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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (04 Oct 2016 8.57pm) I do tend to agree with this,I would like to see what constitutes poverty in 2016.
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Originally posted by elgrande
I do tend to agree with this,I would like to see what constitutes poverty in 2016. This is from what I linked above
Main Findings The percentage of children in relative low income BHC increased by 2 percentage points to 19% (not statistically significant) in 2014/15. The percentages of children in absolute low income and in combined low income and material deprivation, however, remained unchanged at 17% and 13% respectively. This is most likely due to families with children benefiting less from increases in full-time work than childless families, as well as the 1% uprating of some benefits. Children are at higher risk of living in both relative and absolute low income than the overall UK population. This result holds over the past 20 years and is true on both a Before and After Housing Costs basis.
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Originally posted by chris123
This is from what I linked above
Main Findings The percentage of children in relative low income BHC increased by 2 percentage points to 19% (not statistically significant) in 2014/15. The percentages of children in absolute low income and in combined low income and material deprivation, however, remained unchanged at 17% and 13% respectively. This is most likely due to families with children benefiting less from increases in full-time work than childless families, as well as the 1% uprating of some benefits. Children are at higher risk of living in both relative and absolute low income than the overall UK population. This result holds over the past 20 years and is true on both a Before and After Housing Costs basis. This is from the independent based on HM Revenue and Customs figures
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
An interesting interpretation of the facts. And yet most people wouldn't trust Labour with a piggy bank. It's all Tory spin I suppose. I lived through the seventies mate and your sort want to take us back there but without the laughs. Aaah, the 70's. The end of the Bretton Wood system, banks running riot (ring any bells?), oil prices through the roof, the FTSE/Dow Jones losing half their value...............and Slade. Apart from Slade you're right, it was all Labours fault
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Originally posted by nickgusset
This is from the independent based on HM Revenue and Customs figures But low income is a statistical point and doesn't equal poverty. If you increased every ones income by 50% you'd still have the same proportion on low incomes.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (04 Oct 2016 8.57pm) Ha, seriously?! Wealth drags all people upward sounds like 'trickle down economics' which has been super successful right? I feel so much better knowing that 1% are so much richer, and apparently dragging me up with them. Thanks, the 1%! I take your point that poverty in 2016 is very different from poverty in 1916 or 1816. But anyone who thinks that there is not real poverty in this country (someone who cannot get enough to eat, regularly, and faces hard choices about whether to turn on the heating or pay the rent in the winter) is delusional. It isn't just 'don't have a plasma screen TV' "poverty".
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Originally posted by leifandersonshair
Ha, seriously?! Wealth drags all people upward sounds like 'trickle down economics' which has been super successful right? I feel so much better knowing that 1% are so much richer, and apparently dragging me up with them. Thanks, the 1%! I take your point that poverty in 2016 is very different from poverty in 1916 or 1816. But anyone who thinks that there is not real poverty in this country (someone who cannot get enough to eat, regularly, and faces hard choices about whether to turn on the heating or pay the rent in the winter) is delusional. It isn't just 'don't have a plasma screen TV' "poverty". Hrolf is correct. The poor get richer when the wealthy get richer. It's simple economics.
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
Hrolf is correct. The poor get richer when the wealthy get richer. It's simple economics. Not according to this Trickle-down economics is the greatest broken promise of our lifetime Many other articles I could have chosen from...
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Not according to this Trickle-down economics is the greatest broken promise of our lifetime Many other articles I could have chosen from... Institute of Fiscal studies. Poorer are better off and in an interview last week they stated that it has improved every year since 2009. There's a variety of reasons for it but the bottom line is that it is improving
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
Hrolf is correct. The poor get richer when the wealthy get richer. It's simple economics. It really, really isn't.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Of course its not - the Chancellor Osborne admits his policies favoured the rich at the expense of the poor. Stop sending links to right wing rags - have a brain of your own.
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Originally posted by legaleagle
Whatever the stats are (and the Cameron government rejigged the child poverty ones in a way that resulted in a seemingly but not necessarily actual downwards trend),child poverty remains a sad comment on what we as a society (and through our votes elected governments) don't even begin to try to really address. As Dr Barnado's (hardly a left wing instituition) says: "There are currently 3.7 million children living in poverty in the UK. That’s over a quarter of all children. 1.7 million of these children are living in severe poverty. . In the UK 63% of children living in poverty are in a family where someone works. These child poverty statistics and facts will help to give you an idea of the scale of child poverty in the UK and the affect it can have on: a child's education
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Originally posted by legaleagle
Whatever the stats are (and the Cameron government rejigged the child poverty ones in a way that resulted in a seemingly but not necessarily actual downwards trend),child poverty remains a sad comment on what we as a society (and through our votes elected governments) don't even begin to try to really address. As Dr Barnado's (hardly a left wing instituition) says: "There are currently 3.7 million children living in poverty in the UK. That’s over a quarter of all children. 1.7 million of these children are living in severe poverty. . In the UK 63% of children living in poverty are in a family where someone works. These child poverty statistics and facts will help to give you an idea of the scale of child poverty in the UK and the affect it can have on: a child's education
Kind of linked to child poverty, the letter here is disgusting.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Kind of linked to child poverty, the letter here is disgusting. More to do with a s***ty teacher, or certainly deputy head? More of an education issue. Plus the mother had already paid? On another note and more on topic, anyone seen Jezza whilst the Tories turn ever so slightly Nazi?
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
More to do with a s***ty teacher, or certainly deputy head? More of an education issue. Plus the mother had already paid? On another note and more on topic, anyone seen Jezza whilst the Tories turn ever so slightly Nazi? Wouldn't happen in a local authority run school. I'm sure Corbyn will respond in due time. Is he not allowed to take a few days off whilst parliament is away? Yes there was the summer, but he was a bit busy then.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Wouldn't happen in a local authority run school. I'm sure Corbyn will respond in due time. Is he not allowed to take a few days off whilst parliament is away? Yes there was the summer, but he was a bit busy then. Of course he is but as is often the case with him it's about timing
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Wouldn't happen in a local authority run school. I'm sure Corbyn will respond in due time. Is he not allowed to take a few days off whilst parliament is away? Yes there was the summer, but he was a bit busy then.
No one is even listening to Labour any more, we've got a one party state.
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