Not my fault if my posts are misread and then misrepresented. Do you seriously expect me just to ignore that?

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I doubt any of us will ever understand how he keeps going on and on about the referendum and its result.
It is all done and dusted and his side lost but he still goes on and on like record repeating the same old rubbish put across in different ways. His kind of person will only EVER see his own point of view and will treat us as though we do not count.
Personally I think he is punching above his weight and needs to wind his neck in and realise that he is NOT always right............

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

Oh I see...what you've been proved wrong on is in thinking that other people would agree with you.....Not that you were wrong on anything politically.

Jesus, sweet mother of pearl.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

WOW!

Just...wow.... I.... wow.....

Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

Oh gawd! Are you ready?
Get your coffee and your neck pillow out

Good old Ann, we can land a man on the moon, but sadly not on Annie.

I don't think you would be either interested or agree with me but pm me if you really want to know. I have posted on this before too.

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Back to the subject in hand she was right and the Dutch lady showed why we are leaving. She didn't like our electoral system well that is a matter for this country and until Brexit the EU never seemed to have a problem with it before.

Ann's main point was about freedom of movement that's not why I voted to leave but I suspect it was for many. I am convinced that if the EU had given Cameron some wriggle room your side would have won.

As I said the other day once freedom of movement to the UK ends where will the low skill people go and if it is in large numbers will those countries be as welcoming as us? I don't know but my suspicion is that what is seen as a British obsession may soon become an EU one.

One more point

They were both right.

Freedom of movement was the idea motivating many people, although I am not so sure everyone understood it and somehow thought that we would see reduced immigration as a consequence.

The main point being made by the "Dutch Lady" was not that at all. I don't think anyone argues that freedom of movement was a major factor in the Brexit vote. Her point was that under our fptp system the Tories only got a minority of the votes at the recent election, but a huge majority in Parliament.

For sure that's our business but she has every right to point it out as it happens to be true and the truth never hurt anyone. So long as Ann Widdecombe, or anyone else, go on in their time warp failing to recognise the truth of that, the longer it will be before we can get our system the reforms it so clearly needs. Attitudes like that are a drag anchor on the UK and it's ability to take it's place in the modern world.

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You know very well that I don't believe in referendums. Period.

However, in a binary vote PR is not relevant. You cannot transfer a yes to a no. If three options were on offer then it would be suitable.

When voting for a balanced Parliament which ensures that all strands of opinion are fairly represented it is the only system capable of doing so.

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