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Quote Stirlingsays at 14 Mar 2015 6.26pm
Quote legaleagle at 14 Mar 2015 5.11pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 14 Mar 2015 1.41pm
Quote imbored at 14 Mar 2015 11.19am
How are we to describe those professionally offended by Russell Brand's silliness? That got even more front pages than this. Granted he doesn't bring as much money in, but if we only judge our morality by that, it's a sorry state.
The BBC ditching its biggest money maker is stupidity that only the left could undertake....Morality my foot, this is the real world. Like I say the foolish need to be stopped from providing fuel to the ending of the license fee. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Mar 2015 1.47pm)
Edited by legaleagle (14 Mar 2015 9.12pm)
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Quote imbored at 14 Mar 2015 6.50pm
I think it's more political than that from both sides, the beeb and the rest of the press. Do we not recall how people worked themselves into a frenzy over Russell Brand making an ill advised phone call? Is that worse than putting someone in hospital? No-one seemed to mind people being offended back then. The bloke lost his job. Edited by imbored (14 Mar 2015 6.53pm) Yup, you're right. Personally I regarded the genuine apologies given by Brand and Ross perfectly adequate and they should have been accepted by the Beeb. It's the usual overly hysterical reaction by all the press trying to sell copy in their particular media. I'm not too fond of the hang em and flog em brigade who in reality are bringing out their swords because they never particularly liked the victims in the first place.
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Quote legaleagle at 14 Mar 2015 9.07pm
Employee of the month award for the person who can have the most tantrums and punch the most fellow employees in the face for no good reason,eh? Edited by legaleagle (14 Mar 2015 9.12pm)
'I don't know what effect these men will have upon the enemy, but, by God, they frighten me.' Legal, this was a private argument within a team.....In the army I can tell you that rough and tumble happens all the bloody time.
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Indeed.I had a case about deaths of squaddies resulting from bullying and the ensuing cover up allegations. My uncle got sent off to the "forgotten" theatre of war in Burma because he punched an NCO in the face and knocked him out after the NCO had aimed a gratuitous anti-semitic insult at him on parade.Now that was a justified instance of punching someone in the face in the workplace! Could hardly have had a court martial because of the embarrassment when that was one of the things we were meant to be fighting against,so they shipped him off to the worst place possible a long way away to cover it up. But,we're getting way off topic.I think its not appropriate for people within a workplace team to punch a colleague in the face for no decent reason and that if they do,the employer should treat it very seriously,particularly if the employee is already on a "final warning" generally,regardless of whether its in a "normal" place of work or involving a TV celebrity.It may be we differ. Edited by legaleagle (15 Mar 2015 12.28am)
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Quote Stirlingsays at 14 Mar 2015 6.26pm
Quote Ian J at 14 Mar 2015 6.23pm
Quote legaleagle at 14 Mar 2015 5.11pm
Heaven forbid the day when employers sack someone (regardless of their value to a company) for punching another employee in the face for no good reason.These lefties really haven't got a clue But surely he had good reason as he was hungry and there was no hot dindins waiting for him. Isn't that a good enough excuse to physically assault a colleague? Yes.....This country is full of bleeding wimps. They're only bleeding because Jeremy Clarkson keeps punching them.
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Perhaps the BBC should consider making Clarkson go on an anger management course as a bit of a face saving exercise
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Quote Ian J at 15 Mar 2015 7.35am
Perhaps the BBC should consider making Clarkson go on an anger management course as a bit of a face saving exercise
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Quote legaleagle at 15 Mar 2015 12.09am
Indeed.I had a case about deaths of squaddies resulting from bullying and the ensuing cover up allegations. My uncle got sent off to the "forgotten" theatre of war in Burma because he punched an NCO in the face and knocked him out after the NCO had aimed a gratuitous anti-semitic insult at him on parade.Now that was a justified instance of punching someone in the face in the workplace! Could hardly have had a court martial because of the embarrassment when that was one of the things we were meant to be fighting against,so they shipped him off to the worst place possible a long way away to cover it up. But,we're getting way off topic.I think its not appropriate for people within a workplace team to punch a colleague in the face for no decent reason and that if they do,the employer should treat it very seriously,particularly if the employee is already on a "final warning" generally,regardless of whether its in a "normal" place of work or involving a TV celebrity.It may be we differ. Edited by legaleagle (15 Mar 2015 12.28am)
I just see the wider picture here...And that's it's being made into too big a deal.....Well, like 'bored' said....Maybe none of us are getting the real motivations here and maybe Clarkson's had enough. If it ends badly I see fuel being given to the 'anti BBC' commentators and that element of the Tory party that views the license fee as a tool for lefty social engineering. I want to protect the BBC and I also think the Top Gear audience deserve a celebratory conclusion to what the show has become rather than this negative mess. Like I said, there should be a private agreement on a 'changing of the guard' in one or two years time.....That way things can be properly and nicely concluded on what has been a great success......With no pissed off viewers. I hope sensible heads prevail. Or someone should punch them in the mouth. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Mar 2015 8.42am)
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The"wider" picture you paint is just people manipulating the situation for agendas,as you say,whether because of politics or money.Whereas,for me, it should just be treated the same as any other workplace,not differently because he's a celebrity.So for me the "wider" picture is that if he's treated differently because of who he is, it just sends a bad signal out that punching people in the workplace for no good reason can be an acceptable form of behaviour.Just like if the manager in the ordinary workplace could get away with it,but the ordinary worker would be sacked. Edited by legaleagle (15 Mar 2015 11.49am)
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Quote legaleagle at 15 Mar 2015 11.47am
The"wider" picture you paint is just people manipulating the situation for agendas,as you say,whether because of politics or money.Whereas,for me, it should just be treated the same as any other workplace,not differently because he's a celebrity.So for me the "wider" picture is that if he's treated differently because of who he is, it just sends a bad signal out that punching people in the workplace for no good reason can be an acceptable form of behaviour.Just like if the manager in the ordinary workplace could get away with it,but the ordinary worker would be sacked. Edited by legaleagle (15 Mar 2015 11.49am)
All the rules get applied the same to everyone.....Like feck they do. I'm not one who believes celebrities have to be standard carriers for society. This should blow over and the BBC should arrange for a sensible transition for the show that pleases its fans.
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1. Assault is assualt in the workplace or anywhere else.
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Quote legaleagle at 15 Mar 2015 11.47am
The"wider" picture you paint is just people manipulating the situation for agendas,as you say,whether because of politics or money.Whereas,for me, it should just be treated the same as any other workplace,not differently because he's a celebrity.So for me the "wider" picture is that if he's treated differently because of who he is, it just sends a bad signal out that punching people in the workplace for no good reason can be an acceptable form of behaviour.Just like if the manager in the ordinary workplace could get away with it,but the ordinary worker would be sacked. Edited by legaleagle (15 Mar 2015 11.49am)
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