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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
What happened? There was a flypast of spitfires as the sun rose this morning. I turned on my cold tap and good old british ale came out instead of water and non indigenous birds such as parakeets left the nests they stole from British birds to allow more nightingales to sing sweetly once again.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Does it matter who interviewed him? Surely the issue is what was said. Come on Dermot I expect a higher quality of debate from you. Because she's an interviewer without substance. The £350m a week figure was shown to be inaccurate early in the campaign and Leave dropped it, tacitly admitting it to be so. So why harp on about it now? And for her to suggest that that claim influenced people's voting intentions is, frankly, an insult to the intelligence.
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Age analysis showing a sample of how people intended to vote. Edited by nickgusset (24 Jun 2016 12.15pm)
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Because she's an interviewer without substance. The £350m a week figure was shown to be inaccurate early in the campaign and Leave dropped it, tacitly admitting it to be so. So why harp on about it now? And for her to suggest that that claim influenced people's voting intentions is, frankly, an insult to the intelligence. Wasn't widely reported though was it, unless you can show me otherwise.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Pound down ten percent. Bet loads of city types lost money yesterday. Bloody polls. Coming over here and getting predictions wrong! Will be light trading (light volume) overnight. Expected a bounce and there was one as soon as Carney spoke. A bounce of 50% back to the high last night.
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Originally posted by Willo
Champagne all round in the WILLO household. Celebrating today with all my BREXIT campaigners so no time to get involved in any debate at the moment !!!! Absolutely fantastic !!!!!
I predict that in a few months time you will be one of the very few still admitting to have voted out. We have just committed collective suicide. I am deeply ashamed of my fellow citizens this morning. I truly thought we were better than that. I knew that there were many selfish prats, and some who really believed we would be better off outside the EU, but I could not imagine it being a majority. The most depressing, shameful day of my 72 years. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (24 Jun 2016 9.56am)
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I predict that in a few months time you will be one of the very few still admitting to have voted out. We have just committed collective suicide. I am deeply ashamed of my fellow citizens this morning. I truly thought we were better than that. I knew that there were many selfish prats, and some who really believed we would be better off outside the EU, but I could not imagine it being a majority. The most depressing, shameful day of my 72 years. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (24 Jun 2016 9.56am) Selfish for wanting milkions of pounds spent on issues here and not on fats cats in brussels? Guilt as charged.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I predict that in a few months time you will be one of the very few still admitting to have voted out. We have just committed collective suicide. I am deeply ashamed of my fellow citizens this morning. I truly thought we were better than that. I knew that there were many selfish prats, and some who really believed we would be better off outside the EU, but I could not imagine it being a majority. The most depressing, shameful day of my 72 years. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (24 Jun 2016 9.56am) It's called democracy, in its purest and most unalloyed form. At least 17m people don't agree with you.
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Because she's an interviewer without substance. The £350m a week figure was shown to be inaccurate early in the campaign and Leave dropped it, tacitly admitting it to be so. So why harp on about it now? And for her to suggest that that claim influenced people's voting intentions is, frankly, an insult to the intelligence. Why then, am I not seeing what you assert on google searches?
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Will be light trading (light volume) overnight. Expected a bounce and there was one as soon as Carney spoke. A bounce of 50% back to the high last night. The UK market is down, but European markets have taken it even worse. I suspect some kind of bounce, but I don't think it will return immediately. I think the UK will be financially or economically weaker if it completely leaves the European trade agreement. What we need now is coherence, sensibly and a pulling togeather of the nation behind what was one of the first really democratic decisions of the UK in its history. I think now is the time to secure how we will progress outside of the EU, and notably how we as the to deliver on the reasons why people voted to leave - most significant of these is freedom of movement and delivering stability and employment with fair wages into working class areas, which were very vocal in their decision to leave. Its not a thing to celebrate, I don't see it as something won by Leave, but a representation of what the people want and desire.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Why then, am I not seeing what you assert on google searches? What are you looking for, exactly?
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Farage has said on Good Morning Britain today that £350 million won't be going to the NHS and that 'it was a mistake to say that' The backtracking started before the official result had even been declared, with Nigel Farage saying the £350 million NHS claim was a ‘mistake’. Official Leave campaign adverts on posters and buses claimed: ‘Let’s give our NHS the £350 million the EU takes every week’ and ‘We send the EU £350 million a week, let’s fund our NHS instead’. But speaking on Good Morning Britain, the Ukip leader said he could not guarantee it would be possible and the Leave campaign should not have said it. Susanna Reid, questioning him, asked: ‘That’s why many people have voted! You’re saying after 17 million people have voted for Leave – and that (advert) was a huge part of the propaganda. Shown as the shallow popularist that he is. A say anything politician. Of course its irrelevant because he's not in a position to say how that money will be spent.
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
It's called democracy, in its purest and most unalloyed form. At least 17m people don't agree with you. Exactly, and it shows just how divorced party politics is from the people and why we can only truly achieve representation through a proportional representation. If left to General Elections, this would never have occurred.
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Originally posted by Sportyteacher
'The prospect of shutting down the right to free movement is frightening, as are the consequences of a campaign that has at times pitted neighbours against one another, whipped up fear and allowed lies and myths to take the place of truth.' (Caroline Lucas MP) Yes of course Caroline Lucas, 'The prospect of shutting down the right to free movement is frightening.' We were all frightened when we didn't have free movement and couldn't cope or understand why we never had it. There are things such as Visa's and passports you ignorant ***. The floodgates opened in 2004. The housing crisis started hitting the headlines in 2005 ish. No plans for housing were made then and still aren't now. I'm not saying free movement instantly impacted on housing because the initial migration stats were low, but that gave the remainers a chance to say the AVERAGE immigration figures were x and not 330,000 and rising.
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
It's called democracy, in its purest and most unalloyed form. At least 17m people don't agree with you. How many of those 17million really looked into the issues before making an informed decision rather than relying on hyperbole. As I've said, I accept the result and came very close to voting leave myself, but for very different reasons than most I expect. But now is not the time for 'told you so's.' No one wants things to go tits up for purposes of one upmanship. It's time to think about the way forward now and discuss what we want an 'independent' UK to look like. Do we want one that genuinely looks after the interests of Joe public or one that is just more of the same austerity and siphoning of cash from have nots to tyhe haves? To look on the bright side, it's a real opportunity to exact change for the benefit of all UK citizens. Sadly, if we see the same old neoliberals taking the rudder, I can't see it happening.
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Yes of course Caroline Lucas, 'The prospect of shutting down the right to free movement is frightening.' We were all frightened when we didn't have free movement and couldn't cope or understand why we never had it. There are things such as Visa's and passports you ignorant ***. The floodgates opened in 2004. The housing crisis started hitting the headlines in 2005 ish. No plans for housing were made then and still aren't now. I'm not saying free movement instantly impacted on housing because the initial migration stats were low, but that gave the remainers a chance to say the AVERAGE immigration figures were x and not 330,000 and rising. Enough of the name calling young man! just accept differences of opinion.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Bet Putin is a happy man today. Yes, he is the sole beneficiary of this result. If his name had been bought into the pre-referendum discussions, ballot papers bearing a cross in the bottom option would have been in a serious minority.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
How many of those 17million really looked into the issues before making an informed decision rather than relying on hyperbole. As I've said, I accept the result and came very close to voting leave myself, but for very different reasons than most I expect. But now is not the time for 'told you so's.' No one wants things to go tits up for purposes of one upmanship. It's time to think about the way forward now and discuss what we want an 'independent' UK to look like. Do we want one that genuinely looks after the interests of Joe public or one that is just more of the same austerity and siphoning of cash from have nots to tyhe haves? To look on the bright side, it's a real opportunity to exact change for the benefit of all UK citizens. Sadly, if we see the same old neoliberals taking the rudder, I can't see it happening. I think you underestimate people's intelligence. People voted based on experience and on what they see. The beauty of this referendum is that it completely transcended party politics and, personally, I don't think nearly as many people as you seem to believe were influenced by the shenanigans on both sides: in fact, I think it probably convinced them (if they still needed it) that politicians are a bunch of selfish, narcissistic w@nkers. This result of this referendum wasn't just to give the EU the finger - it was to flip the bird at the entire political class. We should have them more often.
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