Miliband tried the "us against the rich" strategy and got humiliated. When will Labour ever learn that they have to speak with aspiration to win, rather than bringing everyone to the lowest common denominator.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

Nice and patronising post.

I watched the speech and have looked into his economic plan. The "invest to grow" argument has been done to death and never voted in. That's because it either means huge levels of borrowing (which the public don't like) or it means tax rises (which they like even less).

It's government's job to create the conditions for innovation, not force it through state coercion and huge tax-and-spend. Don't do things like raise corporation tax, for example, unless you want businesses to not pay it or, worse, leave the country.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

Well I'm sure Theresa May has suggested investing to grow in the past few weeks.

From the speech, "Good business doesn’t need no government. Good business needs good government. And the best governments today, right across the world, recognise that they need to support their economies because the way the world works is changing."

Go on...

How about you actually answer the points made in my post? Instead of quoting your Maoist moron.

You do not support businesses by raising their taxes. You also don't support them by bankrupting the country. What is it with left wingers? You think literally every problem can be solved by chucking loads of borrowed money at it. Do you honestly think borrowing £250bn will wash with the centrist voter? Absolutely stark raving bonkers.

Stimulate the economy by creating the conditions with which it can thrive. Let business do the rest.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

We voted Jeremy because we are sick of the same old career politicians. The same Jeremy who has been an MP for 34 years

We voted for Jeremy and now want unity it is the duty of all MPs to support the leader. The same Jeremy who voted against the Labour government nearly 500 times.

Any Labour supporter who has achieved anything is seen by the left as "Tory Lite". The abuse JK Rowling got and accused of having no idea what it was like to be poor etc. Corbyn has turned them back into the party of envy

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EFA.

Buy Litecoin.

Sorry but you are way off. He is inept, he has proven this time and again. Are some stories sensationalised because it's him? Yes undoubtedly but even allowing or that there is more than enough evidence to illustrate just how poor leader he is.

Isn't the one overriding job of a leader to get his and his party's point and vision across? If you're saying that hasn't happened because people are listening to the media rather than Corbyn, which certainly has elements of truth in it, doesn't that prove that he's failed as a leader?

It's all well and good mobilising the core Labour members to his side, but they are going to vote Labour anyway - nobody wins elections by convincing people who were already behind them.

He may well have some good ideas about policy, but if nobody is listening, then those ideas are pointless. He'd be better used as a backroom ideas man, with someone people will listen to heading the party (whoever that may be)