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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 18 Aug 15 4.28pm

Quote matt_himself at 04 Aug 2015 11.36pm

Quote Kermit8 at 04 Aug 2015 11.15pm

"Working class roots - the abandoning of...."

Night, night Matthew.


I haven't said tonight. If I have, please correct me.

You still haven't answered why you are actively trolling me across multiple websites. I will persist with asking you why in future until I get a satisfactory answer.

People have been yellow carded for less.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 18 Aug 15 4.37pm

Quote Stuk at 18 Aug 2015 4.28pm

you could add zeros to that and it would be somewhere near the number of biased links that you copy and paste.

Any chance of a synopsis or, even better, a real news source?


The DWP released a leaflet that included made up quotes under photos of random people saying how wonderful the new DWP systems are.

They released false, bulls*** information to mislead.
Can it be any clearer?

Here is a link to the bbc report. [Link]
The Independent [Link]
The Telegraph [Link]
Daily Mirror [Link]
ITV [Link]


Enough 'news' sources for you? I've included a spectrum of sources so that I can't be accused of bias.

 
Stuk Flag Top half 18 Aug 15 4.43pm

I'd already guessed after one look at the BBC home page.

You don't believe all those quotes you get when your council send out those magazines telling us how wonderful they and their services are, do you?

Next you'll be believing those people in the PPI adverts really did get back what they said. Or that those people actually did get a no win/no fee payout for falling over at work.

Edited by Stuk (18 Aug 2015 4.44pm)

 

Optimistic as ever
nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 18 Aug 15 4.47pm

Quote Stuk at 18 Aug 2015 4.43pm

I'd already guessed after one look at the BBC home page.

You don't believe all those quotes you get when your council send out those magazines telling us how wonderful they and their services are, do you?

Next you'll be believing those people in the PPI adverts really did get back what they said. Or that those people actually did get a no win/no fee payout for falling over at work.

Edited by Stuk (18 Aug 2015 4.44pm)


From this then, one must assume that you think it is ok for a government department to blatantly lie in literature it produces.

If you don't why don't you just concede that it is wrong and move on...

Edited by nickgusset (18 Aug 2015 4.48pm)

 
Stuk Flag Top half 18 Aug 15 4.50pm

Quote nickgusset at 18 Aug 2015 4.47pm

Quote Stuk at 18 Aug 2015 4.43pm

I'd already guessed after one look at the BBC home page.

You don't believe all those quotes you get when your council send out those magazines telling us how wonderful they and their services are, do you?

Next you'll be believing those people in the PPI adverts really did get back what they said. Or that those people actually did get a no win/no fee payout for falling over at work.

Edited by Stuk (18 Aug 2015 4.44pm)


From this then, one must assume that it is ok for a government department to blatantly lie in literature it produces.


One should assume they already do.

As if anyone actually reads those things and thinks "well it worked out fine for "Sarah" in the literature"...

 

Optimistic as ever
jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 18 Aug 15 4.55pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 18 Aug 2015 4.28pm

Quote matt_himself at 04 Aug 2015 11.36pm

Quote Kermit8 at 04 Aug 2015 11.15pm

"Working class roots - the abandoning of...."

Night, night Matthew.


I haven't said tonight. If I have, please correct me.

You still haven't answered why you are actively trolling me across multiple websites. I will persist with asking you why in future until I get a satisfactory answer.

People have been yellow carded for less.

Indeed they have.

Please refrain from trolling posters from website or threads and badgering them here. Do not persist in asking people the same questions, and if you can't avoid each other, please avoid turning general talk into your general slagging match.


 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 18 Aug 15 4.56pm

Quote nickgusset at 18 Aug 2015 4.47pm

Quote Stuk at 18 Aug 2015 4.43pm

I'd already guessed after one look at the BBC home page.

You don't believe all those quotes you get when your council send out those magazines telling us how wonderful they and their services are, do you?

Next you'll be believing those people in the PPI adverts really did get back what they said. Or that those people actually did get a no win/no fee payout for falling over at work.

Edited by Stuk (18 Aug 2015 4.44pm)


From this then, one must assume that you think it is ok for a government department to blatantly lie in literature it produces.

If you don't why don't you just concede that it is wrong and move on...

Edited by nickgusset (18 Aug 2015 4.48pm)


Not disagreeing with you, but I think its par for the course for politicians to 'put a veneer of truth on the business of dishonesty'

 

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 18 Aug 15 4.59pm

Quote Stuk at 18 Aug 2015 4.43pm

I'd already guessed after one look at the BBC home page.

You don't believe all those quotes you get when your council send out those magazines telling us how wonderful they and their services are, do you?

Next you'll be believing those people in the PPI adverts really did get back what they said. Or that those people actually did get a no win/no fee payout for falling over at work.

Edited by Stuk (18 Aug 2015 4.44pm)

I got one of those recently, I didn't realize it was my own council.

In fairness I did get 4k back in PPI, and those no win no fee cases are kind of real, but what they don't tell you is how much of the fee they take (at least 35% usually, more if it goes to court).

 

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]
Stuk Flag Top half 18 Aug 15 5.02pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 18 Aug 2015 4.59pm

Quote Stuk at 18 Aug 2015 4.43pm

I'd already guessed after one look at the BBC home page.

You don't believe all those quotes you get when your council send out those magazines telling us how wonderful they and their services are, do you?

Next you'll be believing those people in the PPI adverts really did get back what they said. Or that those people actually did get a no win/no fee payout for falling over at work.

Edited by Stuk (18 Aug 2015 4.44pm)

I got one of those recently, I didn't realize it was my own council.

In fairness I did get 4k back in PPI, and those no win no fee cases are kind of real, but what they don't tell you is how much of the fee they take (at least 35% usually, more if it goes to court).


My point being that people in those adverts, like the DWP leaflet or council magazines, are actors. Whether the stories are vaguely real or not.

 

Optimistic as ever
nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 19 Aug 15 12.21pm

Quote Stuk at 18 Aug 2015 5.02pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 18 Aug 2015 4.59pm

Quote Stuk at 18 Aug 2015 4.43pm

I'd already guessed after one look at the BBC home page.

You don't believe all those quotes you get when your council send out those magazines telling us how wonderful they and their services are, do you?

Next you'll be believing those people in the PPI adverts really did get back what they said. Or that those people actually did get a no win/no fee payout for falling over at work.

Edited by Stuk (18 Aug 2015 4.44pm)

I got one of those recently, I didn't realize it was my own council.

In fairness I did get 4k back in PPI, and those no win no fee cases are kind of real, but what they don't tell you is how much of the fee they take (at least 35% usually, more if it goes to court).


My point being that people in those adverts, like the DWP leaflet or council magazines, are actors. Whether the stories are vaguely real or not.


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Sep 15 5.34pm

And it goes on...
[Link]

 
susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 25 Sep 15 8.06pm

Quote nickgusset at 25 Sep 2015 5.34pm

And it goes on...
[Link]


That link is of an article over 18 months ago Nick ????

Things have processed on from then mate !!!!

 

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OldFella Flag London 25 Sep 15 8.18pm

Quote susmik at 25 Sep 2015 8.06pm

Quote nickgusset at 25 Sep 2015 5.34pm

And it goes on...
[Link]


That link is of an article over 18 months ago Nick ????

Things have processed on from then mate !!!!

A Song For Gusset ...


 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 11 Nov 15 6.06pm

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Seems Dave doesn't realise the effects Osborne's cuts are having on local councils.

 
kingdowieonthewall Flag Sussex, ex-Cronx. 11 Nov 15 6.17pm

no billy bragg?

 

Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.
matt_himself Flag Matataland 16 Nov 15 9.15pm

A good article that kind of sums up this thread to me:

[Link]

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 22 Dec 15 4.33pm

[Link]

Borrowing up again. Osborne has no clue.
No doubt he'll cut again instead of investing.
Still its probably the fault of immigration.

 
nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 15 Jan 16 6.52pm

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The bankers freinds...

 
nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 22 Jan 16 2.24pm

No responses fromtory voiters on here.

Let's try violent crime up as a result of cuts to the police service.
well done Dave + Co.

The chairman of the Police Federation of England and Wales has slammed Tory budget cuts after shocking new crime figures were revealed.

Steve White’s comments add to pressure on Home Secretary Theresa May , after it was reported that knife attacks surged by almost 10 per cent last year.

Murders rose 14 per cent and gun crime rose for the first time in almost a decade.

Official stats showed there were 27,487 stabbings and other knife crimes across England and Wales in the year to September 2015 – the equivalent of 529 every week.

Steve White said: “These figures show an alarming rise in recorded crime - which is what we have been saying all along.

“There were 1.3 million violent incidents in England and Wales in the last year, and yet the police service is currently operating with 17,000 fewer officers than five years ago.”

[Link]

 
npn Flag Crowborough 22 Jan 16 2.37pm

Quote nickgusset at 22 Jan 2016 2.24pm

No responses fromtory voiters on here.

Let's try violent crime up as a result of cuts to the police service.
well done Dave + Co.

The chairman of the Police Federation of England and Wales has slammed Tory budget cuts after shocking new crime figures were revealed.

Steve White’s comments add to pressure on Home Secretary Theresa May , after it was reported that knife attacks surged by almost 10 per cent last year.

Murders rose 14 per cent and gun crime rose for the first time in almost a decade.

Official stats showed there were 27,487 stabbings and other knife crimes across England and Wales in the year to September 2015 – the equivalent of 529 every week.

Steve White said: “These figures show an alarming rise in recorded crime - which is what we have been saying all along.

“There were 1.3 million violent incidents in England and Wales in the last year, and yet the police service is currently operating with 17,000 fewer officers than five years ago.”

[Link]


Not sure I follow this - surely Police are responsible for the identification of the perpetrators after the event, not prevention per se?

Would reversal of the cuts have diminished those figures in any way at all? Aside from the deterrent factor of having a police officer present when you are actually doing the crime (which pretty much never happens, neither has it ever happened) then I'm not sure how police cuts reduce crime (as opposed to crime detection rates, which I would totally accept)

 
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