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black eagle. Flag south croydon. 02 Aug 18 8.57am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

An upgrade on Mutch, Puncheon and Lee. And RLC for that matter.

Agree Rudi,he looks brilliant on the 10 minute YouTube clip I saw.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 02 Aug 18 9.02am

Originally posted by matthau

All we’ve done is pay him a higher signing on fee. He would’ve been snapped up if he was asking 80k

We def given him quite a few mill up front

Yeah that’s what I think. But the other £90k is

£90k x 52 x 4 years = £18.7 mil.

I doubt we’ve given him that much. Maybe there’s no release clause or a relatively low one so he can move to the top 6 pretty soon.

 


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hellzdoms Flag London 02 Aug 18 9.02am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

An upgrade on Mutch, Puncheon and Lee. And RLC for that matter.

An upgrade on all three combined!

 

bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 02 Aug 18 9.04am

Originally posted by Ecopalace

As much as I hope it’s not true, I get the feeling it probably is. How else would we land such a young talent above all those champions league teams on a “free” who were by all accounts put off by his wage demands. it’s starting to all add up now, although I still believe it’s good business there are several risks.
1. Players such as Zaha feel under valued and become disillusioned.
2. If Meyer does not produce, we will never sell him to another club while on such a ridiculous wage.
3. We have a smaller squad to compensate such high wages.
4. Overall unity in the club with a player who thinks he’s a cut above the rest.


For a start, we actually have no idea what wages the club are offering Meyer. Zaha has reportedly been offered a more favourable contract that he has yet to sign, but he's already one of the, if not the, top earners at the club so I can't see he'd have any grounds for complaint. Let's not make any judgments about Meyer's future performance before he's even got here shall we?

As for this financial difficulties nonsense, that BSer from Brighton seems to have put the bloody wind up everyone. Steve Parish may have his faults, but financial dork he ain't, so can we forget some Seagull's opinion about our impending third administration, because our three owners could buy and sell The Lizard 10 times over.


Edited by bexleydave (02 Aug 2018 9.16am)

 


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tonymikejoe Flag UK 02 Aug 18 9.06am

This lad has earned himself a reputation as a money-grabber, holding his club to ransom after deliberately running down his contract.

His club suspended him for the final two games of their season after he complained of "bullying" by Schalke.

I think it is reasonable to assume we are paying mental money to secure Max's services, considering clubs like Liverpool and Arsenal have been scared off by his demands.

This is what he had to say about his old Sporting Director : "I just didn't want to be at Schalke anymore and work under Mr. Heidel. That's why [I didn't extend my contract]. Lately it just feels like bullying to me."

 

Littlebogreek Flag 02 Aug 18 9.11am

Originally posted by tonymikejoe

This lad has earned himself a reputation as a money-grabber, holding his club to ransom after deliberately running down his contract.

His club suspended him for the final two games of their season after he complained of "bullying" by Schalke.

I think it is reasonable to assume we are paying mental money to secure Max's services, considering clubs like Liverpool and Arsenal have been scared off by his demands.

This is what he had to say about his old Sporting Director : "I just didn't want to be at Schalke anymore and work under Mr. Heidel. That's why [I didn't extend my contract]. Lately it just feels like bullying to me."

Or Arsenal and Liverpool were never interested and it’s papertalk. Perhaps he was being bullied? Or perhaps we are paying a fortune for him and he’s a troublemaker. Reality is we don’t know and probably won’t ever know but to me it seems an excellent signing and if a top journalist that undoubtably knows more than all of us combined reckons its around 80k a week, that’s as close the the truth we’ll ever get. Young German international at 80k a week sounds like good business to me.

 

CPFC1965 Flag Warrington 02 Aug 18 9.48am

Or lazy old ex international German midfielder at £350k a week.

 

Mwncisee Flag Middlesbrough 02 Aug 18 9.51am

Seems to me on one hand we lament SP for not splashing cash at the moment and then when he does, in this case wages rather than fee we are questioning him. It's pretty clear SP is a tough negotiator and tries to be shrewd with money so i'm inclined to beliee he has Meyer on a deal that he thinks is feasible and sustainable for the club.

 

new_in_Wait Flag Lewisham 02 Aug 18 9.57am

Originally posted by tonymikejoe

This lad has earned himself a reputation as a money-grabber, holding his club to ransom after deliberately running down his contract.

His club suspended him for the final two games of their season after he complained of "bullying" by Schalke.

I think it is reasonable to assume we are paying mental money to secure Max's services, considering clubs like Liverpool and Arsenal have been scared off by his demands.

This is what he had to say about his old Sporting Director : "I just didn't want to be at Schalke anymore and work under Mr. Heidel. That's why [I didn't extend my contract]. Lately it just feels like bullying to me."

He'll still cost us less than Benteke/year. Benteke is probably on 4-4.5/year plus paying the 'mortgage' on him.

If Meyer is indeed worth 35M overall, that's still way less than Sakho and Benteke (fee+wages). And that 35M is over 5 years if he hits all his performance targets. He might end up costing us less than Schlupp (which I consider to be our most average player) but might have a much higher impact.

 

steven_t92 Flag Orpington 02 Aug 18 10.00am

Originally posted by new_in_Wait

He'll still cost us less than Benteke/year. Benteke is probably on 4-4.5/year plus paying the 'mortgage' on him.

If Meyer is indeed worth 35M overall, that's still way less than Sakho and Benteke (fee+wages). And that 35M is over 5 years if he hits all his performance targets. He might end up costing us less than Schlupp (which I consider to be our most average player) but might have a much higher impact.

If someone big comes in for him in 3 years time, we'll make more than that 35million back on him so can only be a good deal for us in the long term.

 

new_in_Wait Flag Lewisham 02 Aug 18 10.15am

Originally posted by steven_t92

If someone big comes in for him in 3 years time, we'll make more than that 35million back on him so can only be a good deal for us in the long term.

Yes, I think that's what Parish is counting on too. His contribution on the pitch will help us become more established and the money we'll eventually get for him will allow to improve the squad in 2-3 years' time.

Of course, it will be catastrophic (financially) if we go down and we can't sell him as we'll need to pay his wages and even half of his wage (if he goes on loan the host club pays half) would burden us. But hopefully that won't happen

 

dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 02 Aug 18 10.23am

If this guy is as good as he apparently is, then this is a fantastic move. With Spurs and Chelsea sniffing around Zaha, in order to keep him at Palace, we need to be moving forward. If this is the cost of keeping Zaha at Palace then I am all for it.

Five years ago, when we signed Dwight Gayle, I remember thinking that this was a shrewd signing because when we got relegated, he would bring the Championship firepower we needed to get back up.

We now have Benteke, Zaha, Townsend, Meyer (hopefully), Sakho, Van Aanholt - Internationals with Premiership quality and all players who would have been marquee signings back in 2013.

Exciting times.

 

Palace in the Blood Flag 02 Aug 18 10.58am

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

£80k here...


I think this figure is about right the 170kpw would have taken us into FPP problems unless we were selling one of the players who are on around 100k so wilf, Mamadou or Christian.

The player wants to play at the highest level and had fallen out with Shalke probably his agent had told him a big team in Europe would take him. It didn't happen so he has joined us, maybe he sees it as a stepping stone to a top European Team. Possibly he thinks together with players Wilf he can get us into Europe.

 

bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 02 Aug 18 11.08am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Not so. I remember 2 weeks of house hunting or getting his family over while we were badly struggling.

Luka Milivojevic didn't join until deadline day, 31 January 2017, the day we also played Bournemouth and he wasn't in the squad for the Sunderland game on 4 February; neither of which would be entirely unexpected. However he played 90 minutes in the next game against Stoke on 11 January, the first game he would have been reasonably expected to play in.

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Edited by bexleydave (02 Aug 2018 11.09am)

 


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Ecopalace Flag Wickham 02 Aug 18 11.27am

Apparently there is NO deal yet. See link

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AERO Flag 02 Aug 18 11.37am

Not good , Gives others chance to gazump us .

 

chateauferret Flag 02 Aug 18 11.43am

Originally posted by Ecopalace

Apparently there is NO deal yet. See link

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Made-up s***-stirring bollocks. International clearance only required for registration with English FA; see reputable press.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 02 Aug 18 11.57am

Originally posted by bexleydave


For a start, we actually have no idea what wages the club are offering Meyer. Zaha has reportedly been offered a more favourable contract that he has yet to sign, but he's already one of the, if not the, top earners at the club so I can't see he'd have any grounds for complaint. Let's not make any judgments about Meyer's future performance before he's even got here shall we?

As for this financial difficulties nonsense, that BSer from Brighton seems to have put the bloody wind up everyone. Steve Parish may have his faults, but financial dork he ain't, so can we forget some Seagull's opinion about our impending third administration, because our three owners could buy and sell The Lizard 10 times over.


Edited by bexleydave (02 Aug 2018 9.16am)

Instead of taking note of that Brighton muppet I’ve been reading some knowledgeable and intelligent posts on the BBS and we do have financial concerns regarding rules. Our wage bill being the 8th highest is a dead giveaway for a start. And our wage bill is 78% of revenue. The highest in the Prem, and that’s before signing Sakho and raising Zaha’s wage last summer and further business.

A bigger and more comprehensive picture will be presented by the Swiss Ramble online when it’s published because they’re sure to do one. It will make interesting reading and Parish will be worth his salt if this season, the season I feared, is a successful one and a Zaha sale later on or not we don’t get relegated.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (02 Aug 2018 12.10pm)

 


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fan Flag Caterham 02 Aug 18 12.27pm

This post has been merged from a topic called 'Max Meyer ' by bexleydave

Hope I am not jumping the gun as we have not completed deal but If what I read is right Palace paying £170000 per week for someone who did not score any goals or assists last season and who it appears has been turned down by a number of big European clubs over his wage demands. At 22 to run your contract down is pretty unusual.

Not sure what sort of message this sends to Wilf who cant agree a new contract supposedly considerably less than that quoted for Meyer. I appreciate Meyer is on a free but this represents £35m over next 4 years.

 

Adamoc123 Flag Ennis 02 Aug 18 12.32pm

This post has been merged from a topic called 'Max Meyer ' by bexleydave

Originally posted by fan

Hope I am not jumping the gun as we have not completed deal but If what I read is right Palace paying £170000 per week for someone who did not score any goals or assists last season and who it appears has been turned down by a number of big European clubs over his wage demands. At 22 to run your contract down is pretty unusual.

Not sure what sort of message this sends to Wilf who cant agree a new contract supposedly considerably less than that quoted for Meyer. I appreciate Meyer is on a free but this represents £35m over next 4 years.

Seeing his name in palace talk made me think we finally announced him, keep it to the dedicated thread in transfer talk until the point he is our player please.

 


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