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View JohnyBoy's Profile JohnyBoy Flag 02 May 16 1.34pm Send a Private Message to JohnyBoy Add JohnyBoy as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So now you claim that the EU was responsible for peace in Ireland as well?

So if they had chosen US law, would that mean that America won the peace?

Yes i am saying that the european human rights act and european law that was the cornerstone of the good friday agreement, but it was the people and leaders of NI who were responsible for the peace

 

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Originally posted by JohnyBoy

Yes i am saying that the european human rights act and european law that was the cornerstone of the good friday agreement, but it was the people and leaders of NI who were responsible for the peace

And that flimsy interpretation is your best argument to stay in?

I need say no more.

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

And that flimsy interpretation is your best argument to stay in?

I need say no more.

I have many arguments to stay in apart from peace. Proserity - average household being £4,300 pa better off, opportunity to live and work abroad (and be covered for healthcare), millions of uk jobs, the uk economy being better off interms of tax receipts and public services etc..i could ofcourse go on but no real need for me to say anymore either

 

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Originally posted by JohnyBoy

I have many arguments to stay in apart from peace. Proserity - average household being £4,300 pa better off, opportunity to live and work abroad (and be covered for healthcare), millions of uk jobs, the uk economy being better off interms of tax receipts and public services etc..i could ofcourse go on but no real need for me to say anymore either


I'm grateful for your efforts in pleading the 'remain' case but I'm still Mr Brexit, I'm afraid.

 


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Originally posted by Cucking Funt


I'm grateful for your efforts in pleading the 'remain' case but I'm still Mr Brexit, I'm afraid


No problem cucking, i respect that you will do it for what you believe are the right reasons

 

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Originally posted by JohnyBoy

I have many arguments to stay in apart from peace. Proserity - average household being £4,300 pa better off, opportunity to live and work abroad (and be covered for healthcare), millions of uk jobs, the uk economy being better off interms of tax receipts and public services etc..i could ofcourse go on but no real need for me to say anymore either

In 2030. So in real terms now, not £4,300. And it's calculated using assumptions of assumptions, ignoring the fact that since 2008 our EU exports fell below 50% and is now at 45% and if we leave and that trend continues and we exploit the potential of exports outside of the EU, that formula used to get to the £4,300 they wanted, is absolute tosh.

 


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View JohnyBoy's Profile JohnyBoy Flag 02 May 16 2.29pm Send a Private Message to JohnyBoy Add JohnyBoy as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

In 2030. So in real terms now, not £4,300. And it's calculated using assumptions of assumptions, ignoring the fact that since 2008 our EU exports fell below 50% and is now at 45% and if we leave and that trend continues and we exploit the potential of exports outside of the EU, that formula used to get to the £4,300 they wanted, is absolute tosh.

But it wasnt the worst case scenario apparently, the assumptions could have been worse but either way we aint gonna get a better deal than we have at the moment - although the out campaign seem convinced they will get free trade plus

 

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Originally posted by JohnyBoy

I have many arguments to stay in apart from peace. Proserity - average household being £4,300 pa better off, opportunity to live and work abroad (and be covered for healthcare), millions of uk jobs, the uk economy being better off interms of tax receipts and public services etc..i could ofcourse go on but no real need for me to say anymore either

All this stuff is biased. No one can actually predict with any certainty the economic effect of leaving the EU.

At best it is a better the devil you know argument.

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

All this stuff is biased. No one can actually predict with any certainty the economic effect of leaving the EU.

At best it is a better the devil you know argument.

This is true, we can only make reasonable assumptions - but biases will inevitably creep in

 

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The 2012 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to the European Union "for over six decades having contributed to the advancement of peace and reconciliation, democracy and human rights in Europe".

Totally right and totally deserved.

 


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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 02 May 16 4.38pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

The 2012 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to the European Union "for over six decades having contributed to the advancement of peace and reconciliation, democracy and human rights in Europe".

Totally right and totally deserved.

Yasser Arafat also once won the Nobel peace prize.

I wouldn't put too much faith into that Kermit.

 


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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Yasser Arafat also once won the Nobel peace prize.

I wouldn't put too much faith into that Kermit.

On the subject of questionable award-winners, Tony Blair was nominated (by a Norwegian right wing politician as it happens) for the Nobel peace prize. He didnt win that one, but did get a 'Global legacy' prize from Save the Children.

 


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