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georgenorman 09 Jul 23 11.25am
Originally posted by eritheagle Kevin O’Sullivan on TalkTV yesterday said we will be astonished when we find out who it is. I hope it’s not Angela Rippon!!! David Attenborough?

georgenorman

09 Jul 23 11.25am

Originally posted by eritheagle

Kevin O’Sullivan on TalkTV yesterday said we will be astonished when we find out who it is.

I hope it’s not Angela Rippon!!!

David Attenborough?

YT Oxford 09 Jul 23 11.33am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Oh dear Mr Pedant. I assume that you mean hearsay? Indeed. Thanks for the correction. Originally my phone autocorrected it to heresy, which I noticed, and then to heresay, which obviously I didn't. In fact I'm not even sure heresay is a word, so I may have to look it up. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

Oxford 09 Jul 23 11.33am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Oh dear Mr Pedant. I assume that you mean hearsay?

Indeed. Thanks for the correction. Originally my phone autocorrected it to heresy, which I noticed, and then to heresay, which obviously I didn't. In fact I'm not even sure heresay is a word, so I may have to look it up.

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

eritheagle Erith 09 Jul 23 11.34am
Originally posted by Mapletree And you know this how? The individual whose parents complained appears unprepared to corroborate their parents story. Justice is a requirement for both sides. An allegation from a third party is simply that. It was said by Kevin O’Sullivan on live tv yesterday. I also know someone who’s wife works in a good job at the bbc and they kinda confirmed this.

eritheagle

Erith 09 Jul 23 11.34am

Originally posted by Mapletree

And you know this how? The individual whose parents complained appears unprepared to corroborate their parents story. Justice is a requirement for both sides. An allegation from a third party is simply that.

It was said by Kevin O’Sullivan on live tv yesterday.
I also know someone who’s wife works in a good job at the bbc and they kinda confirmed this.

YT Oxford 09 Jul 23 11.36am
Originally posted by Badger11 I was with you up to this point. Assuming he has not broken the law but the paying for explicit pictures if true then he has to be sacked. Most large corporates have a policy regarding reputational damage and I think this falls clearly into that category however it needs to be proven. Edited by Badger11 (09 Jul 2023 11.21am) I think we are singing from the same hymn sheet. I agree that it would be a career-ending matter for an employee of ASDA, the BBC or whoever. What I don't quite 'get' is the clamour for the BBC to be the investigator and then to investigate it in the public gaze. (I'm still not sure I've explained it too well though!) Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

Oxford 09 Jul 23 11.36am

Originally posted by Badger11

I was with you up to this point. Assuming he has not broken the law but the paying for explicit pictures if true then he has to be sacked. Most large corporates have a policy regarding reputational damage and I think this falls clearly into that category however it needs to be proven.

Edited by Badger11 (09 Jul 2023 11.21am)

I think we are singing from the same hymn sheet. I agree that it would be a career-ending matter for an employee of ASDA, the BBC or whoever. What I don't quite 'get' is the clamour for the BBC to be the investigator and then to investigate it in the public gaze. (I'm still not sure I've explained it too well though!)

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 09 Jul 23 11.44am
Everyone knows the BBC is absolutely top-drawer in terms of investigating it's own employees. Why anyone would doubt the ability of this politically-charged waste of licence-fee money to investigate itself is beyond my comprehension. I disengage, I turn the page.

Forest Hillbilly

in a hidey-hole 09 Jul 23 11.44am

Everyone knows the BBC is absolutely top-drawer in terms of investigating it's own employees. Why anyone would doubt the ability of this politically-charged waste of licence-fee money to investigate itself is beyond my comprehension.

I disengage, I turn the page.

HKOwen Hong Kong 09 Jul 23 11.44am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle I wonder why the enraged mother went to The Sun instead of going to the police Probably because she watched the Saville documentary Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

HKOwen

Hong Kong 09 Jul 23 11.44am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I wonder why the enraged mother went to The Sun instead of going to the police

Probably because she watched the Saville documentary

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

Badger11 Beckenham 09 Jul 23 11.55am
Originally posted by YT I think we are singing from the same hymn sheet. I agree that it would be a career-ending matter for an employee of ASDA, the BBC or whoever. What I don't quite 'get' is the clamour for the BBC to be the investigator and then to investigate it in the public gaze. (I'm still not sure I've explained it too well though!) OK, agreed. As for the clamour I'm afraid that is standard media practice the other outlets are trying to get the BBC to out this person rather than naming him themself. The BBC can't cry foul over this because they have done the same in the past and no doubt will do so in the future. I'm afraid it's all part of the dog eat dog mentality of that industry, relishing another company's discomfort and then going all holier than thou when it's them. The BBC has had great fun over the phone hacking scandal putting the boot into the tabloids who are now getting their own back. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 09 Jul 23 11.55am

Originally posted by YT

OK, agreed. As for the clamour I'm afraid that is standard media practice the other outlets are trying to get the BBC to out this person rather than naming him themself.

The BBC can't cry foul over this because they have done the same in the past and no doubt will do so in the future. I'm afraid it's all part of the dog eat dog mentality of that industry, relishing another company's discomfort and then going all holier than thou when it's them.

The BBC has had great fun over the phone hacking scandal putting the boot into the tabloids who are now getting their own back.

One more point

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Jul 23 11.55am
Originally posted by HKOwen Probably because she watched the Saville documentary Is it a crime? The child was 17. I'm not condoning it - merely wondering the legality here Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Jul 23 11.55am

Originally posted by HKOwen

Probably because she watched the Saville documentary

Is it a crime? The child was 17. I'm not condoning it - merely wondering the legality here

Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Jul 23 11.57am
Originally posted by georgenorman David Attenborough? He has enough sordid natural footage for a lifetime. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Jul 23 11.57am

Originally posted by georgenorman

David Attenborough?

He has enough sordid natural footage for a lifetime.

Red and Blue Army!

beak croydon 09 Jul 23 12.08pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC He has enough sordid natural footage for a lifetime. He has lead a wildlife.

beak

croydon 09 Jul 23 12.08pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

He has enough sordid natural footage for a lifetime.

He has lead a wildlife.

Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 09 Jul 23 12.21pm
Look out for Songs of Praise today. Will there be an absence of some smug presenter. ? I disengage, I turn the page.

Forest Hillbilly

in a hidey-hole 09 Jul 23 12.21pm

Look out for Songs of Praise today. Will there be an absence of some smug presenter. ?

I disengage, I turn the page.

YT Oxford 09 Jul 23 12.47pm
Originally posted by Badger11 OK, agreed. As for the clamour I'm afraid that is standard media practice the other outlets are trying to get the BBC to out this person rather than naming him themself. The BBC can't cry foul over this because they have done the same in the past and no doubt will do so in the future. I'm afraid it's all part of the dog eat dog mentality of that industry, relishing another company's discomfort and then going all holier than thou when it's them. The BBC has had great fun over the phone hacking scandal putting the boot into the tabloids who are now getting their own back. Good points. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

Oxford 09 Jul 23 12.47pm

Originally posted by Badger11

OK, agreed. As for the clamour I'm afraid that is standard media practice the other outlets are trying to get the BBC to out this person rather than naming him themself.

The BBC has had great fun over the phone hacking scandal putting the boot into the tabloids who are now getting their own back.

Good points.

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

Spiderman Horsham 09 Jul 23 12.51pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC Is it a crime? The child was 17. I'm not condoning it - merely wondering the legality here Yes it is under Protection of Children Act. as amended by the Sexual Offences Act This covers anyone under the age of 18 Edited by Spiderman (09 Jul 2023 1.09pm)

Spiderman

Horsham 09 Jul 23 12.51pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Is it a crime? The child was 17. I'm not condoning it - merely wondering the legality here

Yes it is under Protection of Children Act. as amended by the Sexual Offences Act This covers anyone under the age of 18

Edited by Spiderman (09 Jul 2023 1.09pm)

cryrst The garden of England 09 Jul 23 3.25pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Yes it is under Protection of Children Act. as amended by the Sexual Offences Act This covers anyone under the age of 18 Edited by Spiderman (09 Jul 2023 1.09pm) Only because Blair forced kids to stay at school. Prior to this 16 was an age thought to be adult enough to see right from wrong. I mean you could get married at 16 (well from feb this year it’s 18 ) and drive at 17. Is return post expensive? Edited by cryrst (09 Jul 2023 3.26pm)

cryrst

The garden of England 09 Jul 23 3.25pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Yes it is under Protection of Children Act. as amended by the Sexual Offences Act This covers anyone under the age of 18

Edited by Spiderman (09 Jul 2023 1.09pm)

Only because Blair forced kids to stay at school. Prior to this 16 was an age thought to be adult enough to see right from wrong. I mean you could get married at 16 (well from feb this year it’s 18 ) and drive at 17.
Is return post expensive?

Edited by cryrst (09 Jul 2023 3.26pm)

Stirlingsays 09 Jul 23 3.48pm
Originally posted by HKOwen Huw could you possibly mean? Indeed. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

09 Jul 23 3.48pm

Originally posted by HKOwen

Huw could you possibly mean?

Indeed.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 09 Jul 23 3.54pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 Welcome back Stirls . . . Could this possibly mean there will no more 'Snowman' at xmas? Ha! Who knows, but from what I'm hearing I think he's in the clear....he'll be walking in the air about it. Still, it's all just second hand information until it's officially revealed. I will say that I support the facts being established before that.....we don't want another 'Cliff Richard' situation. However, this has apparently been known about for some time. If so that tells you quite a lot about how the BBC treats this stuff. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Jul 2023 3.55pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

09 Jul 23 3.54pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

Welcome back Stirls . . .

Could this possibly mean there will no more 'Snowman' at xmas?

Ha!

Who knows, but from what I'm hearing I think he's in the clear....he'll be walking in the air about it.

Still, it's all just second hand information until it's officially revealed.

I will say that I support the facts being established before that.....we don't want another 'Cliff Richard' situation.

However, this has apparently been known about for some time. If so that tells you quite a lot about how the BBC treats this stuff.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Jul 2023 3.55pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 09 Jul 23 3.58pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC Is it a crime? The child was 17. I'm not condoning it - merely wondering the legality here No, but pretty bad considering the circumstances. I expect if this were Mick Jagger the reaction would still rightly be disapproving but different. When someone behaves so differently in private from their public persona then it does end up destroying them......Imagine the Pope doing the same and while it isn't illegal it's just not compatible with the role they took on. And if the stuff about crack cocaine is true then just another layer of bad. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Jul 2023 4.01pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

09 Jul 23 3.58pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Is it a crime? The child was 17. I'm not condoning it - merely wondering the legality here

No, but pretty bad considering the circumstances.

I expect if this were Mick Jagger the reaction would still rightly be disapproving but different. When someone behaves so differently in private from their public persona then it does end up destroying them......Imagine the Pope doing the same and while it isn't illegal it's just not compatible with the role they took on.

And if the stuff about crack cocaine is true then just another layer of bad.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Jul 2023 4.01pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Midlands Eagle 09 Jul 23 4.16pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC Is it a crime? The child was 17. I'm not condoning it - merely wondering the legality here It's an odd law as whilst one can shag a 17 year old one can't take explicit pictures of them

Midlands Eagle

09 Jul 23 4.16pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Is it a crime? The child was 17. I'm not condoning it - merely wondering the legality here

It's an odd law as whilst one can shag a 17 year old one can't take explicit pictures of them

Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 09 Jul 23 5.13pm
I have said many, many times that the BBC and the Metropolitan police are riddled with Freemasonry, i have made a study of it, and to pardon the expression, Arse covering is the norm. “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

Lanzo-Ad

Lanzarote 09 Jul 23 5.13pm

I have said many, many times that the BBC and the Metropolitan police are riddled with Freemasonry, i have made a study of it, and to pardon the expression, Arse covering is the norm.

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 09 Jul 23 5.26pm
i have some experience of Freemasonry. I considered it quite a moral-based organisation. To suggest the organisation itself was responsible/complicit in concealing/non-disclosure of evidence regarding this matter would not be my first thought. Rather, like-minded people have sought to preserve/enhance their careers or bank accounts. The police are now assessing any evidence that might be available to them. I suspect any ar5e-covering will be done solely by the BBC,...again I disengage, I turn the page.

Forest Hillbilly

in a hidey-hole 09 Jul 23 5.26pm

i have some experience of Freemasonry. I considered it quite a moral-based organisation. To suggest the organisation itself was responsible/complicit in concealing/non-disclosure of evidence regarding this matter would not be my first thought. Rather, like-minded people have sought to preserve/enhance their careers or bank accounts.
The police are now assessing any evidence that might be available to them. I suspect any ar5e-covering will be done solely by the BBC,...again

I disengage, I turn the page.

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