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serial thriller Flag The Promised Land 30 Apr 20 5.22pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Watching the news at lunchtime it seemed that the BBC were wetting themselves with the prospect that the Government were going to miss their testing targets giving them the opportunity to put the boot in once more

What do you expect? Journalists will always look to criticise. As politicians, you have to try and give them as little to criticise as possible, and this government is failing spectacularly on that front.

In recent years, the Tories have got used to making promises with absolutely no interest in whether or not they're feasible. That's one thing if it's putting a number on a bus. But when it's protecting the lives of doctors and nurses fighting a pandemic, it's a little more serious.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 30 Apr 20 5.41pm

Originally posted by cryrst

When did they say they would have 100k tests.
It was a goal, an aspiration. They got close but not good enough for some, besides what is the point. Half these people who test positive will still go shopping or for their daily exercise. Our liberty bull crap. Distance has proved to be the only way to break the chain.

They’re testing key workers. Most of whom will be off work but do t know if they have it so don’t know what to do.

 


COYP

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 30 Apr 20 5.48pm

This isn’t the virus thread.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 30 Apr 20 6.19pm

Originally posted by serial thriller

What do you expect? Journalists will always look to criticise. As politicians, you have to try and give them as little to criticise as possible, and this government is failing spectacularly on that front.

In recent years, the Tories have got used to making promises with absolutely no interest in whether or not they're feasible. That's one thing if it's putting a number on a bus. But when it's protecting the lives of doctors and nurses fighting a pandemic, it's a little more serious.

So labours plans were feasible then if that's a word I can cherry pick. Do you honestly think if labour were in power now we would be in a better place. State workers yes. Private companies I dont think tbh.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 30 Apr 20 6.46pm

Originally posted by serial thriller

What do you expect? Journalists will always look to criticise. As politicians, you have to try and give them as little to criticise as possible, and this government is failing spectacularly on that front.

In recent years, the Tories have got used to making promises with absolutely no interest in whether or not they're feasible. That's one thing if it's putting a number on a bus. But when it's protecting the lives of doctors and nurses fighting a pandemic, it's a little more serious.

As usual, you manage to spout pure twaddle born from your own personal bitterness.

The government have done what they said they would do and we are past the peak.
We are the most densely populated country in Europe thanks to Tony Blair and yet our death rate is comparable to Europe allowing for inconsistency in gathering data.

As usual, the radical Left manage to make themselves look like complete tits.

 

Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 30 Apr 20 6.47pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

As usual, you manage to spout pure twaddle born from your own personal bitterness.

The government have done what they said they would do and we are past the peak.
We are the most densely populated country in Europe thanks to Tony Blair and yet our death rate is comparable to Europe allowing for inconsistency in gathering data.

As usual, the radical Left manage to make themselves look like complete tits.


Absolutely spot on

 


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silvertop Flag Portishead 30 Apr 20 8.53pm

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle


Absolutely spot on

I was just having a little chuckle at hrolfs standard foaming rant when stone me the very next post concurs completely

 

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 30 Apr 20 9.24pm

There are so many ribald anagrams that seem possible from Sir Keir Starmer. Arse and rim are certainly there.

 


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serial thriller Flag The Promised Land 30 Apr 20 10.37pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

As usual, you manage to spout pure twaddle born from your own personal bitterness.

The government have done what they said they would do and we are past the peak.
We are the most densely populated country in Europe thanks to Tony Blair and yet our death rate is comparable to Europe allowing for inconsistency in gathering data.

As usual, the radical Left manage to make themselves look like complete tits.

Something we can all see is a lie if we bother to Google. But hey, I know facts are unfashionable on here nowadays, particularly the ones that dare criticise the world's oldest party of dirty money, big business and the rich.

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 30 Apr 20 11.06pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

We are the most densely populated country in Europe thanks to Tony Blair and yet our death rate is comparable to Europe allowing for inconsistency in gathering data.

As a matter of interest from where do you get that impression about death rates?

And also from where did you buy your human geography books?

 

Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 30 Apr 20 11.16pm

Originally posted by serial thriller

Something we can all see is a lie if we bother to Google. But hey, I know facts are unfashionable on here nowadays, particularly the ones that dare criticise the world's oldest party of dirty money, big business and the rich.

Semantics. The UK is Europe most densely populated country with exceptions of places like Vatican City or Monaco.

It used to be Holland however due to our huge levels of immigration it’s now us.

 


"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 30 Apr 20 11.19pm

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Semantics. The UK is Europe most densely populated country with exceptions of places like Vatican City or Monaco.

It used to be Holland however due to our huge levels of immigration it’s now us.

is this why I keep bumping into people?

 

Mapletree Flag Croydon 30 Apr 20 11.23pm

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Semantics. The UK is Europe most densely populated country with exceptions of places like Vatican City or Monaco.

It used to be Holland however due to our huge levels of immigration it’s now us.

I would check again if I were you.

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 01 May 20 8.07am

Population density by country is rather misleading as you could have a highly dense city with lots of rural land around it Paris / France for example.

I'm not sure how you would do it but it is clear that the London and the SE is highly populated and has the highest death rate. Rather than countries I guess you would need to compare urban areas in Europe with like for like population rates.

Some of the most densest populations are islands or tiny places like Vatican City they have the advantage of being able to control who comes and in out more easily. My neighbour live on the Isle of Man (not at the moment) they have very strict lockdown procedures for any incoming travellers.

From Wikipedia

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Edited by Badger11 (01 May 2020 8.08am)

 


One more point

silvertop Flag Portishead 01 May 20 7.56pm

Built up density is the key. Spain and Netherlands are way ahead of us.

I would truly like to see a graph showing an increase in density during the Blair years, I really would. This graph would, of course, have to demonstrate a corresponding fall after brown lost power and a further fall since the Tories had complete control.

It would also need to demonstrate us having a relatively low density index for the "glorious" Thatcher years.

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 01 May 20 8.10pm

Originally posted by silvertop

Built up density is the key. Spain and Netherlands are way ahead of us.

I would truly like to see a graph showing an increase in density during the Blair years, I really would. This graph would, of course, have to demonstrate a corresponding fall after brown lost power and a further fall since the Tories had complete control.

It would also need to demonstrate us having a relatively low density index for the "glorious" Thatcher years.

What fall would happen after blair got dumped?Kristallnicht happened a few years ago. Are you on about a physical fall in population or a fall in immigration. Either way it wouldn't suit your lefty view so what is the point? Do you think it didnt increase under blair?

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 02 May 20 1.32am

Originally posted by cryrst

What fall would happen after blair got dumped?Kristallnicht happened a few years ago. Are you on about a physical fall in population or a fall in immigration. Either way it wouldn't suit your lefty view so what is the point? Do you think it didnt increase under blair?

What is ‘?Kristallnicht’

acht

Also didn’t realise that all our immigrants were Jewish.

That aside - it’s a fair point re. Immigration levels. I’d agree they must have gone up after Blair came in, but thosee levels have surely been sustained or even exceeded in the years since under the blue bloods

Someone treat me to a rarity and post some untainted / non-subjectively selected objective thought supported by, y’know, some contextually relevant and balanced facts

 


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silvertop Flag Portishead 02 May 20 9.50am

Originally posted by cryrst

What fall would happen after blair got dumped?Kristallnicht happened a few years ago. Are you on about a physical fall in population or a fall in immigration. Either way it wouldn't suit your lefty view so what is the point? Do you think it didnt increase under blair?

I'm not lefty. I'm just left of you.

I was reacting to a post by hrolf who alluded to Blair being a cause of the high death rate in this country by policies that caused densening in the population

It may have happened. However if you want to use this as a stick to bash labour then you must also show a fall in density under the Tories who have been in power for quite a while otherwise the criticism doesn't stand up.

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 02 May 20 10.30am

According to migration watch 3 million people were added to the population under Blair. A million brits did leave though. So net 2 million. Quite a lot.

 

silvertop Flag Portishead 02 May 20 8.49pm

Originally posted by cryrst

According to migration watch 3 million people were added to the population under Blair. A million brits did leave though. So net 2 million. Quite a lot.

And since Blair?

 

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