chris123 hove actually 13 Feb 21 6.02pm |
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Time is up - that was quite shocking, something has gone badly wrong in this results business.
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pompeyeagle Relocated to Shropshire 13 Feb 21 6.03pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
If we were in the bottom three,or just a few points off the relegation zone, I believe that there might have been a temptation to make a change.In our current position I believe the likelihood is that Mr Hodgson will continue to the end of the season.
That’s what I think, as depressing as that might be. If the gap was to close considerably then that might change, but I don’t think it will.
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Harpo Oxfordshire 13 Feb 21 6.05pm |
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With only a few weeks before season tickets go on sale for next season, SP will have no option than to part company with RH. It will cost hundreds of thousands in lost sales otherwise.
Being successful in business, I expect him to have been in contact to suitable candidates by now.
If he hasn't, the club is in deeper trouble than even I thought.
I sincerely hope that my assignment is an accurate one.
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daven Hailsham 13 Feb 21 6.11pm |
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Why wait until the end of the season, employ a new man now and keep Roy till end of the season as an advisor. We have a perfect opportunity for a new man to take control with competitive games to get these players functioning as a team. If Roy stays till the summer then the new man will just have friendlies to assess the players and they can be very misleading .
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grumpymort US/Thailand/UK 13 Feb 21 6.12pm |
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SP wont get rid of Roy we can all keep hoping its not going to happen
The only two ways he is going is if Roy chooses now to walk (not his type of character to do this) or come end of the season he decides to not renew his deal.
The other big issues anyway if he did go who really would want to come to the club.
Its the best time if going to go for a new manager we are safe and with so many out of contract end of season it gives time for someone to come in try somethings without it mattering much plus see which players we should try to renew (SP wont do this he always waits until the last minute to do anything)
I feel these players can do so much better we have talent and i believe they have lost passion for Roys type of football its to slow and negative all the time.
I would rather have AP even when we lost we would at least try to score not still mess around at the back trying to pass around going nowhere not do any subs until 10-5min left even then bring on a like for like player
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Putitout Oxford 13 Feb 21 6.14pm |
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It’s obvious Hodgson, takes the stick . And something is very wrong .But the team was set up 442 , as was Burnley,. It was told publicly prove you are capable of winning games without Wilf. The answer was woeful. A complete breaking of trust between them and the people that pay them. It was not a tactical failure it was as fine a demonstration of not being good enough in any area of play you are likely to see, I don’t think that group today would have got the points in a Div 2 match. Much has been made of how good certain players are, or would be if Roy would just let them off the leash, what a load of tosh, if ever that became a non starter it was in the last two games. There was plenty of attacking intent, just no noticeable vitality in that intent. And that on top of conceding three of the easiest goals Burnley, will ever score. This lot look like they know they will not be here next season, one of few excuses, for doing all they can to get their manager sacked, that’s if he doesn’t turn it in, Apart from any other reason changing manager now is far to late. So hopefully Hodgson won’t turn it in, but if he has blundered, it’s accepting that lot to work with. And if Hodgson goes by next season, and the playing group has not made massive improvement by then . A new manager may well not be enough to stay in this league, let alone be enough to bring more watchable football.
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Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 13 Feb 21 6.19pm |
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Originally posted by daven
Why wait until the end of the season, employ a new man now and keep Roy till end of the season as an advisor. We have a perfect opportunity for a new man to take control with competitive games to get these players functioning as a team. If Roy stays till the summer then the new man will just have friendlies to assess the players and they can be very misleading .
Advisor on what? He has to go now and we need to get rid of all the ineffective players leeching our finances. They'll soon disappear when they are not drawing over inflated salaries anymore. We have fallen into the trap of the over hyped PL.
Denial is not just a river in Egypt
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AERO 13 Feb 21 6.22pm |
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Appointing a new manager is sometimes all about timing.If the manager is available who SP and the board want then mow is the time to act .ie Eddie Howe or Lampard ? They might not be available come the end of the season .
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Mathers 13 Feb 21 6.23pm |
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If we don’t get rid of Roy after that shambles then we never will.
Goals on the 1st min of the 1st and 2nd half suggests the manager has completely lost the respect of the changing room and any ability to motivate the team.
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kevlee born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 13 Feb 21 6.24pm |
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Roy out! Buck stops with the manager. That was one shocking performance too far.
Following Palace since 25 Feb 1978
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Tickled pink Cornwall 13 Feb 21 6.28pm |
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Originally posted by Mathers
If we don’t get rid of Roy after that shambles then we never will.
Goals on the 1st min of the 1st and 2nd half suggests the manager has completely lost the respect of the changing room and any ability to motivate the team.
Our points are saving him ...for the moment.
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Tickled pink Cornwall 13 Feb 21 6.30pm |
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Brighton needs to see if our players want him to go.
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PatrickA London 13 Feb 21 6.43pm |
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We have failed to score in 12 games this season. We also have the second worst defensive record in the league this season. We neither defend nor attack well. Our set pieces are shambolic when defending and attacking. We continually set up in a manner that leaves us outnumbered in midfield. Leeds and Burnley play in very different styles and we never looked remotely like we knew how to handle either team. It's a mystery what world renowned coach Hodgson works on in the training ground during the week .
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jeeagles 13 Feb 21 6.44pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
Is Mr Hodgson the main problem or is the aged squad simply not up to the rigours of the PL any more ?
Today it would have probably been very different if we had Zaha,Schlupp and Tomkins in the team.
30 is only old for players that trained on a diet of full english, egg and chips from the cafe on White Horse Lane in the 70's.
If the manager can't take control of transfers or team talks himself and still plays an outdated system, it's obvious who isn't up to the rigours of the PL.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 13 Feb 21 6.47pm |
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I suppose one could argue that we had a number of players missing through injury including Zaha,Tomkins and Schlupp and with them in the side today it might have been a completely different game.
Dann was selected but he was really found wanting and he is just not up to PL standard any more. PVA was selected ahead of Mitchell but he was totally embarrassing as he has been in other matches, however Mitchell still has a lot to learn. Eze is far better centrally where he can drift between the lines and play more as a No 10 but he was selected to play out left and just as at Leeds he is not at his best when he has chalk on his boots. Benteke and Batshuayi were as awful as as been the case far too often.
We have suffered 2 abject defeats with disgraceful performances,both without Zaha, but prior to them we had back-to-back victories against Wolves and Newcastle.
Of course the manager carries the can but he can only select players who are fit and he is working with a 'Dad's Army' squad who lack energy,mobility and pace.Some of course will opine that he should have selected different players and played with a different shape.
Edited by Willo (13 Feb 2021 6.49pm)
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HesHereHesThere Beckenham 13 Feb 21 6.53pm |
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Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse we get a performance like that. This season is going to get very ugly and the way we're playing I can only see us getting 4 points from Brighton, Fulham, WBA and Sheff Utd. Its gonna be squeaky bum time right to the end. Roy doesn't look like he's got a clue at the moment, its time for him to throw the towel in. Don't really like Howe mainly because his Bournemouth sides have always given us such a hard time, but he's available...mind you he probably wont fancy it and who'd blame him looking at us lot at the moment.
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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 13 Feb 21 6.58pm |
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Has he gone yet, Willo had a text, he said.
This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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m/k mick milton keynes 13 Feb 21 7.04pm |
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I feel the time is ripe to move Roy on, it will be toxic next year if we have a bad start, assuming we are in the premiership, if we appoint a new man now, gives him time to assess players before buying in the summer
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taylors lovechild 13 Feb 21 7.04pm |
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There were a few infuriating decisions today: Andros came on against Leeds and we improved, so why did he start on the bench again? (only to come on and finally add some energy to the team again). Why start with the two Belgians up top, neither who are up to the physicality of Burnley and neither who really works very hard (Mateta looked more of a threat in 15 minutes); why doesn't someone tell PvA he is a left back at Palace, not a left winger at Man Utd? Why does Dann keep getting picked when he is about as slow as Hodgson?
Yes injuries were a big factor today, but the way we set up and some of the selections were just wrong and we all saw it before a ball was kicked, so why didn't Roy? The players looked downtrodden and lacking direction. I want Roy to be able to see out his contract, but f**k me he's making it hard to support that. When you make Burnley look like Barcelona you know you're in trouble.
If we can get Zaha, Tomkins, Schlupp and McArthur back that will make a big difference and Roy will probably get us across the line comfortably, but after the last two games you can't help but start wondering where our next point will come from (especially without Wilf).
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Putitout Oxford 13 Feb 21 7.07pm |
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Seeing that today ,reminded me of , Bournemouth, losing to us last season. They just had no ideas no pace or application. And neither did Palace today. Eddie, took the can, maybe rightfully. . But it just goes to show every team has a sell by date , and managers can not always see it coming or alter that quickly, in particular if the main problem is a lack of real quality throughout a squad, and an injury list taking out key players. It certainly shows how much care will have to go into any change of manager.
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