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Spiderman Horsham 01 Jul 20 7.35am
Originally posted by steeleye20 So tell us B, how much more immigration this will mean? Why don’t you answer that

Spiderman

Horsham 01 Jul 20 7.35am

Originally posted by steeleye20

So tell us B, how much more immigration this will mean?

Why don’t you answer that

Spiderman Horsham 01 Jul 20 7.40am
Originally posted by cryrst It wont matter if there have something to give instead of taking forever. Unfortunately I do not have that much confidence in any points based system. IMO it will still allow businesses to import cheap labour rather than investing in training our own. It will still mean we require more houses being built on our countryside. Horsham District have identified 25 sites where they can build another 24000 houses over the next 10 years. No I am not a nimby, just hate seeing all the open spaces being concreted over, where ever it is Edited by Spiderman (01 Jul 2020 7.41am)

Spiderman

Horsham 01 Jul 20 7.40am

Originally posted by cryrst

It wont matter if there have something to give instead of taking forever.

Unfortunately I do not have that much confidence in any points based system. IMO it will still allow businesses to import cheap labour rather than investing in training our own. It will still mean we require more houses being built on our countryside.
Horsham District have identified 25 sites where they can build another 24000 houses over the next 10 years. No I am not a nimby, just hate seeing all the open spaces being concreted over, where ever it is

Edited by Spiderman (01 Jul 2020 7.41am)

Badger11 Beckenham 01 Jul 20 8.01am
Originally posted by Spiderman Why don’t you answer that I thought I just did. It will be up to the government of the day to decide as it should be. We are about to see a huge rise in unemployment in this country I think the priority should be to find work for people already here before we start to import labour from abroad. We will see how the new system works next year. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 01 Jul 20 8.01am

Originally posted by Spiderman

Why don’t you answer that

I thought I just did. It will be up to the government of the day to decide as it should be.

We are about to see a huge rise in unemployment in this country I think the priority should be to find work for people already here before we start to import labour from abroad. We will see how the new system works next year.

One more point

steeleye20 Croydon 01 Jul 20 9.05am
Really think the new labour leader Clem Johnson is right we should bin these old remain/leave arguments. They are hardly a priority now.

steeleye20

Croydon 01 Jul 20 9.05am

Really think the new labour leader Clem Johnson is right we should bin these old remain/leave arguments.

They are hardly a priority now.

Badger11 Beckenham 01 Jul 20 9.18am
Originally posted by steeleye20 Really think the new labour leader Clem Johnson is right we should bin these old remain/leave arguments. They are hardly a priority now. I prefer Sir Keir Thatcher myself. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 01 Jul 20 9.18am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Really think the new labour leader Clem Johnson is right we should bin these old remain/leave arguments.

They are hardly a priority now.

I prefer Sir Keir Thatcher myself.

One more point

Spiderman Horsham 01 Jul 20 10.58am
Originally posted by Badger11 I thought I just did. It will be up to the government of the day to decide as it should be. We are about to see a huge rise in unemployment in this country I think the priority should be to find work for people already here before we start to import labour from abroad. We will see how the new system works next year. Sorry it was aimed at Steeleye, apologises for the confusion

Spiderman

Horsham 01 Jul 20 10.58am

Originally posted by Badger11

I thought I just did. It will be up to the government of the day to decide as it should be.

Sorry it was aimed at Steeleye, apologises for the confusion

Spiderman Horsham 01 Jul 20 10.58am
Originally posted by Badger11 I prefer Sir Keir Thatcher myself. Maple incoming

Spiderman

Horsham 01 Jul 20 10.58am

Originally posted by Badger11

I prefer Sir Keir Thatcher myself.

Maple incoming

Matov 01 Jul 20 11.27am
Another step closer to the final break with the EU given that there is (supposedly) no going back now from the December 31st deadline for an agreement. Lets hope "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Matov

01 Jul 20 11.27am

Another step closer to the final break with the EU given that there is (supposedly) no going back now from the December 31st deadline for an agreement.

Lets hope

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Hrolf The Ganger 01 Jul 20 1.00pm
Originally posted by Badger11 The crucial thing is that the point system in Australia is designed for a country that is fussy about who it imports but needs skilled workers as it's population is relatively small. Britain is already overcrowded, has far too many scroungers and should only be importing skills that are absolutely necessary. No more 50 family members who come here, sign on and then moan about our empire days.

Hrolf The Ganger

01 Jul 20 1.00pm

Originally posted by Badger11

The crucial thing is that the point system in Australia is designed for a country that is fussy about who it imports but needs skilled workers as it's population is relatively small.
Britain is already overcrowded, has far too many scroungers and should only be importing skills that are absolutely necessary.
No more 50 family members who come here, sign on and then moan about our empire days.

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Jul 20 1.49pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger The crucial thing is that the point system in Australia is designed for a country that is fussy about who it imports but needs skilled workers as it's population is relatively small. Britain is already overcrowded, has far too many scroungers and should only be importing skills that are absolutely necessary. No more 50 family members who come here, sign on and then moan about our empire days. You're right. If I move to Australia (I already did but moved back) I can bring my immediate family. Why are we letting extended families move here? Who is that helping? Not the people already here, that's for sure. I hope all that is over immediately - if there is a six month/twelve month delay, expect a deluge. Not that the media or government will mention it. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Jul 20 1.49pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You're right. If I move to Australia (I already did but moved back) I can bring my immediate family. Why are we letting extended families move here? Who is that helping? Not the people already here, that's for sure. I hope all that is over immediately - if there is a six month/twelve month delay, expect a deluge. Not that the media or government will mention it.

Red and Blue Army!

Spiderman Horsham 01 Jul 20 5.39pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC You're right. If I move to Australia (I already did but moved back) I can bring my immediate family. Why are we letting extended families move here? Who is that helping? Not the people already here, that's for sure. I hope all that is over immediately - if there is a six month/twelve month delay, expect a deluge. Not that the media or government will mention it. Human Rights is the answer to your question, together with EU family permits

Spiderman

Horsham 01 Jul 20 5.39pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Human Rights is the answer to your question, together with EU family permits

Penge Eagle Beckenham 02 Jul 20 10.15pm
Remember they told us the major companies will leave Britain and there will be thousands of job losses? Strangely, I couldn't find this story on mainstream media... [Tweet Link]

Penge Eagle

Beckenham 02 Jul 20 10.15pm

Remember they told us the major companies will leave Britain and there will be thousands of job losses? Strangely, I couldn't find this story on mainstream media...

[Tweet Link]

Spiderman Horsham 02 Jul 20 10.29pm
Originally posted by Penge Eagle Remember they told us the major companies will leave Britain and there will be thousands of job losses? Strangely, I couldn't find this story on mainstream media... [Tweet Link] Saw this and posted it a few days ago. Interestingly no remainer felt inclined to reply. This is the industry my daughter works in, believe me it is not going anywhere and is very much going to remain UK based

Spiderman

Horsham 02 Jul 20 10.29pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Remember they told us the major companies will leave Britain and there will be thousands of job losses? Strangely, I couldn't find this story on mainstream media...

[Tweet Link]

Saw this and posted it a few days ago. Interestingly no remainer felt inclined to reply. This is the industry my daughter works in, believe me it is not going anywhere and is very much going to remain UK based

Spiderman Horsham 02 Jul 20 10.30pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Saw this and posted it a few days ago. Interestingly no remainer felt inclined to reply. This is the industry my daughter works in, believe me it is not going anywhere and is very much going to remain UK based ‘It’s true, bbc not reported it! Can’t be important enough, no history to obliterate

Spiderman

Horsham 02 Jul 20 10.30pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

‘It’s true, bbc not reported it! Can’t be important enough, no history to obliterate

davenotamonkey 21 Jul 20 12.54am
- Evidence of Russian interference in Scottish Independence referendum (in favour of SNP) - No evidence of Russian interference in Brexit (LOL) - Evidence of Russian interference in the 2019 General Election (playing Corbyn as their useful idiot). Oh dear, what will the narrative be now? It was all down to the Russians, wasn't it? [Link]

davenotamonkey

21 Jul 20 12.54am

- Evidence of Russian interference in Scottish Independence referendum (in favour of SNP)
- No evidence of Russian interference in Brexit (LOL)
- Evidence of Russian interference in the 2019 General Election (playing Corbyn as their useful idiot).

Oh dear, what will the narrative be now? It was all down to the Russians, wasn't it?

[Link]

Badger11 Beckenham 21 Jul 20 6.29am
Originally posted by davenotamonkey - Evidence of Russian interference in Scottish Independence referendum (in favour of SNP) - No evidence of Russian interference in Brexit (LOL) - Evidence of Russian interference in the 2019 General Election (playing Corbyn as their useful idiot). Oh dear, what will the narrative be now? It was all down to the Russians, wasn't it? [Link] That will upset the BBS. I seem to remember one former member of this board was convinced that the referendum was fixed by the Russians and their Brexit allies. When this story first broke I predicted it was not the smoking gun that the Remainers and pro Corbyn supporters thought it would be that in fact it would be a bit of a damp squid. We will see today who was right from what I heard so far I don't understand why this was not released at the time. Edited by Badger11 (21 Jul 2020 6.30am) One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 21 Jul 20 6.29am

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

- Evidence of Russian interference in Scottish Independence referendum (in favour of SNP)
- No evidence of Russian interference in Brexit (LOL)
- Evidence of Russian interference in the 2019 General Election (playing Corbyn as their useful idiot).

Oh dear, what will the narrative be now? It was all down to the Russians, wasn't it?

[Link]

That will upset the BBS. I seem to remember one former member of this board was convinced that the referendum was fixed by the Russians and their Brexit allies.

When this story first broke I predicted it was not the smoking gun that the Remainers and pro Corbyn supporters thought it would be that in fact it would be a bit of a damp squid.

We will see today who was right from what I heard so far I don't understand why this was not released at the time.

Edited by Badger11 (21 Jul 2020 6.30am)

One more point

Badger11 Beckenham 21 Jul 20 9.16am
The EU has agreed a bailout deal with it's member countries I am more interest in the fallout two things to look for in the near future: 1. Rumour is that an EU wide tax will be created to help pay for this, signifiant because it will be the EU instead of member states that controls it. 2. What impact will this have on the Brexit talks it is in no one's interest not to have a trade deal so will this soften the EU's position? One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 21 Jul 20 9.16am

The EU has agreed a bailout deal with it's member countries I am more interest in the fallout two things to look for in the near future:

1. Rumour is that an EU wide tax will be created to help pay for this, signifiant because it will be the EU instead of member states that controls it.

2. What impact will this have on the Brexit talks it is in no one's interest not to have a trade deal so will this soften the EU's position?

One more point

steeleye20 Croydon 21 Jul 20 11.43am
The EU 750bn euros virus protection fund does not bear any comparison to the UKs world-beating offer of a cheap meal in August and mass unemployment.

steeleye20

Croydon 21 Jul 20 11.43am

The EU 750bn euros virus protection fund does not bear any comparison to the UKs world-beating offer of a cheap meal in August and mass unemployment.

Badger11 Beckenham 21 Jul 20 11.55am
Originally posted by steeleye20 The EU 750bn euros virus protection fund does not bear any comparison to the UKs world-beating offer of a cheap meal in August and mass unemployment. I would love to know how this money is eventually spent in the EU. I bet the mafia are rubbing their hands with glee. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 21 Jul 20 11.55am

Originally posted by steeleye20

The EU 750bn euros virus protection fund does not bear any comparison to the UKs world-beating offer of a cheap meal in August and mass unemployment.

I would love to know how this money is eventually spent in the EU. I bet the mafia are rubbing their hands with glee.

One more point

Matov 21 Jul 20 11.57am
Originally posted by Badger11 The EU has agreed a bailout deal with it's member countries I am more interest in the fallout two things to look for in the near future: 1. Rumour is that an EU wide tax will be created to help pay for this, signifiant because it will be the EU instead of member states that controls it. 2. What impact will this have on the Brexit talks it is in no one's interest not to have a trade deal so will this soften the EU's position? With regards to 1, then the Devil is in the detail. If it is an effective EU wide tax imposed on individuals accross the entire 27 and managed from Brussels then it is a huge development. And perhaps the first major decision the EU has taken that would not have happened if the UK had remained inside it. But lets see. As to the second, then I suspect not a lot really. They will progress as they progress and there is a lot of smoke and mirrors about at the moment. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Matov

21 Jul 20 11.57am

Originally posted by Badger11

The EU has agreed a bailout deal with it's member countries I am more interest in the fallout two things to look for in the near future:

1. Rumour is that an EU wide tax will be created to help pay for this, signifiant because it will be the EU instead of member states that controls it.

2. What impact will this have on the Brexit talks it is in no one's interest not to have a trade deal so will this soften the EU's position?

With regards to 1, then the Devil is in the detail. If it is an effective EU wide tax imposed on individuals accross the entire 27 and managed from Brussels then it is a huge development. And perhaps the first major decision the EU has taken that would not have happened if the UK had remained inside it. But lets see.

As to the second, then I suspect not a lot really. They will progress as they progress and there is a lot of smoke and mirrors about at the moment.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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