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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 07 Dec 20 4.29pm
Originally posted by DanH Ah yes. Anti-racism now worse than actual racism. Forgot about that. Your point being? This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 07 Dec 20 4.29pm

Originally posted by DanH

Ah yes. Anti-racism now worse than actual racism. Forgot about that.

Your point being?

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

Stirlingsays 07 Dec 20 4.30pm
Originally posted by DanH Ah yes. Anti-racism now worse than actual racism. Forgot about that. You regularly waffle about racism yet you are fine with racism you agree with. Still playing your racist Stormzy records? 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

07 Dec 20 4.30pm

Originally posted by DanH

Ah yes. Anti-racism now worse than actual racism. Forgot about that.

You regularly waffle about racism yet you are fine with racism you agree with.

Still playing your racist Stormzy records?

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Spiderman Horsham 07 Dec 20 4.36pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Suely this will have had an effect when everybody starts taking a knee at work. Or in their living room on an hourly basis. Then the message will be regularly reinforced. At Dan’s company they probably do, in particularly as they are interviewing job applicants

Spiderman

Horsham 07 Dec 20 4.36pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Suely this will have had an effect when everybody starts taking a knee at work. Or in their living room on an hourly basis. Then the message will be regularly reinforced.

At Dan’s company they probably do, in particularly as they are interviewing job applicants

Rudi Hedman Caterham 07 Dec 20 4.38pm
Originally posted by Spiderman At Dan’s company they probably do, in particularly as they are interviewing job applicants Probably further than just being down there. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 07 Dec 20 4.38pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

At Dan’s company they probably do, in particularly as they are interviewing job applicants

Probably further than just being down there.

COYP

Spiderman Horsham 07 Dec 20 4.39pm
Originally posted by DanH Ah yes. Anti-racism now worse than actual racism. Forgot about that. So are you saying it is ok to abuse and threaten people because they do not agree with taking the knee or BLM but a racist threatening someone is not ok? In my book that is as bad as each other, but not in your little utopia

Spiderman

Horsham 07 Dec 20 4.39pm

Originally posted by DanH

Ah yes. Anti-racism now worse than actual racism. Forgot about that.

So are you saying it is ok to abuse and threaten people because they do not agree with taking the knee or BLM but a racist threatening someone is not ok?
In my book that is as bad as each other, but not in your little utopia

Teddy Eagle 07 Dec 20 4.39pm
Originally posted by Spiderman At Dan’s company they probably do, in particularly as they are interviewing job applicants Or is that kneeling before the God of Mammon?

Teddy Eagle

07 Dec 20 4.39pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

At Dan’s company they probably do, in particularly as they are interviewing job applicants

Or is that kneeling before the God of Mammon?

DanH SW2 07 Dec 20 4.45pm
Originally posted by Spiderman So are you saying it is ok to abuse and threaten people because they do not agree with taking the knee or BLM but a racist threatening someone is not ok? In my book that is as bad as each other, but not in your little utopia Eh? Where have I done or said that? No it’s not OK to threaten people but it is OK to call out racists being racist.

DanH

SW2 07 Dec 20 4.45pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Eh? Where have I done or said that? No it’s not OK to threaten people but it is OK to call out racists being racist.

Stirlingsays 07 Dec 20 4.46pm
Originally posted by Spiderman At Dan’s company they probably do, in particularly as they are interviewing job applicants Ensuring a racial mix that he agrees with has nothing to do with racism of course (not sure you'd agree with that if you were the person affected). But it's not racism when they do it......But hey...boo at some kneeling millionaires and there is hell to pay. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Dec 2020 4.47pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

07 Dec 20 4.46pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

At Dan’s company they probably do, in particularly as they are interviewing job applicants

Ensuring a racial mix that he agrees with has nothing to do with racism of course (not sure you'd agree with that if you were the person affected).

But it's not racism when they do it......But hey...boo at some kneeling millionaires and there is hell to pay.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Dec 2020 4.47pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Teddy Eagle 07 Dec 20 4.48pm
Originally posted by DanH Eh? Where have I done or said that? No it’s not OK to threaten people but it is OK to call out racists being racist. Sounds a bit McCarthy-like (Joseph not Paddy).

Teddy Eagle

07 Dec 20 4.48pm

Originally posted by DanH

Eh? Where have I done or said that? No it’s not OK to threaten people but it is OK to call out racists being racist.

Sounds a bit McCarthy-like (Joseph not Paddy).

eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 07 Dec 20 5.06pm
Originally posted by DanH Eh? Where have I done or said that? No it’s not OK to threaten people but it is OK to call out racists being racist. What proof, legally, do YOU have of calling out someone as a racist? This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 07 Dec 20 5.06pm

Originally posted by DanH

Eh? Where have I done or said that? No it’s not OK to threaten people but it is OK to call out racists being racist.

What proof, legally, do YOU have of calling out someone as a racist?

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

Plumpton eagle East Sussex 07 Dec 20 5.20pm
Wow, what a depressing read this thread has become. Good old Milwall, whites are now the threatened minority, let's boo an anti racist gesture or if that makes it too obvious that we are racists, let's just do a slow handclap! This is 2020 isn't it or have we slipped back to the 1970's? There is an Edmund Burke quote that goes along the lines of "All it takes for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing". The knee taking may have gone on too long but is still a powerful gesture. Premier league games are shown all around the world and hopefully this gesture and it's anti racist message gets noticed. How would those against feel if the poppy seller was to be booed outside the ground? If you don't agree with poppies then you just don't buy or wear one. If I get a ticket for a home game, then I intend to applaud the taking of a knee. I suggest that those that are not comfortable with/against it just stay silent. It will be assumed (possibly wrongly) that those that boo are racist.

Plumpton eagle

East Sussex 07 Dec 20 5.20pm

There is an Edmund Burke quote that goes along the lines of "All it takes for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing". The knee taking may have gone on too long but is still a powerful gesture. Premier league games are shown all around the world and hopefully this gesture and it's anti racist message gets noticed.

How would those against feel if the poppy seller was to be booed outside the ground? If you don't agree with poppies then you just don't buy or wear one.

If I get a ticket for a home game, then I intend to applaud the taking of a knee. I suggest that those that are not comfortable with/against it just stay silent. It will be assumed (possibly wrongly) that those that boo are racist.

DanH SW2 07 Dec 20 5.27pm
Originally posted by Plumpton eagle Wow, what a depressing read this thread has become. Good old Milwall, whites are now the threatened minority, let's boo an anti racist gesture or if that makes it too obvious that we are racists, let's just do a slow handclap! This is 2020 isn't it or have we slipped back to the 1970's? There is an Edmund Burke quote that goes along the lines of "All it takes for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing". The knee taking may have gone on too long but is still a powerful gesture. Premier league games are shown all around the world and hopefully this gesture and it's anti racist message gets noticed. How would those against feel if the poppy seller was to be booed outside the ground? If you don't agree with poppies then you just don't buy or wear one. If I get a ticket for a home game, then I intend to applaud the taking of a knee. I suggest that those that are not comfortable with/against it just stay silent. It will be assumed (possibly wrongly) that those that boo are racist. This board is populated by people from that era that are angry that the world has moved on.

DanH

SW2 07 Dec 20 5.27pm

Originally posted by Plumpton eagle

Wow, what a depressing read this thread has become. Good old Milwall, whites are now the threatened minority, let's boo an anti racist gesture or if that makes it too obvious that we are racists, let's just do a slow handclap! This is 2020 isn't it or have we slipped back to the 1970's?

There is an Edmund Burke quote that goes along the lines of "All it takes for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing". The knee taking may have gone on too long but is still a powerful gesture. Premier league games are shown all around the world and hopefully this gesture and it's anti racist message gets noticed.

How would those against feel if the poppy seller was to be booed outside the ground? If you don't agree with poppies then you just don't buy or wear one.

This board is populated by people from that era that are angry that the world has moved on.

Teddy Eagle 07 Dec 20 5.32pm
Originally posted by DanH This board is populated by people from that era that are angry that the world has moved on. And everyone is so much happier. Result.

Teddy Eagle

07 Dec 20 5.32pm

Originally posted by DanH

This board is populated by people from that era that are angry that the world has moved on.

And everyone is so much happier. Result.

Stirlingsays 07 Dec 20 5.34pm
You have to laugh every time some 'progressive' cries about how others don't see the world through their lens. Zealots to their secular version of Christianity.....looking for witches at every turn. Self righteous narcissists.....half of them with daddy issues. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

07 Dec 20 5.34pm

You have to laugh every time some 'progressive' cries about how others don't see the world through their lens.

Zealots to their secular version of Christianity.....looking for witches at every turn.

Self righteous narcissists.....half of them with daddy issues.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 07 Dec 20 5.35pm
Originally posted by Plumpton eagle Wow, what a depressing read this thread has become. Good old Milwall, whites are now the threatened minority, let's boo an anti racist gesture or if that makes it too obvious that we are racists, let's just do a slow handclap! This is 2020 isn't it or have we slipped back to the 1970's? There is an Edmund Burke quote that goes along the lines of "All it takes for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing". The knee taking may have gone on too long but is still a powerful gesture. Premier league games are shown all around the world and hopefully this gesture and it's anti racist message gets noticed. How would those against feel if the poppy seller was to be booed outside the ground? If you don't agree with poppies then you just don't buy or wear one. If I get a ticket for a home game, then I intend to applaud the taking of a knee. I suggest that those that are not comfortable with/against it just stay silent. It will be assumed (possibly wrongly) that those that boo are racist. WOW, Your use of Poppy Sellers is close to my heart. I have & will continue to sell them, BUT, did you know that year on year, increasing numbers of sellers are abused, physically attacked, even arrested, all because it 'offends' some migrant, who we, the British, welcomed to our shores. Think about that when you applaud over paid nancyboy footballers. Jeez. This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 07 Dec 20 5.35pm

Originally posted by Plumpton eagle

How would those against feel if the poppy seller was to be booed outside the ground? If you don't agree with poppies then you just don't buy or wear one.

WOW,

Your use of Poppy Sellers is close to my heart. I have & will continue to sell them, BUT, did you know that year on year, increasing numbers of sellers are abused, physically attacked, even arrested, all because it 'offends' some migrant, who we, the British, welcomed to our shores.

Think about that when you applaud over paid nancyboy footballers. Jeez.

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

Rudi Hedman Caterham 07 Dec 20 5.39pm
The bbs the polar opposite. Film about black millwall fans. [Link] COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 07 Dec 20 5.39pm

The bbs the polar opposite.

Film about black millwall fans.

[Link]

COYP

serial thriller The Promised Land 07 Dec 20 5.42pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 WOW, Your use of Poppy Sellers is close to my heart. I have & will continue to sell them, BUT, did you know that year on year, increasing numbers of sellers are abused, physically attacked, even arrested, all because it 'offends' some migrant, who we, the British, welcomed to our shores. Think about that when you applaud over paid nancyboy footballers. Jeez. I personally don't wear a poppy, but have no issue with those who do and respect the opinion of those who see it as an important political message. Why do you treat taking a knee in a different way? It has nothing to do with Marxism or vuolence. It's the players deciding that for 5 seconds they want to remind people of an issue. Why feel the need to potentially insult wilf, kouyate etc by booing? If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

serial thriller

The Promised Land 07 Dec 20 5.42pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

WOW,

Think about that when you applaud over paid nancyboy footballers. Jeez.

I personally don't wear a poppy, but have no issue with those who do and respect the opinion of those who see it as an important political message.

Why do you treat taking a knee in a different way? It has nothing to do with Marxism or vuolence. It's the players deciding that for 5 seconds they want to remind people of an issue. Why feel the need to potentially insult wilf, kouyate etc by booing?

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

Stirlingsays 07 Dec 20 5.45pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 WOW, Your use of Poppy Sellers is close to my heart. I have & will continue to sell them, BUT, did you know that year on year, increasing numbers of sellers are abused, physically attacked, even arrested, all because it 'offends' some migrant, who we, the British, welcomed to our shores. Think about that when you applaud over paid nancyboy footballers. Jeez. Yep, it isn't the same. Poppy sellers aren't doing gestures in front of captive audiences. You the customers go up to the seller and purchase....You aren't then forced to watch the poppy seller carry out some gesture inspired over the politics from the death of an American. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Dec 2020 5.46pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

07 Dec 20 5.45pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

WOW,

Think about that when you applaud over paid nancyboy footballers. Jeez.

Yep, it isn't the same.

Poppy sellers aren't doing gestures in front of captive audiences.

You the customers go up to the seller and purchase....You aren't then forced to watch the poppy seller carry out some gesture inspired over the politics from the death of an American.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Dec 2020 5.46pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

DanH SW2 07 Dec 20 5.53pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Yep, it isn't the same. Poppy sellers aren't doing gestures in front of captive audiences. You the customers go up to the seller and purchase....You aren't then forced to watch the poppy seller carry out some gesture inspired over the politics from the death of an American. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Dec 2020 5.46pm) What about this? Attachment: poppy-costume-at-tranmere.jpg (36.23Kb)

DanH

SW2 07 Dec 20 5.53pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yep, it isn't the same.

Poppy sellers aren't doing gestures in front of captive audiences.

You the customers go up to the seller and purchase....You aren't then forced to watch the poppy seller carry out some gesture inspired over the politics from the death of an American.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Dec 2020 5.46pm)

What about this?

Attachment: poppy-costume-at-tranmere.jpg (36.23Kb)

Teddy Eagle 07 Dec 20 5.57pm
Originally posted by DanH What about this? And did everyone involved in the match do this before every game?

Teddy Eagle

07 Dec 20 5.57pm

Originally posted by DanH

What about this?

And did everyone involved in the match do this before every game?

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