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 NickinOX  Sailing country. 06 Oct 16 4.00pm |
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Originally posted by Rubin
I'd suggest that his vote is from, amongst others, people sick of the 'establishment', of which Hillary Clinton is the embodiment of. People around the world are also getting increasingly disenfranchised with the attempt at centralising power through trade deals and economic zones, and Trump is a vote against that. I'd also say that a lot of people who are linked to and support the 'establishment', will have their careers in the firing line if he gets elected, and I think this is a big reason why he has got so little support from the 'mainstream' media. An example of those already effected, are those who make a living from the promotion money typically spent by the presidential candidates, as Trump has spent very little. Trump appeals for many of the same reasons Bernie Sanders did: he is not a political insider. He is also telling people they have been screwed by the system, and many feel they have. Both are popular for similar reasons, although their solutions are hugely different. As for him not spending money and the lack of support from the mainstream media, I don't buy that. The Super Pacs are where the big bucks are, and they have spent a fortune on both candidates. As he lurches from crisis to crisis, much of that money has started to go to local electoral races.
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| nairb75 Baltimore 06 Oct 16 4.03pm |
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Originally posted by Rubin
I'd suggest that his vote is from, amongst others, people sick of the 'establishment', of which is the embodiment of. People around the world are also getting increasingly disenfranchised with the attempt at centralising power through trade deals and economic zones, and Trump is a vote against that. I'd also say that a lot of people who are linked to and support the 'establishment', will have their careers in the firing line if he gets elected, and I think this is a big reason why he has got so little support from the 'mainstream' media. An example of those already effected, are those who make a living from the promotion money typically spent by the presidential candidates, as Trump has spent very little. disagree there - the media will have a mountain of things to cover if trump wins. absolutely no issue finding content to cover any minute of the day. he'll be tweeting out how merkel is a fut ugly pig every 10 minutes, or whatever. media should be promoting him if it's all about their self interest.
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| Ray in Houston Houston 06 Oct 16 4.25pm |
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Originally posted by nairb75
disagree there - the media will have a mountain of things to cover if trump wins. absolutely no issue finding content to cover any minute of the day. he'll be tweeting out how merkel is a fut ugly pig every 10 minutes, or whatever. media should be promoting him if it's all about their self interest.
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jamiemartin721  Reading 06 Oct 16 4.57pm |
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Originally posted by NickinOX
Trump appeals for many of the same reasons Bernie Sanders did: he is not a political insider. He is also telling people they have been screwed by the system, and many feel they have. Both are popular for similar reasons, although their solutions are hugely different. As for him not spending money and the lack of support from the mainstream media, I don't buy that. The Super Pacs are where the big bucks are, and they have spent a fortune on both candidates. As he lurches from crisis to crisis, much of that money has started to go to local electoral races. Although Saunders is kind of an insider whilst being an outsider, having forged a remarkable career in US politics, given his leanings and the way that actual left wing politics is regarded, he's always been on the fringe of the democrats - Its hard not to respect someone who has managed that. Where as Trump is effectively successful on the basis of coming from wealth and privillage.
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| blackpalacefan 07 Oct 16 4.44pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Although Saunders is kind of an insider whilst being an outsider, having forged a remarkable career in US politics, given his leanings and the way that actual left wing politics is regarded, he's always been on the fringe of the democrats - Its hard not to respect someone who has managed that. Where as Trump is effectively successful on the basis of coming from wealth and privillage. I agree. Sanders is believable and appeared to have a history of genuinely wanting to progress society rather than feather his own nest. The party was heavily for Hillary though so he always had his work cut out. To me, it's looking very much like Trump is on a downward spiral, but should Hillary win, it's still business as usual and politicians not really representing the people in any meaningful way, so I don't see the current disconnect going anyway. Trump winning, and his disgusting and bullyish behaviour being given a mark of approval would be much worse of course, both dangerous and disappointing.
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| .TUX. 08 Oct 16 8.44am |
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Can she buck the trend? As Bloomberg notes, the performance of the S&P 500 between July 31 and Oct. 31 "has a curious way of predicting the winner of the presidential election." Here it is: "Should the S&P 500 record a positive return from July 31 to Oct. 31, it signals the re-election of the party in power, while a decline suggests replacement. The S&P ended September slightly below its July close, so the election results are at the mercy of the market's October performance." The pattern's held accurate over 80% of the time since 1944. It's only given false signals on two elections – 1968 and 1980. October has a pretty bad history.
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| Hoof Hearted 08 Oct 16 9.23am | |
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Donald is quick to hit back at Hilary following the New York Times releasing the embarrassing comments he made in 2005.....
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Attachment: Kermit8  Hevon 08 Oct 16 3.17pm |
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De Niro is a fan:
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| blackpalacefan 08 Oct 16 3.34pm |
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Focus groups decided he should go for the sex pest demographic.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 08 Oct 16 7.29pm |
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Latest... Trump said "you can do anything" to women "when you're a star" and "grab them by the pussy". Nice.
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| .TUX. 08 Oct 16 7.54pm |
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Given a choice, i'd choose Trump over Killary all day long. I know which i'd choose.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 08 Oct 16 8.02pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
Given a choice, i'd choose Trump over Killary all day long. I know which i'd choose.
Think he may have shot his load so to speak with that revelation.Not sure how any decent Republicans will be able to vote for someone now who bragged about sexual violence toward women. A lot of abstentions or spoilt ballot papers and no shows from what was supposed to be his own side, i reckon. Each one of those is now an indirect vote for Hilary. Blimey. A lady PM at the same time as a lady President and we have Merkel too. It's pc gawn maaad. Edited by Kermit8 (08 Oct 2016 8.04pm)
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