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Ketteridge Brighton 25 Jun 21 9.21am
I’ve been a supporter of Parish , it looked like we had a plan to develop. We had a style of football that was not attractive but meant we could punch above our weight and remain in the Prem, we had a string of managers that were good a getting the best out of average players. I could laugh at the weed supporters with their grand ideas and plans as they struggled to go up or stay up and wasted money. Hodgson retiring has been discussed since last summer and we have been safe since February, why are we in the situation we are in now? Who is to blame for it? The one question I would like answered is why didn’t we act in March/April to get a smooth transition that could have seen us build a squad for next 3-5 years. Was it just a punt that someone would be better in the summer ? One supporter of hacking argued that without it "you will do away with the courage and pluck of the game, and I will be bound to bring over a lot of Frenchmen who would beat you with a week's practice -Blackheath secretary at first meeting of the F.A

Ketteridge

Brighton 25 Jun 21 9.21am

I’ve been a supporter of Parish , it looked like we had a plan to develop. We had a style of football that was not attractive but meant we could punch above our weight and remain in the Prem, we had a string of managers that were good a getting the best out of average players. I could laugh at the weed supporters with their grand ideas and plans as they struggled to go up or stay up and wasted money.
Hodgson retiring has been discussed since last summer and we have been safe since February, why are we in the situation we are in now? Who is to blame for it? The one question I would like answered is why didn’t we act in March/April to get a smooth transition that could have seen us build a squad for next 3-5 years. Was it just a punt that someone would be better in the summer ?

One supporter of hacking argued that without it "you will do away with the courage and pluck of the game, and I will be bound to bring over a lot of Frenchmen who would beat you with a week's practice -Blackheath secretary at first meeting of the F.A

Den1923 25 Jun 21 9.23am
Originally posted by Eaglecoops People keep banging on about the fact everything is ok because Everton or Tottenham don’t have a manager yet. Well, we are not Everton or Spurs and I couldn’t give a damn about their managerial situation. Also, neither of those teams have half their squad out of contract. This is rapidly becoming a farcical situation that the club have allowed themselves to get into. Roy, by his own admission told Parish he was leaving well before the end of the season and the management knew the position regarding player contracts. The potential pre season issues have been known from the moment Roy informed Parish he was leaving. Well said, complete shambles, FdB saga all over again, the lack of a squad and poor transfer budget means that no decent manager is going to want a job that is doomed to failure [Link] To not have a manager in place at this point is pretty poor.

Den1923

25 Jun 21 9.23am

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

People keep banging on about the fact everything is ok because Everton or Tottenham don’t have a manager yet. Well, we are not Everton or Spurs and I couldn’t give a damn about their managerial situation. Also, neither of those teams have half their squad out of contract.

This is rapidly becoming a farcical situation that the club have allowed themselves to get into. Roy, by his own admission told Parish he was leaving well before the end of the season and the management knew the position regarding player contracts. The potential pre season issues have been known from the moment Roy informed Parish he was leaving.

Well said, complete shambles, FdB saga all over again, the lack of a squad and poor transfer budget means that no decent manager is going to want a job that is doomed to failure [Link]

To not have a manager in place at this point is pretty poor.

Mojo87 25 Jun 21 9.28am
Agreed on some of the responses towards Allardyce. It's by far not ideal but we need a manager appointed ASAP! Give him 18 months max to handle the transition of players whilst feeling assured with a full season we're kept in the Prem as opposed to appointing someone else that we're clearly not set on, only to sack them before Xmas and get Allardyce then. As someone said don't really care about Spurs or Everton's managerial woes least for the fact ours have more severe implications on relegation probability and half our squad in out of contract within the week! Whilst Allardyce is interim manager the board need to take a long hard look at what they want in a manager to drive this club to long-term success and bring the right in and appointed come 1st June 2022 Again all of this is on the basis of not faffing around looking for someone else if it can't be done this weekend. I wouldn't even be opposed to Allardyce and Edin Terzic as Assistant with the view Edin takes over permanently in 2022...takes the pressure of Edin and he gets familiarity to the club rather than being thrown in the deep end

Mojo87

25 Jun 21 9.28am

Agreed on some of the responses towards Allardyce.

It's by far not ideal but we need a manager appointed ASAP!

Give him 18 months max to handle the transition of players whilst feeling assured with a full season we're kept in the Prem as opposed to appointing someone else that we're clearly not set on, only to sack them before Xmas and get Allardyce then.

As someone said don't really care about Spurs or Everton's managerial woes least for the fact ours have more severe implications on relegation probability and half our squad in out of contract within the week!

Whilst Allardyce is interim manager the board need to take a long hard look at what they want in a manager to drive this club to long-term success and bring the right in and appointed come 1st June 2022

Again all of this is on the basis of not faffing around looking for someone else if it can't be done this weekend.

I wouldn't even be opposed to Allardyce and Edin Terzic as Assistant with the view Edin takes over permanently in 2022...takes the pressure of Edin and he gets familiarity to the club rather than being thrown in the deep end

martin2412 Living The Dream 25 Jun 21 9.33am
Originally posted by Ketteridge I’ve been a supporter of Parish , it looked like we had a plan to develop. We had a style of football that was not attractive but meant we could punch above our weight and remain in the Prem, we had a string of managers that were good a getting the best out of average players. I could laugh at the weed supporters with their grand ideas and plans as they struggled to go up or stay up and wasted money. Hodgson retiring has been discussed since last summer and we have been safe since February, why are we in the situation we are in now? Who is to blame for it? The one question I would like answered is why didn’t we act in March/April to get a smooth transition that could have seen us build a squad for next 3-5 years. Was it just a punt that someone would be better in the summer ? I reckon that the reason Parish leaves everything to the last minute is because he doesn't want to pay anyone for a few extra weeks if he doesn't have to. If he signed a player in June but they didn't play until August he probably thinks he's being stitched up. Oy vey.

martin2412

Living The Dream 25 Jun 21 9.33am

Originally posted by Ketteridge

I reckon that the reason Parish leaves everything to the last minute is because he doesn't want to pay anyone for a few extra weeks if he doesn't have to. If he signed a player in June but they didn't play until August he probably thinks he's being stitched up. Oy vey.

CrazyBadger Ware 25 Jun 21 9.37am
Originally posted by crvenaeagle Haha, that's very bloody different mate. "Do you get approached by multimillion pound companies asking you to work for them?" would be a more accurate question. Thought I heard somewhere that Favre's agent approached Us... Absolutely gutted by this news. I am trying to arrange a lads holiday, part of which is an 'adrenaline' activity. One chap, while hesitant, was very much feck it, lets do it. I've now asked him to pay for it and commit, (so I can book), and he doesn't want to in case he arrives, and really doesn't want to do it! He just needs some reassurance that he's not a big girl and that it's all safe and it'll be good fun! It seems to me that Favre has the same commitment issues. Very common in all walks of life. I reckon his Agent has gotten him the interview, said to just sound it out and that he can always turn it down if he doesn't fancy it. Hard to blame SP for either NES or this, the only thing he can be levelled at him is a 'grass is always greener' attitude. I'd imagine even SP must be wondering how this one got away from him. Thing that I don't get is that apparently most parties come away impressed with the vision the club has. Is this just PaperTalk? a way to soften the blow? if It was that good a project, then they should be all over it, right? "It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

CrazyBadger

Ware 25 Jun 21 9.37am

Originally posted by crvenaeagle

Haha, that's very bloody different mate.
"Do you get approached by multimillion pound companies asking you to work for them?" would be a more accurate question.

Thought I heard somewhere that Favre's agent approached Us...

Absolutely gutted by this news.

I am trying to arrange a lads holiday, part of which is an 'adrenaline' activity. One chap, while hesitant, was very much feck it, lets do it. I've now asked him to pay for it and commit, (so I can book), and he doesn't want to in case he arrives, and really doesn't want to do it!
He just needs some reassurance that he's not a big girl and that it's all safe and it'll be good fun!

It seems to me that Favre has the same commitment issues. Very common in all walks of life. I reckon his Agent has gotten him the interview, said to just sound it out and that he can always turn it down if he doesn't fancy it.

Hard to blame SP for either NES or this, the only thing he can be levelled at him is a 'grass is always greener' attitude. I'd imagine even SP must be wondering how this one got away from him.

Thing that I don't get is that apparently most parties come away impressed with the vision the club has. Is this just PaperTalk? a way to soften the blow? if It was that good a project, then they should be all over it, right?

"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

Aray South London 25 Jun 21 9.40am
I'm not a believer that the club is well run. Anyone who endures the matchday or ticketing experience knows that isn't the case. Or know, as I do, the haphazard approach to engaging with potential business opportunities. However, on this Do me a Favre (had to be done)...sorry but he's a wrong un. I believe the accounts that he approached us, after all he isn't employed had we spotted him (right) then he'd have been tapped up as soon as Roy left. He's clearly had second thoughts and fair enough. If he turns up elsewhere in the next month I will be buying a voodoo doll.

Aray

South London 25 Jun 21 9.40am

I'm not a believer that the club is well run. Anyone who endures the matchday or ticketing experience knows that isn't the case. Or know, as I do, the haphazard approach to engaging with potential business opportunities. However, on this Do me a Favre (had to be done)...sorry but he's a wrong un.

I believe the accounts that he approached us, after all he isn't employed had we spotted him (right) then he'd have been tapped up as soon as Roy left.

He's clearly had second thoughts and fair enough. If he turns up elsewhere in the next month I will be buying a voodoo doll.

Frickin Saweet South Cronx 25 Jun 21 9.52am
Originally posted by sydtheeagle My understanding is that it was the other way around but if you're correct (and I'm not saying you're not) then his behaviour is far more worthy of contempt. I'm not pretending to be ITK but I do have a mate who works at Palace and he told me that and a few other things during the course of the appointment process that have since come to light in the media. However even he says that unless you're Parish, Freedman or Moody, or happen to see a managerial candidate drinking in the pub around the corner from the Soho office, then no one knows 100% what's happening - it's just the rumours and hearsay that spreads around the office.

Frickin Saweet

South Cronx 25 Jun 21 9.52am

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

My understanding is that it was the other way around but if you're correct (and I'm not saying you're not) then his behaviour is far more worthy of contempt.

I'm not pretending to be ITK but I do have a mate who works at Palace and he told me that and a few other things during the course of the appointment process that have since come to light in the media. However even he says that unless you're Parish, Freedman or Moody, or happen to see a managerial candidate drinking in the pub around the corner from the Soho office, then no one knows 100% what's happening - it's just the rumours and hearsay that spreads around the office.

Putitout Oxford 25 Jun 21 9.54am
As things have panned out, Allardyce, wouldn’t be the worst option by far. The problem being there is every reason to believe that his real reason for walking away previously was the very reason we can’t attract a decent manager now.. it looks more and more as if it’s a case of people not fancying the base set up at the club, and with the present state of play regarding contracts , ownership issues, and the lack of player investment over a period. Who could blame them? Dougie, hovers.

Putitout

Oxford 25 Jun 21 9.54am

As things have panned out, Allardyce, wouldn’t be the worst option by far. The problem being there is every reason to believe that his real reason for walking away previously was the very reason we can’t attract a decent manager now.. it looks more and more as if it’s a case of people not fancying the base set up at the club, and with the present state of play regarding contracts , ownership issues, and the lack of player investment over a period. Who could blame them?
Dougie, hovers.

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Jun 21 9.57am
I have received a plethora of calls/texts since the news about Favre broke, being inquisitive and expressing an array of opinions apropos the way forward. I am reminded of the adage "There's many a slip 'twixt the cup and the lip". Edited by Willo (25 Jun 2021 10.54am)

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Jun 21 9.57am

I have received a plethora of calls/texts since the news about Favre broke, being inquisitive and expressing an array of opinions apropos the way forward.

I am reminded of the adage "There's many a slip 'twixt the cup and the lip".

Edited by Willo (25 Jun 2021 10.54am)

nead1 25 Jun 21 9.57am
As others have said, its certainly a huge disappointment but better that the concerns come out now rather than a few weeks into the job. My personal instincts would now be to go the internal route with Freedman, Derry and McCarthy with perhaps Mark Bright becoming the Sporting Director. They all know the club/players extremely well, can clearly work well together/with Parish and understand the depth of the task. The other alternatives don't look so attractive and have already been considered/rejected. The only wild card could be Silva and there are definite pluses with him although he never seems to last anywhere very long and seems loyal only to himself. If I recall, Palace were potentially interested in him before he went to Watford so there is some history there. Either way, the need to make an appointment is clearly now very urgent.

nead1

25 Jun 21 9.57am

As others have said, its certainly a huge disappointment but better that the concerns come out now rather than a few weeks into the job. My personal instincts would now be to go the internal route with Freedman, Derry and McCarthy with perhaps Mark Bright becoming the Sporting Director. They all know the club/players extremely well, can clearly work well together/with Parish and understand the depth of the task.
The other alternatives don't look so attractive and have already been considered/rejected. The only wild card could be Silva and there are definite pluses with him although he never seems to last anywhere very long and seems loyal only to himself. If I recall, Palace were potentially interested in him before he went to Watford so there is some history there. Either way, the need to make an appointment is clearly now very urgent.

croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 25 Jun 21 9.59am
Originally posted by eag-les Fcuk him... move on Get Frankie in

croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 25 Jun 21 9.59am

Originally posted by eag-les

Fcuk him... move on
Get Frankie in

CPFC1965 Warrington 25 Jun 21 10.00am
If he doesn't want to be our manager 5hen that's the end of it. At the end of the day if we get relegated Parish and the Yanks are going to take the financial hit. We'll get someone in, they may not be very inspiring, there was a collective groan when Roy walked through doors. But what I want more than ever is for someone to give that odious muck spreader Dazza a RED CARD.

CPFC1965

Warrington 25 Jun 21 10.00am

If he doesn't want to be our manager 5hen that's the end of it. At the end of the day if we get relegated Parish and the Yanks are going to take the financial hit. We'll get someone in, they may not be very inspiring, there was a collective groan when Roy walked through doors. But what I want more than ever is for someone to give that odious muck spreader Dazza a RED CARD.

Eaglecoops CR3 25 Jun 21 10.00am
Much as it pains me to say it and I hasten to say I don’t like the man, BFS is probably the right manager for next season. He understands the player market and generally buys well. I wouldn’t call it a progressive appointment, but maybe a prudent one.

Eaglecoops

CR3 25 Jun 21 10.00am

Much as it pains me to say it and I hasten to say I don’t like the man, BFS is probably the right manager for next season. He understands the player market and generally buys well. I wouldn’t call it a progressive appointment, but maybe a prudent one.

fish mitten Chelmsford 25 Jun 21 10.02am
We now appear to be in the situation of the bloke in a nightclub, who has gone along in a group with a couple of girls who are reasonable (Howe, Lampard) and he probably stands a decent chance with. However, he goes off in pursuit of the stunning girls (Nuno, Favre) and spends the night buying them drinks in the hope he can pull them. They have listened to him and realised that whilst he was never that attractive, he's not rich either. They can wait for another night. A bloke with a Mercedes rather than one with a Ford will come along tomorrow night or the one after. It's approaching the end of the night and we are becoming desperate. We are now faced with going back to the girls we came along with who know they ain't even first or second choice and will probably tell us to do one (unless they are equally desperate). However, over in the corner is our ex (Freedman). We went out with her for quite awhile, most of the time she was fat, frumpy and boring. Towards the end of the relationship she lost weight and become sexy but within weeks of this she dumped us for a better offer. She's not single, fat and frumpy again. Really should have gone for one of the reasonable girls we came long with. They may not be perfect, but we are certainly not either.

fish mitten

Chelmsford 25 Jun 21 10.02am

We now appear to be in the situation of the bloke in a nightclub, who has gone along in a group with a couple of girls who are reasonable (Howe, Lampard) and he probably stands a decent chance with. However, he goes off in pursuit of the stunning girls (Nuno, Favre) and spends the night buying them drinks in the hope he can pull them.

They have listened to him and realised that whilst he was never that attractive, he's not rich either. They can wait for another night. A bloke with a Mercedes rather than one with a Ford will come along tomorrow night or the one after.

It's approaching the end of the night and we are becoming desperate. We are now faced with going back to the girls we came along with who know they ain't even first or second choice and will probably tell us to do one (unless they are equally desperate).

Really should have gone for one of the reasonable girls we came long with. They may not be perfect, but we are certainly not either.

crystal-purley Purley 25 Jun 21 10.03am
Originally posted by dreamwaverider We have clearly got some deep rooted problems at the club. Our board and management keeps so much secret it is hard to pinpoint it. But for years we have struggled with our transfer policies. Why does it always take so long to sign players. And always so late in the window. Look at how many players we have allegedly lost at the last minute. From the outside looking in, we have a total lack of interest from our majority owners. Our managing owner, SP, clearly struggles with recruitment. He appears a very insular person. We are right now in a dire position. No manager. Really queered our patch yet again trying to find one. Other than Roy, it has never been smooth. Pullis , BFS, FDB, now, Lampard,Nuno, Favre. I can’t believe all these people are the problem. There’s is something very wrong. All our older players out of contract. Lack of recruitment. Youngsters not being utilised despite spending fortunes on the academy. The future is not looking good this morning. What a mess. I hate to think what our odds must be for relegation. The main stand saga. Lack of funds. The on going covid restrictions. No real buyers to put us on a surer footing. Not good. Everything is uncertain. Zaha, Ezy injury. It just goes on and on. Even on a personal note, season tickets. Finally sorted mine after as usual the box office had completely messed up my credits etc. But even now there is no clear policy on restricted games etc. Remember the total muddle with the Ultras seating. Roy gone not looking so sensible now. What a bloody shambles. I am finding it hard to see any light today. Oh dear oh dear. God give us strength. Edited by dreamwaverider (25 Jun 2021 7.43am) Edited by dreamwaverider (25 Jun 2021 7.48am) Good post and this is pretty much how I feel at the moment. We should all realise that the Premier league is both a pot of gold (if you have additional income other than gate and Sky money) and a poisoned chalice (if you don't) but we have to stay there to a keep afloat and b finally rebuild the main/old stand. Sadly I don't think Roy will come back so for me it will be someone already at the club leaving either Dougie or Shaun. There are hard times coming and some gnashing of teeth. Enjoying getting up later and not having someone who knows better than me (apart from the missus of course).

crystal-purley

Purley 25 Jun 21 10.03am

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

We have clearly got some deep rooted problems at the club. Our board and management keeps so much secret it is hard to pinpoint it. But for years we have struggled with our transfer policies. Why does it always take so long to sign players. And always so late in the window. Look at how many players we have allegedly lost at the last minute. From the outside looking in, we have a total lack of interest from our majority owners. Our managing owner, SP, clearly struggles with recruitment. He appears a very insular person. We are right now in a dire position. No manager. Really queered our patch yet again trying to find one. Other than Roy, it has never been smooth. Pullis , BFS, FDB, now, Lampard,Nuno, Favre. I can’t believe all these people are the problem. There’s is something very wrong. All our older players out of contract. Lack of recruitment. Youngsters not being utilised despite spending fortunes on the academy. The future is not looking good this morning. What a mess. I hate to think what our odds must be for relegation. The main stand saga. Lack of funds. The on going covid restrictions. No real buyers to put us on a surer footing. Not good. Everything is uncertain. Zaha, Ezy injury. It just goes on and on. Even on a personal note, season tickets. Finally sorted mine after as usual the box office had completely messed up my credits etc. But even now there is no clear policy on restricted games etc. Remember the total muddle with the Ultras seating. Roy gone not looking so sensible now. What a bloody shambles. I am finding it hard to see any light today. Oh dear oh dear. God give us strength.

Edited by dreamwaverider (25 Jun 2021 7.43am)

Edited by dreamwaverider (25 Jun 2021 7.48am)

Good post and this is pretty much how I feel at the moment. We should all realise that the Premier league is both a pot of gold (if you have additional income other than gate and Sky money) and a poisoned chalice (if you don't) but we have to stay there to a keep afloat and b finally rebuild the main/old stand.
Sadly I don't think Roy will come back so for me it will be someone already at the club leaving either Dougie or Shaun.
There are hard times coming and some gnashing of teeth.

Enjoying getting up later and not having someone who knows better than me (apart from the missus of course).

Teo15 25 Jun 21 10.05am
Dare I say it, championship here we come

Teo15

25 Jun 21 10.05am

Dare I say it, championship here we come

salop-eagle 25 Jun 21 10.05am
How about Steve Clarke? Down to earth, Premier League experience at both ends and generally works with limited resources.

salop-eagle

25 Jun 21 10.05am

How about Steve Clarke?
Down to earth, Premier League experience at both ends and generally works with limited resources.

CrazyBadger Ware 25 Jun 21 10.07am
Originally posted by fish mitten We now appear to be in the situation of the bloke in a nightclub, who has gone along in a group with a couple of girls who are reasonable (Howe, Lampard) and he probably stands a decent chance with. However, he goes off in pursuit of the stunning girls (Nuno, Favre) and spends the night buying them drinks in the hope he can pull them. They have listened to him and realised that whilst he was never that attractive, he's not rich either. They can wait for another night. A bloke with a Mercedes rather than one with a Ford will come along tomorrow night or the one after. It's approaching the end of the night and we are becoming desperate. We are now faced with going back to the girls we came along with who know they ain't even first or second choice and will probably tell us to do one (unless they are equally desperate). However, over in the corner is our ex (Freedman). We went out with her for quite awhile, most of the time she was fat, frumpy and boring. Towards the end of the relationship she lost weight and become sexy but within weeks of this she dumped us for a better offer. She's not single, fat and frumpy again. Really should have gone for one of the reasonable girls we came long with. They may not be perfect, but we are certainly not either. How do you know that's not the beer goggles ? "It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

CrazyBadger

Ware 25 Jun 21 10.07am

Originally posted by fish mitten

However, over in the corner is our ex (Freedman). We went out with her for quite awhile, most of the time she was fat, frumpy and boring. Towards the end of the relationship she lost weight and become sexy but within weeks of this she dumped us for a better offer.
She's not single, fat and frumpy again.

Really should have gone for one of the reasonable girls we came long with. They may not be perfect, but we are certainly not either.

How do you know that's not the beer goggles ?

"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

davehuggins 25 Jun 21 10.08am
Let's hope I am wrong but all this uncertainty and indecision spells a season full of trouble to me. As a club we knew RH was off so why all this failure????

davehuggins

25 Jun 21 10.08am

Let's hope I am wrong but all this uncertainty and indecision spells a season full of trouble to me. As a club we knew RH was off so why all this failure????

pompeyeagle Relocated to Shropshire 25 Jun 21 10.12am
Originally posted by Mojo87 Agreed on some of the responses towards Allardyce. It's by far not ideal but we need a manager appointed ASAP! Give him 18 months max to handle the transition of players whilst feeling assured with a full season we're kept in the Prem as opposed to appointing someone else that we're clearly not set on, only to sack them before Xmas and get Allardyce then. As someone said don't really care about Spurs or Everton's managerial woes least for the fact ours have more severe implications on relegation probability and half our squad in out of contract within the week! Whilst Allardyce is interim manager the board need to take a long hard look at what they want in a manager to drive this club to long-term success and bring the right in and appointed come 1st June 2022 Again all of this is on the basis of not faffing around looking for someone else if it can't be done this weekend. I wouldn't even be opposed to Allardyce and Edin Terzic as Assistant with the view Edin takes over permanently in 2022...takes the pressure of Edin and he gets familiarity to the club rather than being thrown in the deep end At this stage I would be more than happy with Allardyce being offered the job. It might be seen as a step backwards by some but he has a lot of experience and would be more likely to keep us in the league than some of the other potential candidates.

pompeyeagle

Relocated to Shropshire 25 Jun 21 10.12am

Originally posted by Mojo87

Agreed on some of the responses towards Allardyce.

It's by far not ideal but we need a manager appointed ASAP!

Again all of this is on the basis of not faffing around looking for someone else if it can't be done this weekend.

At this stage I would be more than happy with Allardyce being offered the job. It might be seen as a step backwards by some but he has a lot of experience and would be more likely to keep us in the league than some of the other potential candidates.

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