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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 28 Sep 15 9.10am Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

I rate Lancaster, it is easy to forget just how much disarray England were in when he took over.

He dropped a bollock against Wales which in your home World Cup makes it 10 times worse but I still think it would be a shame to see him go.

 


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The Sash Flag Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 28 Sep 15 9.33am Send a Private Message to The Sash Add The Sash as a friend

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 28 Sep 2015 9.10am

I rate Lancaster, it is easy to forget just how much disarray England were in when he took over.

He dropped a bollock against Wales which in your home World Cup makes it 10 times worse but I still think it would be a shame to see him go.

I'm not so sure to be honest - Absolutely agree he turned around a team which was in total disarray but I think he has pretty much plateaued now.

Some strange decisions in terms of selection, a team for me that doesn't really have a settled identity and a team that has a mental fragility when it matters.

I am not sure Woodward is the man, certainly Rob Andrew isn't - I would like to see England look south of the equator for their next coach - which will probably give most of the RFU old farts heart attacks but with the pool of players England can draw from I think a SH coach could actually be a huge benefit.


 


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sydtheeagle Flag England 28 Sep 15 11.16am Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Quote The Sash at 28 Sep 2015 9.33am

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 28 Sep 2015 9.10am

I rate Lancaster, it is easy to forget just how much disarray England were in when he took over.

He dropped a bollock against Wales which in your home World Cup makes it 10 times worse but I still think it would be a shame to see him go.

I'm not so sure to be honest - Absolutely agree he turned around a team which was in total disarray but I think he has pretty much plateaued now.

Some strange decisions in terms of selection, a team for me that doesn't really have a settled identity and a team that has a mental fragility when it matters.

I am not sure Woodward is the man, certainly Rob Andrew isn't - I would like to see England look south of the equator for their next coach - which will probably give most of the RFU old farts heart attacks but with the pool of players England can draw from I think a SH coach could actually be a huge benefit.


What he said and +1. Not a single point I disagree with.

 


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thegreatlardino Flag crawley/selsey 28 Sep 15 11.45am Send a Private Message to thegreatlardino Add thegreatlardino as a friend

what he said + 2

 


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sydtheeagle Flag England 28 Sep 15 12.47pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Quote The Sash at 28 Sep 2015 9.33am

I think a SH coach could actually be a huge benefit.

Knowing the Old Farts, we'll end up with PDivvy LOL

 


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Quote sydtheeagle at 28 Sep 2015 12.47pm

Quote The Sash at 28 Sep 2015 9.33am

I think a SH coach could actually be a huge benefit.

Knowing the Old Farts, we'll end up with PDivvy LOL

I'd like to see someone like Jamie Joseph from the Highlanders get the gig but cant see it in a million years

 


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sydtheeagle Flag England 28 Sep 15 1.20pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Wayne Smith would be an interesting shout. Was Graham Henry's assistant with Hansen when the ABs won the last RWC. Before that he had a very successful spell running Northampton where he succeeded Geech so he has knowledge of the domestic game here.

 


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Not even sure if Lancaster will go if England fail to qualify - which has not happened yet anyway. I believe that to win a world cup you have to beat the best teams and am looking forward to the Aussie match.

 


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dannyh Flag wherever I lay my hat....... 28 Sep 15 1.42pm Send a Private Message to dannyh Add dannyh as a friend

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 28 Sep 2015 9.10am

I rate Lancaster, it is easy to forget just how much disarray England were in when he took over.

He dropped a bollock against Wales which in your home World Cup makes it 10 times worse but I still think it would be a shame to see him go.

He didnt drop a bollock The Captain did, he should have gone for the posts and not the set piece when he had the chance to do so, and he's got form for making the same idiotic choice.

If he takes the pen, even if Farrell misses, wales have to kick off back into English hands, and with little time left I'm sure they could've run the game down.

Blindingly naive and stupid from Rob shaw.


Edited by dannyh (28 Sep 2015 1.42pm)

 


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Quote dannyh at 28 Sep 2015 1.42pm

He didnt drop a bollock The Captain did, he should have gone for the posts and not the set piece when he had the chance to do so, and he's got form for making the same idiotic choice.

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Yes and no. He dropped a bollock by first picking the wrong team, then compounding the error by making the most ridiculous set of substitutions imaginable. That's what really cost England the game. We had the momentum and were ten points ahead when, for no apparent reason, he subs the halfbacks bringing in two players with a completely different style and that is the moment everything started to go to pieces. Robs***e made an awful call but Bomber carries the can for the loss.

 


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Quote sydtheeagle at 28 Sep 2015 1.20pm

Wayne Smith would be an interesting shout. Was Graham Henry's assistant with Hansen when the ABs won the last RWC. Before that he had a very successful spell running Northampton where he succeeded Geech so he has knowledge of the domestic game here.

Yep good shout that.

I just think England need a good kick up the arse and someone who can bring that extra edge.


 


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Quote The Sash at 28 Sep 2015 2.07pm

I just think England need a good kick up the arse and someone who can bring that extra edge.

The real knock on Lancaster is that we have the players but not the team. He has the raw material to certainly deliver a semi-final, maybe a final and, on a good day, winning the Cup. Only the ABs are demonstrably better and in a one-off game, anything can happen. But he's done a poor job, since initially sorting out the mess he inherited (and we all agree he did that very well), of exploiting the resources at his disposal.

As last week proved, there's no real tactical plan, there's no adherence to building in a clear direction, a commitment to players based on preference rather than ability and so on. It's all come to reek of the usual English sporting myopia and mediocrity. If we learned anything from 2003, surely it was have a plan two years before the RWC, prepare thoroughly to execute it and don't change it. At this level, Bomber is starting to resemble a rabbit caught in the headlights. And even though I don't want SCW back, why are the RFU not at least using him in an advisory role? He does know what it takes.

As far as Robs***e goes, saying he and not Bomber is responsible for the Wales loss is laughable. Who picked him, after all? The captain is the coaches voice on the pitch. For a start, Robs***e shouldn't be in the side and he's only there because of Bomber's absolute intransigence, blind loyalty and refusal to pick his best available openside (Fatty) because he plays in France. Second, Saturday was the THIRD (count 'em) time Robs***e made that call and the third time it's failed (Hint to Robs***e: it's not a very good call). So surely the coach should have nipped that idiocy in the bud long before the game and told him "never do that again on my watch." And thirdly, his unnecessary substitutions and not the penalty call cost us the game anyway. As to how Wigglesworth even got into the squad we can only wonder.

This week's selection against Australia will speak volumes. Bomber is damned if does and damned if he doesn't. If he reverts to Ford, he looks clueless. If he sticks to Farrell, he looks obstinate. If he picks Robs***e he looks desperate. If he doesn't pick him, he looks disloyal. I'm hearing a lot of rumours that there are divisions in the camp with the pack not happy with Wiggy (they look amazingly under-prepared for a scrum at World Cup time) and quite what Faz Senior is doing there I have no idea. He wasn't even a good Union player. Is the committee still just trying to get a return on its original investment in him? And why does he seemingly have so much influence?

The biggest thing we have going for us on Saturday is Poite. In recent years the Australian scrum has had major problems when he's been teacher. That said, if Marler spends another match boring in every time there's a set-piece, sooner or later someone is going to start pinging it. I can't believe he's got away with what he's been doing so far.

BTW Dylan played for us yesterday in the "friendly" at Sarries. Time for one of the squad to get injured I think.

 


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