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Originally posted by Eustace H. Plimsoll
That has to be the clincher hasn't it? Something unquestionably sits instinctively slightly uncomfortably with me about the idea of 16-years-olds having enough understanding - as a (unfairly?) generalised group - to sensibly discern whom to vote for, but that's not good enough, is it? If we're going to take money from someone then we damn well better give them a say on how it's spent. If we don't like that then leave their money alone. Also, we've all encountered plenty of 18+ unutterable bellends who are entitled to vote and there's scant complaint there. (Furthermore, what about all the apparently incapable geriatrics that worry so many about their ability to drive? - should they be allowed to vote? If their faculties are so shot, I mean.) I reckon we need simply to suck it up and take it upon ourselves to try to encourage 16 and 17-year-olds to engage and take a comprehensive interest in current affairs and politics. (Inasmuch as people do generally, anyhow.) Either that or we all have to sit a test beforehand in order to try to achieve a passing grade entitling a vote. (That could be rather fun actually. If only to inspire an exciting fresh set of conspiracy theories.) What's the war-fighting age, by the way? (That's always raised.) 16? If so, then there's no argument, surely. (And if it's 18 then maybe 16-year-olds should only be allowed to vote if they absolutely promise to shoot at a nasty foreign-looking type on their way to the polling booth?) It’s 18 to go into battle although enough of them seem to get enough combat experience without joining the army.
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
You can get a paper round at 13 and for those saying if they pay tax at 16 they should vote, well what % work at 16? Tiny amount because they are to young and want to stay in education TO LEARN, yes learn because they are kids still educating their selves. Edited by dannyboy1978 (30 Oct 2019 6.22am)
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
This is going to be a very interesting election with unusual voting patterns. Who will Northern Labour leavers vote for and will Conservative voters whose MPs have continually blocked Brexit and effectively messed up parliament and what will Anna Soubry do after she's voted out of the House of Commons You are far too assumptive, the public may be thinking entirely differently. A remain parliament just as likely and an end to brexit altogether.
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
You can get a paper round at 13 and for those saying if they pay tax at 16 they should vote, well what % work at 16? Tiny amount because they are to young and want to stay in education TO LEARN, yes learn because they are kids still educating their selves. Edited by dannyboy1978 (30 Oct 2019 6.22am) Remoaner? Really? I’m not in favour of the idea but it does seem unfair that you can be at work and not get a vote while students do.
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Brexit deal means ‘£70bn hit to UK by 2029' Brexit no deal wipes 6% of incomes.
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Remoaner? Really? I’m not in favour of the idea but it does seem unfair that you can be at work and not get a vote while students do. Life is un fair, if you can vote at 16 why can't you drive at 16?
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
You can get a paper round at 13 and for those saying if they pay tax at 16 they should vote, well what % work at 16? Tiny amount because they are to young and want to stay in education TO LEARN, yes learn because they are kids still educating their selves. Edited by dannyboy1978 (30 Oct 2019 6.22am) Agreed
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
This is going to be a very interesting election with unusual voting patterns. Who will Northern Labour leavers vote for and will Conservative voters whose MPs have continually blocked Brexit and effectively messed up parliament and what will Anna Soubry do after she's voted out of the House of Commons Bye Bye Anna Soubry useless and clueless mp
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
You can get a paper round at 13 and for those saying if they pay tax at 16 they should vote, well what % work at 16? Tiny amount because they are to young and want to stay in education TO LEARN, yes learn because they are kids still educating their selves. Edited by dannyboy1978 (30 Oct 2019 6.22am) I was out to work at 16 and paying tax so were many of my schoolmates. I can't think of any reason why they should not vote, why don't they even things up by barring the vote to 75 years old plus. There are no fools like elderly fools, bring on the young.
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
Life is un fair, if you can vote at 16 why can't you drive at 16? I’m not disagreeing with you but it seems odd that a 16 year old can be deemed responsible enough to be a parent but not to put an X on a piece of paper or see a film at the pictures.
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Originally posted by W12
We have a culture that no longer values the military and a youth that can no longer handle even a pub fight. And policemen resembling Owen Jones.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Brexit deal means ‘£70bn hit to UK by 2029' Brexit no deal wipes 6% of incomes.
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
@joepike Bumped into Dominic Cummings. Me: Ready for the campaign Mr Cummings? Paranoid much? Edited by SW19 CPFC (29 Oct 2019 5.45pm) EU citizens shouldn’t have been given a Brexit vote and no bad thing the admin messed up do they couldn’t. Non citizens voting in a foreign country is taking it too far.
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Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE
Bye Bye Anna Soubry useless and clueless mp Now that a GE is happening I've noticed a number of MPs have now announced they will not be standing. Most of them are still of a working age and were Remain MPs, by coincidence they all seem to have narrow majorities or represent Leave areas. No wonder they wanted a referendum rather than a GE. It's a pity they are not standing I was looking forward to the electorate kicking their backsides out onto the street. You do wonder if over 70's shouldn't be allowed to vote because they won't be around then why were these MPs voting when they are not even standing? Gander: "Please pass the sauce".
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Are you the retarded sheep or village idiot lemming? Be gone troll.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Brexit deal means ‘£70bn hit to UK by 2029' Brexit no deal wipes 6% of incomes.
Oh dear not all rosy is it!Unrest amongst the ranks
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I see an opportunity. I am not against giving the EU money in principle, it all depends on what we get for it.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
I was out to work at 16 and paying tax so were many of my schoolmates. I can't think of any reason why they should not vote, why don't they even things up by barring the vote to 75 years old plus. There are no fools like elderly fools, bring on the young. You're not that old are you?
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Me for starters I'm Spartacus
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