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| W12 17 Jan 20 9.06am | |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
This thread is just going around in parliamentary procedure circles without getting to the core point which is, why does leaving the EU cause such a problem with remainers? What overwhelming benefits have we received over the years which justify us staying in? We are a huge net payer rather than receiver into the EU system so what benefits have we had as a country from that relationship? I don’t need an essay response to this, just please tell me what exactly we are going to be missing out on by leaving. This is the information people need to know, but it is talked about very little. Nothing (although I don't trust the Tories to execute this properly e.g. there seem to be some very dodgy agreements already made concerning defense) , but it's becoming clear that the establishment will do their best to reverse this in short order. I don't trust the tories at all especially as the political focus post Brexit *must* switch to immigration and demographics.
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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 17 Jan 20 9.57am |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
This thread is just going around in parliamentary procedure circles without getting to the core point which is, why does leaving the EU cause such a problem with remainers? What overwhelming benefits have we received over the years which justify us staying in? We are a huge net payer rather than receiver into the EU system so what benefits have we had as a country from that relationship? I don’t need an essay response to this, just please tell me what exactly we are going to be missing out on by leaving. This is the information people need to know, but it is talked about very little. It's much more than just the single market and free movement. It's our security and place in a fast changing world. A world soon to be dominated by China, India etc and not the USA. A Europe threatened by Russian expansionism. In a single word. Peace. Many things can be done better when done together than when done alone. Tackling climate change, protecting the environment, common standards, influencing international developments, developing the economy, negotiating trade deals. In a single word. Progress.
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| Stirlingsays 17 Jan 20 10.31am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
IF YOU ALL IGNORED WISBECH HE WOULDN’T BE REPLYING TO ANYONE AFTER HIS USUAL FIRST REPLY LECTURE HE’S POSTED 678 TIMES BEFORE. Ignore Wisbech and he’ll stick to the progressive idyllic countrysiders alliance sites, with several square miles of personal space before they see anyone, let alone a daily problem many have to put up with that is out of sight and out of mind down in perfect Truro. Truro ffs, and he’s telling everyone how it is. Ignore him. Edited by Rudi Hedman (17 Jan 2020 9.09am) Good advice, hard to stick to, but the better option.
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| DANGERCLOSE London 17 Jan 20 10.46am |
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| DANGERCLOSE London 17 Jan 20 10.49am |
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| susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 17 Jan 20 11.57am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Good advice, hard to stick to, but the better option. As you say hard to do but the better option as he does go on and on and on and does not know when to stop.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Jan 20 12.11pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
IF YOU ALL IGNORED WISBECH HE WOULDN’T BE REPLYING TO ANYONE AFTER HIS USUAL FIRST REPLY LECTURE HE’S POSTED 678 TIMES BEFORE. Ignore Wisbech and he’ll stick to the progressive idyllic countrysiders alliance sites, with several square miles of personal space before they see anyone, let alone a daily problem many have to put up with that is out of sight and out of mind down in perfect Truro. Truro ffs, and he’s telling everyone how it is. Ignore him. Edited by Rudi Hedman (17 Jan 2020 9.09am) Advice I have offered you myself several times! Would you like me to tell you the names of some good estate agents here? There are many nice homes for sale and the prices are significantly lower than in London. There are even real jobs available. No need to be envious. I'll even introduce you to Jane. Tintagel Breweries "Arthur's" is a great ale. You can follow events in London, and elsewhere, just as I do. Through visits, TV and the other media. You won't feel the least bit isolated from your reasons to be unhappy. With FlyBe's future looking secured you can get to London in an hour. They are about to switch back to Gatwick from Heathrow so even better for you. Gotta rush. The dogs (we have two now) want to play on the beach and the sun is out.
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| Stirlingsays 17 Jan 20 12.38pm |
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Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE
[Tweet Link]If the funds are not raised by Monday it'll be done via recording from parliament square on loudspeaker. We shall not be denied by officialdom.
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| Eaglecoops CR3 17 Jan 20 12.38pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Advice I have offered you myself several times! Would you like me to tell you the names of some good estate agents here? There are many nice homes for sale and the prices are significantly lower than in London. There are even real jobs available. No need to be envious. I'll even introduce you to Jane. Tintagel Breweries "Arthur's" is a great ale. You can follow events in London, and elsewhere, just as I do. Through visits, TV and the other media. You won't feel the least bit isolated from your reasons to be unhappy. With FlyBe's future looking secured you can get to London in an hour. They are about to switch back to Gatwick from Heathrow so even better for you. Gotta rush. The dogs (we have two now) want to play on the beach and the sun is out. WE, serious question, you are living amongst locals who believe in Independence for Cornwall. Some say it tongue in cheek, but many genuinely believe it, hate visitors and feel they should be a country on their own. On that basis, how does your political persuasion sit with the locals?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Jan 20 1.57pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
WE, serious question, you are living amongst locals who believe in Independence for Cornwall. Some say it tongue in cheek, but many genuinely believe it, hate visitors and feel they should be a country on their own. On that basis, how does your political persuasion sit with the locals? The people here are all really lovely, in my own experience anyway. I am sure there is a smattering of nutjobs but I have never encountered them. I play bowls and the club is split between "incomers" and locals and it's very harmonious. Some support the Welsh team on the rugby field, because of the Celtic connection, and some keep Cornish traditions like "Wrasslin" alive. I had to deal with the Town Councillors in Camborne a few years ago. The Council there is run by Mebyon Kernow which believes in Cornish nationalism. I had to make a presentation to them on a building project in the town which proposed quite significant changes. I was concerned on how they would react but they were more than helpful. They were polite, encouraging and supportive. My views on the EU are shared by many here. My local County Councillor, who I know quite well, is an ardent enthusiast for the EU and knows how important their contributions have been to various developments here, and worries greatly what happens next. Not all, of course. As elsewhere it seems most of the older people want Brexit, whilst most of the young don't. As we have a more than usual proportion of the elderly here you can imagine where the balance falls.
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| Eaglecoops CR3 17 Jan 20 2.10pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The people here are all really lovely, in my own experience anyway. I am sure there is a smattering of nutjobs but I have never encountered them. I play bowls and the club is split between "incomers" and locals and it's very harmonious. Some support the Welsh team on the rugby field, because of the Celtic connection, and some keep Cornish traditions like "Wrasslin" alive. I had to deal with the Town Councillors in Camborne a few years ago. The Council there is run by Mebyon Kernow which believes in Cornish nationalism. I had to make a presentation to them on a building project in the town which proposed quite significant changes. I was concerned on how they would react but they were more than helpful. They were polite, encouraging and supportive. My views on the EU are shared by many here. My local County Councillor, who I know quite well, is an ardent enthusiast for the EU and knows how important their contributions have been to various developments here, and worries greatly what happens next. Not all, of course. As elsewhere it seems most of the older people want Brexit, whilst most of the young don't. As we have a more than usual proportion of the elderly here you can imagine where the balance falls. Interesting, thanks for the response.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 17 Jan 20 2.14pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Good advice, hard to stick to, but the better option. You lose one tedious twit and you always get another. I have got bored with fencing with these idiots. They live in a delusion that won't end till they snuff it.
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| DANGERCLOSE London 17 Jan 20 2.16pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
If the funds are not raised by Monday it'll be done via recording from parliament square on loudspeaker. We shall not be denied by officialdom. Agreed We will celebrate our independence day
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We have waited over 3 years for this and our time has come | Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Jan 20 5.56pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You lose one tedious twit and you always get another. I have got bored with fencing with these idiots. They live in a delusion that won't end till they snuff it. Plenty of fencing work in Cornwall. Not badly paid either, although the weather can be a bit off putting at times. Doesn't require particularly high intellectual capacities so you should be OK. I am off to the pub tonight but I never do any preaching there. Too busy having fun, eating, drinking and playing pool.
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 17 Jan 20 5.59pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Plenty of fencing work in Cornwall. Not badly paid either, although the weather can be a bit off putting at times. Doesn't require particularly high intellectual capacities so you should be OK. Just cant help yourself can you?? My last word on WE.....ignoring him from now on.. Never preach in the pub? Maybe because someone would smack u in the mouth?? Edited by the silurian (17 Jan 2020 6.00pm)
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| Stirlingsays 17 Jan 20 6.37pm |
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Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE
Agreed We will celebrate our independence day I tip my hat sir.
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| Stirlingsays 17 Jan 20 6.41pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You lose one tedious twit and you always get another. I have got bored with fencing with these idiots. They live in a delusion that won't end till they snuff it.
As usual spot on Hrolf. Steely could be funny and we thought he could take a robust environment. But in the end he ended up going the same way as the rest of the tarts.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Jan 20 9.48pm |
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Originally posted by the silurian
Just cant help yourself can you?? My last word on WE.....ignoring him from now on.. Never preach in the pub? Maybe because someone would smack u in the mouth?? Edited by the silurian (17 Jan 2020 6.00pm) Not that sort of pub. I am just back from there. 2 pints is enough for me. We had a nice meal too. It's a friendly, family oriented, village pub that serves great food and is deservedly very popular. You wouldn't, I am 100% certain, recognise me from my persona here. I am an uncontroversial and, with all due modesty, pretty popular, figure in the locality. Very few know anything about my political views. Time and place etc!
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