Johnson will want the sovereignty aspect of Brexit and I have little doubt as his commitment to that.

However, on immigration he's always been relatively liberal compared to most Brexiteers.....He's part Turkish and famously or infamously advocated for Turkey's integration into the EU.

That said, I can't see the Tory party standing for 'freedom of movement' especially since this is principally what the leave vote was most about.

Politics is fascinating at the moment and full of possibility. We will soon discover the priorities for a Johnson government outside of Brexit and we get to see a fight on the left for its direction (though the dice is heavily loaded).

I agree with you....Johnson comes across as a 'wet' in old Tory speak. What worries me a bit is that he wants to be liked a bit too much....which he will discover means that he'll be encouraged to continually compromise.....and he should note what that did for Corbyn.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

One of them is now denying having called Brexit supporters stupid and is suing the person who spread these slurs

I think it's a shame as I'd like to see Emily Thornberry take over as Labour leader as the woman is so objectionable she will ensure that Labour remain in the doldrums

The depth of talent on the Labour front bench is something to observe. Even then they aren't interested in the better brain.

I think we can safely predict that Labour won't be electing anyone the Tories have to worry about.

I'd be worried if they elected someone like Caroline Flint but even that's not available to them....Instead one of them is suing her......I totally believe Flint by the way.

It certainly sounds like something Thornberry would say.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Ok your correct but not only have labour got gubbed,the dems are going to get gubbed as well.
I've had a win double.
You Maine..... havent.

I'll say it again - the last parliament was rotten.

Passionate Remainers will never change their mind which is their right. However that leaves people who may have reluctantly voted Remain possibly because they were scared of such a big change.

As long as the economy continues to do well I think over time those people will accept the new status quo the same way they accepted being in the EU as the old status quo.

Some of the concerns of people should be put to bed pretty quickly. How we travel around the EU will be a visible consequence of Brexit. If Boris can negotiate so that it is fairly painless that concern will wither away. It will be the same for those wishing to work in the EU. As long as they are qualified I don't expect they will have problems.

The rest of the stuff e.g. workers rights or the environment is down to Parliament. If they don't like the laws no doubt they will vote accordingly at the next GE.

It won't be quick but I do see the country moving on and the complaints will simply be the usual for or against the government of the day.

One more point

worth joining the Labour party, just to vote for Thornberry as leader, guarantees Labour will never win a GE for years!

Hardly slander.

A valid criticism. I guess I am still full of rage about people who tried to render my vote on June 23rd as an irrelevance.

For me the healing is nothing to do with how people voted on June 23rd. Voting Remain was a perfectly valid choice and I am sure many people did so for the most positive of reasons although ultimately if they tossed a coin, their vote is still perfectly acceptable.

My ire is aimed solely at those who sort post-June 23rd to effectively make my vote pointless. It is those I struggle to exchange a civil word with these days and it scares me how fragile our democracy truly is, with the biggest danger posed by those who attempt to present themselves as the most virtuous in our society.

But they lose. And ended up with a huge Tory majority, free to do what it wants for their pains.

Perhaps the best way now is to just let the issue fade. There is a process and that will be followed through on, for good and bad.

One less star on that s***ty flag is definitely a good start and I will relish the tears on January 31st but beyond that, just a nasty taste in the mouth and a certain sadness because I have lost a huge amount of respect for people who whilst I might have disagreed with them on a vast swathe of subjects, I still assumed they knew right from wrong. More fool me on that.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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