary school for class captain..... winning a Labour leadership contest is not relevant anymore if you want to be PM.

The Labour Party are on the road to ruin in England and Wales.... the life support system is just about to be switched off in Scotland.

The LibDems look to be a better bet to oppose the Tory's grip on governing the UK.

If you want to defeat them, put up a credible leader and supporting team... one the public can trust, respect and vote for.

Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott are a joke and you know it mate.

I'd say the activities of Sir Phillip Green, Mike Ashley are not a joke. And if you think the Tories, Liberals and UKIP are going to tackle the abuse of wealth..... now that really is funny.

banbandanas Birmingham 26 Sep 16 6.01pm
You know all the stuff like the collapse of the stock market, mass unemployment and business going under if we voted to leave the EU. Well that's exactly what would happen if McDonnell came to power. Edited by banbandanas (26 Sep 2016 6.03pm)

banbandanas

Birmingham 26 Sep 16 6.01pm

You know all the stuff like the collapse of the stock market, mass unemployment and business going under if we voted to leave the EU. Well that's exactly what would happen if McDonnell came to power.

Edited by banbandanas (26 Sep 2016 6.03pm)

Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 26 Sep 16 6.19pm
Originally posted by turkish eagle I'd say the activities of Sir Phillip Green, Mike Ashley are not a joke. And if you think the Tories, Liberals and UKIP are going to tackle the abuse of wealth..... now that really is funny. You think there won't be people who will abuse their position if Labour get in? Don't be so naive. It is too easy to blame everyone for the actions of the few. Corbyn & McDonell have some great sound bites but actually being able to implement them? They are so use to protesting they have no idea how to actually do anything the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 26 Sep 16 6.19pm

Originally posted by turkish eagle

I'd say the activities of Sir Phillip Green, Mike Ashley are not a joke. And if you think the Tories, Liberals and UKIP are going to tackle the abuse of wealth..... now that really is funny.

You think there won't be people who will abuse their position if Labour get in? Don't be so naive. It is too easy to blame everyone for the actions of the few.

Corbyn & McDonell have some great sound bites but actually being able to implement them? They are so use to protesting they have no idea how to actually do anything

the dignified don't even enter in the game

chris123 hove actually 26 Sep 16 6.48pm
Originally posted by banbandanas You know all the stuff like the collapse of the stock market, mass unemployment and business going under if we voted to leave the EU. Well that's exactly what would happen if McDonnell came to power. Edited by banbandanas (26 Sep 2016 6.03pm) Well Labour need to start upping their game in Scotland because they need those seats to form a majority and I'm not sure who Labour represent in Scotland anymore.

chris123

hove actually 26 Sep 16 6.48pm

Originally posted by banbandanas

You know all the stuff like the collapse of the stock market, mass unemployment and business going under if we voted to leave the EU. Well that's exactly what would happen if McDonnell came to power.

Edited by banbandanas (26 Sep 2016 6.03pm)

Well Labour need to start upping their game in Scotland because they need those seats to form a majority and I'm not sure who Labour represent in Scotland anymore.

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