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thechaddyboy Peterborough 11 Jun 19 3.28pm
If AWB does end up leaving any deal needs to include a sell on fee, that or we settle for 60 million (hopefully) & then forget about the Wilf fee they're due should he leave too Red & Blue since 73'

thechaddyboy

Peterborough 11 Jun 19 3.28pm

If AWB does end up leaving any deal needs to include a sell on fee, that or we settle for 60 million (hopefully) & then forget about the Wilf fee they're due should he leave too

Red & Blue since 73'

Daddyorc Atlantic Highlands, NJ 11 Jun 19 3.30pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger No they weren't. They were all senior players. AWB has just got started. You simply don't know football. How you can call Bale, VanPersie, Couthinio and Neymar senior players is beyond me. They were all relatively young (23-27) and had at least 4-5 good years left in them before they started to decline. None of the above clubs wanted to sell those players who were all in their prime years. If anything AWB is still relatively unproven compared to the above players. For your other point - according to a newspaper yesterday (I know, it could be cr@p), AWB's agent has already agreed terms with ManU, which means he'll be getting a big salary boost. He stated he's happy staying here, but if they've already discussed terms, then you can bet he's excited to get to a new pay scale. He's likely gone. Face it.

Daddyorc

Atlantic Highlands, NJ 11 Jun 19 3.30pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

No they weren't. They were all senior players.

AWB has just got started.

You simply don't know football. How you can call Bale, VanPersie, Couthinio and Neymar senior players is beyond me. They were all relatively young (23-27) and had at least 4-5 good years left in them before they started to decline. None of the above clubs wanted to sell those players who were all in their prime years.

If anything AWB is still relatively unproven compared to the above players.

For your other point - according to a newspaper yesterday (I know, it could be cr@p), AWB's agent has already agreed terms with ManU, which means he'll be getting a big salary boost. He stated he's happy staying here, but if they've already discussed terms, then you can bet he's excited to get to a new pay scale.

He's likely gone. Face it.

Tipp_Eagle Tipperary 11 Jun 19 3.43pm
Originally posted by taylors lovechild If it's true that AWB is on £15k per week then surely if he stays we will have to seriously improve that? With a fully-fit back four we have probably the best defence outside of the top 6, so it would be a huge loss, but our reliance on him is not the same as with Zaha. you are a bit off the mark . what i saw on the wage table for palace players his basic is 8,250 per week , pay the man a decent wage he might just stay oh yeah ,fcuk off brighton.

Tipp_Eagle

Tipperary 11 Jun 19 3.43pm

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

If it's true that AWB is on £15k per week then surely if he stays we will have to seriously improve that?

With a fully-fit back four we have probably the best defence outside of the top 6, so it would be a huge loss, but our reliance on him is not the same as with Zaha.

you are a bit off the mark . what i saw on the wage table for palace players his basic is 8,250 per week , pay the man a decent wage he might just stay

oh yeah ,fcuk off brighton.

black eagle. south croydon. 11 Jun 19 3.51pm
I hope we sign the Norwich fullback before we let AWB go.

black eagle.

south croydon. 11 Jun 19 3.51pm

I hope we sign the Norwich fullback before we let AWB go.

Midlands Eagle 11 Jun 19 3.54pm
Originally posted by Tipp_Eagle what i saw on the wage table for palace players his basic is 8,250 per week , pay the man a decent wage he might just stay Only on a football forum could one say that £8,250 per week is not a decent wage

Midlands Eagle

11 Jun 19 3.54pm

Originally posted by Tipp_Eagle

what i saw on the wage table for palace players his basic is 8,250 per week , pay the man a decent wage he might just stay

Only on a football forum could one say that £8,250 per week is not a decent wage

Tipp_Eagle Tipperary 11 Jun 19 3.57pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Only on a football forum could one say that £8,250 per week is not a decent wage Very true very true oh yeah ,fcuk off brighton.

Tipp_Eagle

Tipperary 11 Jun 19 3.57pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Only on a football forum could one say that £8,250 per week is not a decent wage

Very true very true

oh yeah ,fcuk off brighton.

Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 11 Jun 19 4.23pm
The going-rate wage for a 50m player is probably ~125k a week. In other words, to keep him and keep him happy, we're talking 25m MORE in wage outlay over 5 years PLUS the fee we forgo. If they bid 50m, I think we need to sell. I know full backs matter these days, but still. It's so much money. If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

Ginger Pubic Wig

Wickham de L'Ouest 11 Jun 19 4.23pm

The going-rate wage for a 50m player is probably ~125k a week.

In other words, to keep him and keep him happy, we're talking 25m MORE in wage outlay over 5 years PLUS the fee we forgo. If they bid 50m, I think we need to sell.

I know full backs matter these days, but still. It's so much money.

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

Maine Eagle USA 11 Jun 19 4.28pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger How do you know that? You don't know. If the point of selling AWB is to balance the books then very little of that money will be spent on players. That is a disaster waiting to happen. We need to strengthen our sick note defence, not weaken it. Lol. And you dont know anything either. You dont know that selling AWB will hurt our ability to attract other players (utter tripe most likely). Balancing the books is good enough. Our defence is fine apart from a left back. Joel Ward can do a job at right back and I am sure with 50 million quid we can sign another right back and have enough left over for a few packets of pork scratchings. Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Maine Eagle

USA 11 Jun 19 4.28pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

How do you know that? You don't know.

If the point of selling AWB is to balance the books then very little of that money will be spent on players.

That is a disaster waiting to happen. We need to strengthen our sick note defence, not weaken it.

Lol.

And you dont know anything either. You dont know that selling AWB will hurt our ability to attract other players (utter tripe most likely).

Balancing the books is good enough.

Our defence is fine apart from a left back. Joel Ward can do a job at right back and I am sure with 50 million quid we can sign another right back and have enough left over for a few packets of pork scratchings.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Hrolf The Ganger 11 Jun 19 4.32pm
Originally posted by Daddyorc You simply don't know football. How you can call Bale, VanPersie, Couthinio and Neymar senior players is beyond me. They were all relatively young (23-27) and had at least 4-5 good years left in them before they started to decline. None of the above clubs wanted to sell those players who were all in their prime years. If anything AWB is still relatively unproven compared to the above players. For your other point - according to a newspaper yesterday (I know, it could be cr@p), AWB's agent has already agreed terms with ManU, which means he'll be getting a big salary boost. He stated he's happy staying here, but if they've already discussed terms, then you can bet he's excited to get to a new pay scale. He's likely gone. Face it. Why any fan would approve of selling our best talent is beyond me. When you have watched as many years of mediocrity as I have to support this club, it seems totally pointless to splash out season ticket money just to see any hope of success disappear out the door every time.

Hrolf The Ganger

11 Jun 19 4.32pm

Originally posted by Daddyorc

If anything AWB is still relatively unproven compared to the above players.

He's likely gone. Face it.

Why any fan would approve of selling our best talent is beyond me.
When you have watched as many years of mediocrity as I have to support this club, it seems totally pointless to splash out season ticket money just to see any hope of success disappear out the door every time.

Hrolf The Ganger 11 Jun 19 4.37pm
Originally posted by Maine Eagle Lol. And you dont know anything either. You dont know that selling AWB will hurt our ability to attract other players (utter tripe most likely). Balancing the books is good enough. Our defence is fine apart from a left back. Joel Ward can do a job at right back and I am sure with 50 million quid we can sign another right back and have enough left over for a few packets of pork scratchings. That insight only requires not being an idiot. You have no understanding of football. No top player will sign for a Mickey Mouse club who clearly has no ambition on the pitch. You then only have money and top class facilities left to attract them and we have neither.

Hrolf The Ganger

11 Jun 19 4.37pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Lol.

And you dont know anything either. You dont know that selling AWB will hurt our ability to attract other players (utter tripe most likely).

Balancing the books is good enough.

That insight only requires not being an idiot.

You have no understanding of football. No top player will sign for a Mickey Mouse club who clearly has no ambition on the pitch.
You then only have money and top class facilities left to attract them and we have neither.

Maine Eagle USA 11 Jun 19 4.46pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger That insight only requires not being an idiot. You have no understanding of football. No top player will sign for a Mickey Mouse club who clearly has no ambition on the pitch. You then only have money and top class facilities left to attract them and we have neither. Man you are full of it, as per usual. So if we sell AWB we instantly become a mickey mouse club with no ambition? Ok. LMAO. Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Maine Eagle

USA 11 Jun 19 4.46pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

That insight only requires not being an idiot.

Man you are full of it, as per usual.

So if we sell AWB we instantly become a mickey mouse club with no ambition?

Ok.

LMAO.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

michaelpearce grays 11 Jun 19 4.58pm
we do worry alot and quick to blame the owners,CPFC has spent more on players than selling. AWB and WZ are big money to buy, to me thats great keeps us going, to many wanted us out of the cup comps to keep in the premiership,Zaha wants champions lge so does Aron and most of the squard,take it the ones who wanted us to blow the cups was crying with the thought of losing both due to them being short sighted, the board are not giving our best players away,the ground needs doing,so look at the bigger fix not short term, I fell we may keep both no logic, so no matter what happens to both players we will be ok to me AWB needs another season with us

michaelpearce

grays 11 Jun 19 4.58pm

we do worry alot and quick to blame the owners,CPFC has spent more on players than selling.

AWB and WZ are big money to buy, to me thats great keeps us going,

to many wanted us out of the cup comps to keep in the premiership,Zaha wants champions lge so does Aron and most of the squard,take it the ones who wanted us to blow the cups was crying with the thought of losing both due to them being short sighted,

the board are not giving our best players away,the ground needs doing,so look at the bigger fix not short term,

I fell we may keep both no logic, so no matter what happens to both players we will be ok

to me AWB needs another season with us

Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 11 Jun 19 5.00pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Why any fan would approve of selling our best talent is beyond me. When you have watched as many years of mediocrity as I have to support this club, it seems totally pointless to splash out season ticket money just to see any hope of success disappear out the door every time. What about if the bid was one trillion pounds? Okay so it won't be one trillion pounds but so what? You have your valuation (though you deny it) and others have theirs. I believe the club needs to take a little care over it's finances if it's to thrive. And personally, I'm just not as sold on AWB as almost everyone else. People see a career progression for him that I'm not so sure about. I would approve the same of any player if I thought the net result would be a stronger club. And that's what I believe here. If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

Ginger Pubic Wig

Wickham de L'Ouest 11 Jun 19 5.00pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Why any fan would approve of selling our best talent is beyond me.
When you have watched as many years of mediocrity as I have to support this club, it seems totally pointless to splash out season ticket money just to see any hope of success disappear out the door every time.

What about if the bid was one trillion pounds?

Okay so it won't be one trillion pounds but so what? You have your valuation (though you deny it) and others have theirs.

I believe the club needs to take a little care over it's finances if it's to thrive.

And personally, I'm just not as sold on AWB as almost everyone else. People see a career progression for him that I'm not so sure about.

I would approve the same of any player if I thought the net result would be a stronger club. And that's what I believe here.

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Jun 19 5.14pm
Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig What about if the bid was one trillion pounds? Okay so it won't be one trillion pounds but so what? You have your valuation (though you deny it) and others have theirs. I believe the club needs to take a little care over it's finances if it's to thrive. And personally, I'm just not as sold on AWB as almost everyone else. People see a career progression for him that I'm not so sure about. I would approve the same of any player if I thought the net result would be a stronger club. And that's what I believe here. I am also in this 'Camp'.Work-in-progress as far as I am concerned and maybe he won't develop into the full-back that many believe he is at the present time.Converted winger,still young and on a learning curve but in my humble opinion has the potential to become a really top good player. Edited by Willo (11 Jun 2019 5.35pm)

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Jun 19 5.14pm

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

What about if the bid was one trillion pounds?

Okay so it won't be one trillion pounds but so what? You have your valuation (though you deny it) and others have theirs.

I believe the club needs to take a little care over it's finances if it's to thrive.

And personally, I'm just not as sold on AWB as almost everyone else. People see a career progression for him that I'm not so sure about.

I would approve the same of any player if I thought the net result would be a stronger club. And that's what I believe here.

I am also in this 'Camp'.Work-in-progress as far as I am concerned and maybe he won't develop into the full-back that many believe he is at the present time.Converted winger,still young and on a learning curve but in my humble opinion has the potential to become a really top good player.

Edited by Willo (11 Jun 2019 5.35pm)

Hrolf The Ganger 11 Jun 19 6.07pm
Originally posted by Maine Eagle Man you are full of it, as per usual. So if we sell AWB we instantly become a mickey mouse club with no ambition? Ok. LMAO. To me, selling AWB spells trouble. I hope you are looking forward to another season of relegation struggle.

Hrolf The Ganger

11 Jun 19 6.07pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Man you are full of it, as per usual.

So if we sell AWB we instantly become a mickey mouse club with no ambition?

Ok.

LMAO.

To me, selling AWB spells trouble.

I hope you are looking forward to another season of relegation struggle.

Hrolf The Ganger 11 Jun 19 6.10pm
Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig What about if the bid was one trillion pounds? Okay so it won't be one trillion pounds but so what? You have your valuation (though you deny it) and others have theirs. I believe the club needs to take a little care over it's finances if it's to thrive. And personally, I'm just not as sold on AWB as almost everyone else. People see a career progression for him that I'm not so sure about. I would approve the same of any player if I thought the net result would be a stronger club. And that's what I believe here. It won't be a trillion pounds and we won't get a better team as a result. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (11 Jun 2019 6.12pm)

Hrolf The Ganger

11 Jun 19 6.10pm

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

What about if the bid was one trillion pounds?

Okay so it won't be one trillion pounds but so what? You have your valuation (though you deny it) and others have theirs.

I believe the club needs to take a little care over it's finances if it's to thrive.

And personally, I'm just not as sold on AWB as almost everyone else. People see a career progression for him that I'm not so sure about.

I would approve the same of any player if I thought the net result would be a stronger club. And that's what I believe here.

It won't be a trillion pounds and we won't get a better team as a result.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (11 Jun 2019 6.12pm)

braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 11 Jun 19 6.37pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Only on a football forum could one say that £8,250 per week is not a decent wage we should offer him a new contract of 100k a week, but insert a £80m release clause. everybody wins. do the same for wilf but for 150k & £100m release clause. ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

braunstoneagle

the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 11 Jun 19 6.37pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Only on a football forum could one say that £8,250 per week is not a decent wage

we should offer him a new contract of 100k a week, but insert a £80m release clause.

everybody wins.

do the same for wilf but for 150k & £100m release clause.

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

black eagle. south croydon. 11 Jun 19 7.16pm
Some reports on Twitter saying AWB to Manure is done with them paying us £53 million plus £7 million in add one.

black eagle.

south croydon. 11 Jun 19 7.16pm

Some reports on Twitter saying AWB to Manure is done with them paying us £53 million plus £7 million in add one.

davehuggins 11 Jun 19 7.20pm
Wow, if so then we need to sort a replacement. Fair price in today's very silly market.

davehuggins

11 Jun 19 7.20pm

Wow, if so then we need to sort a replacement. Fair price in today's very silly market.

TomThePalaceFanatic 11 Jun 19 7.21pm
£60m buys 2 Sakho's effectively. If we could sign a good replacement RB and midfielder or striker for around that mark then he has to go. Can't see his value ever growing as Alexander-Arnold or Walker is England's number one right back and his contract length is only going to shorten.

TomThePalaceFanatic

11 Jun 19 7.21pm

£60m buys 2 Sakho's effectively. If we could sign a good replacement RB and midfielder or striker for around that mark then he has to go.

Can't see his value ever growing as Alexander-Arnold or Walker is England's number one right back and his contract length is only going to shorten.

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