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 Spiderman  Horsham 18 Mar 23 7.03am |
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Something else to give miss. Really cannot help themselves. I wonder if the white privileged “Pio” realised that Britain were not the only ones with an empire?
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cryrst  The garden of England 18 Mar 23 8.12am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Something else to give miss. Really cannot help themselves. I wonder if the white privileged “Pio” realised that Britain were not the only ones with an empire? White bad, even though they were offered slaves by blacks.
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| Midlands Eagle 18 Mar 23 8.20am |
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Cancel culture at it's finest
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Mar 23 8.42am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Something else to give miss. Really cannot help themselves. I wonder if the white privileged “Pio” realised that Britain were not the only ones with an empire? This is simply the Mail and the Telegraph trying to wind you up, and it seems they have succeeded. This is a big nothing. Books are not scripts. Adaptations of books for stage and and screen presentation have always been done. This is nothing new at all. Dickens was a social reformer who, if he were writing today, would doubtless say exactly what the adaptation says. It's taking his messages and trying to make them relevant to a modern audience. The only way to judge is to watch it and decide on the whole, in its context. Which is a screen in 2023. Not paper in 1861. If you want to read the original it's still available. Nothing has been cancelled.
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| cryrst The garden of England 18 Mar 23 8.52am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
This is simply the Mail and the Telegraph trying to wind you up, and it seems they have succeeded. This is a big nothing. Books are not scripts. Adaptations of books for stage and and screen presentation have always been done. This is nothing new at all. Dickens was a social reformer who, if he were writing today, would doubtless say exactly what the adaptation says. It's taking his messages and trying to make them relevant to a modern audience. The only way to judge is to watch it and decide on the whole, in its context. Which is a screen in 2023. Not paper in 1861. If you want to read the original it's still available. Nothing has been cancelled. Yet, but some books have been removed from education establishments and replaced with a ‘modern’ version; you know so as not to upset the lazy self righteous never wrong little darlings !
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 18 Mar 23 9.42am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Yet, but some books have been removed from education establishments and replaced with a ‘modern’ version; you know so as not to upset the lazy self righteous never wrong little darlings ! It's like 1930s Germany.
Red and Blue Army! |
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Teddy Eagle  18 Mar 23 9.57am |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
It's like 1930s Germany. Thanks Gary.
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 georgenorman 18 Mar 23 10.16am |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
It's like 1930s Germany. Yes, they will be rewriting Mein Kampf next.
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| Teddy Eagle 18 Mar 23 10.22am |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Yes, they will be rewriting Mein Kampf next. My Struggle? Could be the title of PVs autobiography.
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| georgenorman 18 Mar 23 10.28am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
My Struggle? Could be the title of PVs autobiography. Adolf would get us to advance on all fronts - we might have to play in lederhosen though. Edited by georgenorman (18 Mar 2023 10.29am)
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| Spiderman Horsham 18 Mar 23 11.30am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
This is simply the Mail and the Telegraph trying to wind you up, and it seems they have succeeded. This is a big nothing. Books are not scripts. Adaptations of books for stage and and screen presentation have always been done. This is nothing new at all. Dickens was a social reformer who, if he were writing today, would doubtless say exactly what the adaptation says. It's taking his messages and trying to make them relevant to a modern audience. The only way to judge is to watch it and decide on the whole, in its context. Which is a screen in 2023. Not paper in 1861. If you want to read the original it's still available. Nothing has been cancelled. Slating off the Empire is a big nothing! Many countries would probably be worse off today had it not existed.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Mar 23 11.58am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Yet, but some books have been removed from education establishments and replaced with a ‘modern’ version; you know so as not to upset the lazy self righteous never wrong little darlings ! You do realise how often the curriculum changes don't you? Perfectly serviceable books routinely get dumped and have done for many years. It's nothing new. Whether you, or I agree, with the reasons for each change is another matter. Some we will, some we won't, but we aren't responsible for taking the decisions. Just remember that in the internet age kids are able to access "information" at will. Much of which is inaccurate and a lot of which we would never have seen. Schools need to counter that and be ready to answer questions. Comparing today to other schooldays makes no sense at all.
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| Teddy Eagle 18 Mar 23 12.10pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You do realise how often the curriculum changes don't you? Perfectly serviceable books routinely get dumped and have done for many years. It's nothing new. Whether you, or I agree, with the reasons for each change is another matter. Some we will, some we won't, but we aren't responsible for taking the decisions. Just remember that in the internet age kids are able to access "information" at will. Much of which is inaccurate and a lot of which we would never have seen. Schools need to counter that and be ready to answer questions. Comparing today to other schooldays makes no sense at all. But to change or ignore history because things didn't fit in with current thinking or might upset people is just wrong and provides a false narrative.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Mar 23 12.13pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Slating off the Empire is a big nothing! Many countries would probably be worse off today had it not existed. It's not "slating off the Empire", is it? It is, alongside many other similar things, putting a modern interpretation on historical events, the better to prepare for our future. No-one is suggesting that in its own context at the time it was wrong. Only that, with the benefit of hindsight, some people would ask questions. Dickens, being the social reformer he was, could easily have given one of his characters the licence to ask such such questions. When adapting a book for the screen this is what writers do. They challenge perceptions and make people think. It's not the BBC doing anything. It's a writer interpreting a book. I expect he is pleased with the controversy as it means people are taking notice. Yes, I criticise the Mail because it looks for things like this to dangle in front of their readership. They like to wind people up, rather than actually report events.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Mar 23 12.17pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
But to change or ignore history because things didn't fit in with current thinking or might upset people is just wrong and provides a false narrative. No-one is either changing or ignoring history, of which there are many versions depending on which prism you view it through. This is not a false narrative. It's an alternative narrative.
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| georgenorman 18 Mar 23 12.18pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No-one is either changing or ignoring history, of which there are many versions depending on which prism you view it through. This is not a false narrative. It's an alternative narrative. It's like Landing Strip One in the 1980s.
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| Teddy Eagle 18 Mar 23 12.34pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No-one is either changing or ignoring history, of which there are many versions depending on which prism you view it through. This is not a false narrative. It's an alternative narrative. If that was even remotely true then history wouldn't be constantly reinterpreted to reflect current right-think.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 18 Mar 23 2.50pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No-one is either changing or ignoring history, of which there are many versions depending on which prism you view it through. This is not a false narrative. It's an alternative narrative. For anyone with an ounce of foresight, this stuff would be seen for what it really is. It is an early symptom of the replacement of a culture, genetic heritage and written history of an entire people. We will be out bred, subjugated and ultimately erased from the record. All that will remain is a few random genes and a whole lot of false history and fiction written by our replacements. Opponents of reality and proponents of woke will call this a far right wing conspiracy. Well they would, wouldn't they.
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| Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 18 Mar 23 3.21pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
For anyone with an ounce of foresight, this stuff would be seen for what it really is. It is an early symptom of the replacement of a culture, genetic heritage and written history of an entire people. We will be out bred, subjugated and ultimately erased from the record. All that will remain is a few random genes and a whole lot of false history and fiction written by our replacements. Opponents of reality and proponents of woke will call this a far right wing conspiracy. Well they would, wouldn't they. Every civilisation eventually comes to an end, either by war, natural disaster or some form of implosion. When people don’t have the ability to improve society they look back in order to justify their existence, and in doing so take society backwards instead of forwards. That’s where we are at; too many looking to correct the ‘mistakes’ of history rather than progress civilisation forward.
hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing. |
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Mar 23 3.39pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
If that was even remotely true then history wouldn't be constantly reinterpreted to reflect current right-think. The history you perceive is not the history others do. It's not simply a matter of reinterpretation. It's that people experience things differently and pass those experiences on. There are countless examples of this, running since time began. That the books are written by the victors doesn't mean that the losers see things the same way. Just look at Brexit as an example. Our views are very different.
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