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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 04 Oct 16 4.11pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It's the same old broken record with the left.

You whine about Tory cuts and when you get in government, you haven't a clue.

Do we all remember the last Labour government and how glad most were to see the back of them?

In case you haven't noticed, we are still paying for their last little spree.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (04 Oct 2016 4.08pm)

Slowest recovery since the 1920's. Sudden realisation that ideological austerity isn't the answer.

You seem to ignore the fact that only two Labour governments have ever left office leaving the national debt higher as a percentage of GDP than it was when they came to power, and all of the others have lowered it as a percentage of GDP. The last one was after the biggest global financial crisis in decades.

That said, I was glad to see the back of the Blair Brown years. I left the Labour party when Blair pushed to go to war in Iraq on flimsy evidence.


Edited by nickgusset (04 Oct 2016 4.12pm)

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Oct 16 4.13pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Buddha in a taxi! If you don't want to believe me that's your choice. You don't give up.
This is a thread about Corbyn, not slanging match forum. I suggest you and I both treat it as such. You slaaaaag.

A nice seventies expression for someone who belongs in the seventies. Perfect.

Slade anyone?

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Oct 16 4.17pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Slowest recovery since the 1920's. Sudden realisation that ideological austerity isn't the answer.

You seem to ignore the fact that only two Labour governments have ever left office leaving the national debt higher as a percentage of GDP than it was when they came to power, and all of the others have lowered it as a percentage of GDP. The last one was after the biggest global financial crisis in decades.

That said, I was glad to see the back of the Blair Brown years. I left the Labour party when Blair pushed to go to war in Iraq on flimsy evidence.


Edited by nickgusset (04 Oct 2016 4.12pm)

An interesting interpretation of the facts. And yet most people wouldn't trust Labour with a piggy bank.

It's all Tory spin I suppose. I lived through the seventies mate and your sort want to take us back there but without the laughs.

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 04 Oct 16 4.22pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

An interesting interpretation of the facts. And yet most people wouldn't trust Labour with a piggy bank.

It's all Tory spin I suppose. I lived through the seventies mate and your sort want to take us back there but without the laughs.

Back to the seventies? Another line from the MSM.

A more equal society, affordable council homes for all, investment in infrastructure leading to job growth, community investment schemes, better relations between workers and their bosses, investing in green and renewable technologies, support for small businessesand entrepreneurs, a decent living wage for all.

f***ing lefties wanting all of this.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Oct 16 4.25pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Back to the seventies? Another line from the MSM.

A more equal society, affordable council homes for all, investment in infrastructure leading to job growth, community investment schemes, better relations between workers and their bosses, investing in green and renewable technologies, support for small businessesand entrepreneurs, a decent living wage for all.

f***ing lefties wanting all of this.

You have been "wanting" this sort of stuff for decades and yet when you were in government you suddenly forgot.

Ooops!

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 04 Oct 16 4.26pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

A nice seventies expression for someone who belongs in the seventies. Perfect.

Slade anyone?

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 04 Oct 16 4.27pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You have been "wanting" this sort of stuff for decades and yet when you were in government you suddenly forgot.

Ooops!

I wasn't in government!
Corbyn represents what I and many have believed / yearned for for years. A refreshing change.

Edited by nickgusset (04 Oct 2016 4.28pm)

 

elgrande Flag bedford 04 Oct 16 4.35pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

I wasn't in government!
Corbyn represents what I and many have believed / yearned for for years. A refreshing change.

Edited by nickgusset (04 Oct 2016 4.28pm)

Hoe old where you in the 70s nick...genuine question

 


always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

elgrande Flag bedford 04 Oct 16 4.36pm

Originally posted by elgrande

How old where you in the 70s nick...genuine question [/ote]

 


always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Oct 16 4.37pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

I wasn't in government!
Corbyn represents what I and many have believed / yearned for for years. A refreshing change.

Edited by nickgusset (04 Oct 2016 4.28pm)

A feeble diversion. It's easy to make such proposals when a party is in opposition for the foreseeable future.

We all have our dreams but most of us are smart enough to realise that they are just fantasy.

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 04 Oct 16 5.41pm

Originally posted by elgrande

Hoe old where you in the 70s nick...genuine question

I was quite a few ages over that ten year period . Born in 69.

Is it presumptive of me to think you are now going to ask don't you remember the chaos caused by unions then?
1. The unions did hold a lot of sway and got ideas above their station.
2. It was 40 years ago, unions have changed. In my experience, the best schools to work in are those that have a strong union group that works with school leadership. The model in Germany I'd a good one from my understanding.
3. The whole 'return to the seventies' argument is a false one used to divert away from the fact that it's in the interest of 'the few' to preserve the status quo. That is why there are so many s*** arguments against Corbyn. They don't like him because he represents a threat to the status quo.How many articles actually argue against Corbyn's policies rather than the kind of anti Corbyn rhetoric we see parroted by people?


Edited by nickgusset (04 Oct 2016 5.54pm)

 

elgrande Flag bedford 04 Oct 16 5.51pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

I was quite a few ages over that ten year period . Born in 69.

Is it presumptive of me to think you are now going to ask don't you remember the chaos caused by unions then?

Well obviously I don't need to now,but it was complete utter shambles

 


always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 04 Oct 16 5.54pm

Originally posted by elgrande

Well obviously I don't need to now,but it was complete utter shambles

See my edit and riposte above.

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 04 Oct 16 5.57pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

A feeble diversion. It's easy to make such proposals when a party is in opposition for the foreseeable future.

We all have our dreams but most of us are smart enough to realise that they are just fantasy.

Shouldn't those proposals be what we as a nation aspire to. You may want to shrug your shoulders and say 'well that's life. Live with it' but I'm prepared to fight and campaign for what I believe in.

Edited by nickgusset (04 Oct 2016 5.57pm)

 

Mr_Gristle Flag In the land of Whelk Eaters 04 Oct 16 6.01pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You have been "wanting" this sort of stuff for decades and yet when you were in government you suddenly forgot.

Ooops!

Well worth pointing out that many "lefties" have sound idealogical and evidence-based reasons for regarding Blair and his corrupt government as betrayers of the Labour movement and as destroyers of social mobility. I'm yet to vote Labour in my life, although that may well change.

 


Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

Mr_Gristle Flag In the land of Whelk Eaters 04 Oct 16 6.06pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Shouldn't those proposals be what we as a nation aspire to. You may want to shrug your shoulders and say 'well that's life. Live with it' but I'm prepared to fight and campaign for what I believe in.

Edited by nickgusset (04 Oct 2016 5.57pm)

Some of the playground bollox on this thread demeans its posters, but this is wisdom. Wanting a more equal society and wanting to improve the lot of the average citizen seem utterly sensible tenets to me.

 


Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 04 Oct 16 6.28pm

Do agree I just read of the increase of 250,000 in child poverty under Cameron in 1 year I don't think the tories have any humanity.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Oct 16 8.47pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Shouldn't those proposals be what we as a nation aspire to. You may want to shrug your shoulders and say 'well that's life. Live with it' but I'm prepared to fight and campaign for what I believe in.

Edited by nickgusset (04 Oct 2016 5.57pm)

You can aspire to what you like but don't be so dumb as to think that it will happen.
As a government, you have to live in the real world.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Oct 16 8.56pm

Originally posted by Mr_Gristle

Some of the playground bollox on this thread demeans its posters, but this is wisdom. Wanting a more equal society and wanting to improve the lot of the average citizen seem utterly sensible tenets to me.


We have a more equal society than at any time in the past.
The fact that 1% of the population are super rich is not the problem. In fact wealth drags all people upward.
Some people are more interested in being jealous of those who have more than them than seeing the reality.
Yes it's appalling that some people live in poverty in 21st Century Britain but if it was easy to fix then any government would fix it immediately. The meaning of poverty has changed. Now it means that you can't afford a flat screen TV. 100 years ago it meant you shared a room with 10 other people and had nothing decent to eat half the week.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (04 Oct 2016 8.57pm)

 

chris123 Flag hove actually 04 Oct 16 8.59pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Do agree I just read of the increase of 250,000 in child poverty under Cameron in 1 year I don't think the tories have any humanity.

Read this

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