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cryrst Flag The garden of England 02 May 20 4.41pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Do you seriously think that another trader who saw the same opportunity would have spurned it?

Sorry but I don't. What Soros did was give us a huge kick up the rear end.

What if it was banks?

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 02 May 20 4.46pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

I’m not sure moral and Soros should be used in the same sentence. I suspect you are right that Banks is not nice but I have never met him so I will reserve judgement. I also suspect that Soros is not a pleasant person but again I have never met him so must reserve judgement.

When he sold us short there was no morality involved. That is true of almost all of those who operate in that world. It's dog eat dog. The failure was the lack of controls in the system to prevent it happening. So do you blame Soros or those who failed to anticipate it happening?

As I said he appears to have undergone an epiphany and has become a person with a really high moral character. Just look at the things he has done in his country of birth to try to improve the lot of the common man there. The fact that Viktor Orban has turned on him the way he has speaks volumes to me. Orban is truly a despicable politician and anyone who gets under his skin must be doing something right.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 02 May 20 4.51pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

When he sold us short there was no morality involved. That is true of almost all of those who operate in that world. It's dog eat dog. The failure was the lack of controls in the system to prevent it happening. So do you blame Soros or those who failed to anticipate it happening?

As I said he appears to have undergone an epiphany and has become a person with a really high moral character. Just look at the things he has done in his country of birth to try to improve the lot of the common man there. The fact that Viktor Orban has turned on him the way he has speaks volumes to me. Orban is truly a despicable politician and anyone who gets under his skin must be doing something right.

Of course hes turned into a philanthropist. He took everyone's money so he can. TR has changed but you cant bring yourself to see that. Goose and gander.

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 02 May 20 4.54pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

When he sold us short there was no morality involved. That is true of almost all of those who operate in that world. It's dog eat dog. The failure was the lack of controls in the system to prevent it happening. So do you blame Soros or those who failed to anticipate it happening?

As I said he appears to have undergone an epiphany and has become a person with a really high moral character. Just look at the things he has done in his country of birth to try to improve the lot of the common man there. The fact that Viktor Orban has turned on him the way he has speaks volumes to me. Orban is truly a despicable politician and anyone who gets under his skin must be doing something right.

Honest wissie your picking statements like a kid in a sweet shop. Dog eat dog,no controls to prevent it etc etc. Remember these when a subject you dont agree with is discussed. I suppose the system allowed mass rape as well. Silly us for not reporting it... oh but we did.

 

Cpfc1861 Flag 02 May 20 5.03pm

The EU project is going to fail after this I believe think Italy Spain and even france are going to swing in the next election to anti EU parties. Italy quite rightly feel abandoned and I know a italian bird who is partial to english pork who reckons a lot of Italians see the germans taking italian patients as virtue signaling after f***ing their economy for so long but then again it depends who you ask.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 02 May 20 8.37pm

Originally posted by cryrst

What if it was banks?

Would banks be allowed to?

I thought they were regulated in such a way as to prohibit such speculation.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 02 May 20 8.41pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Of course hes turned into a philanthropist. He took everyone's money so he can. TR has changed but you cant bring yourself to see that. Goose and gander.

I see no change whatsoever in Yaxley-Lennon. He is still punching people and getting arrested as a consequence. I am not aware of him giving any money to the poor and needy or supporting the advance of democracy.

So what change do you see?

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 02 May 20 8.43pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Honest wissie your picking statements like a kid in a sweet shop. Dog eat dog,no controls to prevent it etc etc. Remember these when a subject you dont agree with is discussed. I suppose the system allowed mass rape as well. Silly us for not reporting it... oh but we did.

Then explain where the controls existed or why my statements are wrong.

Attacking the poster and not the argument rarely gets us anywhere does it?

 


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Cpfc1861 Flag 02 May 20 9.51pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I see no change whatsoever in Yaxley-Lennon. He is still punching people and getting arrested as a consequence. I am not aware of him giving any money to the poor and needy or supporting the advance of democracy.

So what change do you see?

TBF a lot of the people he has to punch are usually coming after him the guy has death threats sent to him and people at random come up and provoke him for his views. I found some of his views extreme at first but there is no doubt he has uncovered a lot of dirt in this country which would of carried on without him. He is far from perfect but that dont make him wrong about everything. More often not he is right but goes about the wrong way.

 

Mapletree Flag Croydon 02 May 20 11.08pm

Originally posted by Cpfc1861

TBF a lot of the people he has to punch are usually coming after him the guy has death threats sent to him and people at random come up and provoke him for his views. I found some of his views extreme at first but there is no doubt he has uncovered a lot of dirt in this country which would of carried on without him. He is far from perfect but that dont make him wrong about everything. More often not he is right but goes about the wrong way.

Oh boy. ‘He has to punch’.

Like the footage of where he ran after some bloke walking away from him and smacked him from behind?

 

Cpfc1861 Flag 02 May 20 11.59pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Oh boy. ‘He has to punch’.

Like the footage of where he ran after some bloke walking away from him and smacked him from behind?

not seen that one I've seen videos of him getting attacked in the street and fighting them off that's what I'm referring to.

 

Mapletree Flag Croydon 03 May 20 12.14am

Originally posted by Cpfc1861

not seen that one I've seen videos of him getting attacked in the street and fighting them off that's what I'm referring to.

Yes, he’s terribly unlucky it seems.

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 03 May 20 6.28am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I see no change whatsoever in Yaxley-Lennon. He is still punching people and getting arrested as a consequence. I am not aware of him giving any money to the poor and needy or supporting the advance of democracy.

So what change do you see?

Hes not the leader of the EDL. 'Giving money to the poor' oh I see so that Mark's how you have changed as a person. It's all about dosh then. I must remember that. I can make myself a better person in peoples eyes by giving money away. That's a bit like how socialism operates. Wait until soros runs out of money and shorts the next economy. Will he then be bad again?

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 03 May 20 7.08am

FFS this is the Brexit thread. The Tommy Robinson thread disappeared as promised because my request to stop insulting each other was ignored (as usual) so it disappeared as promised.

If this thread is used to insult each other or to continue discussing Tommy Robinson it will also disappear

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 03 May 20 8.35am

No insults I can see ME only using a hated figure in comparison to a loved figure who screwed millions of us. I will cease using him as an example but that is all it is.

 

silvertop Flag Portishead 03 May 20 9.08am

Moving back to the topic the virus is diverting huge resources away from those necessary to achieve an effective and mutually profitable transition both here and with our prospective trading partners. That was as I understood it one of the main aims of leaving.

With fewer resources achieving that by year end without making costly compromises and doing a bad job with huge lasting consequences may be less likely. Every rational bone in my body says that if more time is needed then more time should be agreed. It does not mean remain. It means doing a proper job.

Yet the government are saying no to any extension even if it were critically needed. And this site appears to support that view.

Is this border control trumping long term economic prosperity? Educate me please.

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 03 May 20 9.25am

Originally posted by silvertop

Moving back to the topic the virus is diverting huge resources away from those necessary to achieve an effective and mutually profitable transition both here and with our prospective trading partners. That was as I understood it one of the main aims of leaving.

With fewer resources achieving that by year end without making costly compromises and doing a bad job with huge lasting consequences may be less likely. Every rational bone in my body says that if more time is needed then more time should be agreed. It does not mean remain. It means doing a proper job.

Yet the government are saying no to any extension even if it were critically needed. And this site appears to support that view.

Is this border control trumping long term economic prosperity? Educate me please.

The EU has been playing the same game from day 1, which is delay. Mrs May wanted to negotiate the withdrawal agreement and the subsequent free trade deal together the EU insisted one must follow the other.

When we finally left Boris wanted to start talks immediately the EU insisted on a 3 month delay and then complained there wasn't enough time.

I have said all alone deals are only done when you hold a gun to the head of both parties. If a deal is close I agree it would be sensible to extend the deadline by a few months. However right now both parties are not even on the same page and the EU is still dragging their feet no doubt hoping the current crisis will frighten the government into making concessions.

So until we see real progress in the talks we should stick to the current deadline. The government has said we will walk away unless real progress is made by the summer and we will not wait for the year end deadline, I agree right now the EU is dragging their feet hoping something better will turn up. They need to understand we are serious about this so they need to get serious. I have a feeling that the political leaders of the EU especially southern Europe will realise that they need to to be more flexible their economies are in real trouble.

One final point I imagine that across the world countries are in economic trouble and will only be too happy to do trade deals with the UK hopefully the EU will realise that.

Edited by Badger11 (03 May 2020 9.31am)

 


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dannyboy1978 Flag 06 May 20 7.16am

Looks like we are at the front of the cue. Lol. What a dirty trick that was!

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 06 May 20 8.15am

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Looks like we are at the front of the cue. Lol. What a dirty trick that was!

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This rather goes to my point about the EU dragging their heels. I don't know if we will get a deal with the US or if it will be a good one but from the tone of this article it appears both sides are proactively putting in the effort something that was completely lacking from the EU.

Throughout the various EU negotiations the EU kept saying it was up to the UK to find solutions, a very passive response.

I am cautious as to the success of a deal with the US because quite often congress sticks it oar in and scuppers deals so it remains to be seen if we can agree a deal and then have congress accept it. However I am more optimistic about this then I am with the EU unless they pull their finger out and wake up to the new reality.

 


One more point

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 06 May 20 10.49am

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Looks like we are at the front of the cue. Lol. What a dirty trick that was!

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Here's a tip for the front of your cue! I suggest you chalk it down to experience.

 


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