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 matt_himself  Matataland 31 May 17 5.22am |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Obviously we shouldn't read too much in to these things but... A Yougov poll now has the Tories failing to get a majority. Hard to imagine anyone would jump in to bed with them on the manifesto they've got, so... Corbyn 4 No.10? Question, one made by me a few times yet unanswered - how will Corbyn win if he doesn't get back Scotland?
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| matt_himself Matataland 31 May 17 5.30am |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
I suspect the more pertinent question might be,are you actually aware you have no idea what you are talking about? The Bar is a tried and tested preparation for good politicians.For example,22% of Conservative MP's have a legal background. Plus Starmer has been DPP and head of the CPS,a distinctly ungenteel job. I suspect he would in fact take your boy Mr D to pieces in a brain and nous not bluster and brawn contest that wouldn't go the distance.. That's the same DD who showed his political talents by losing a Tory leadership campaign he was favourite to win in 2005 by running a naff campaign epitomised by a picture with two women wearing tight T-shirts saying: Its DD for me. Having worked at the House of Commons and as a lawyer,I might be reasonably placed to venture the opinion (just an opinion)that the Bar is every bit as tough and mucky a cesspit for "operators" to succeed in as parliament. Any meaningful resemblance between Rumpole (set 30 plus years ago anyway)and day to day litigation lawyer life exists IMHO only in the minds of those who engage in fantasy based on reading novels and/or watching TV. Have you ever actually worked as/at either? Edited by legaleagle (30 May 2017 10.43pm) So you are not going to answer my questions or points but will instead launch into a series of unrelated and somewhat bizarre comments, eh Rumpole? Personally I believe you to be the stereotypical conveyancing lawyer, stuck in a provincial office, whom fantasises about the big time, making incredible and insightful speeches to the jury in the closing of murder trials, frees the common man from the clutches of the state and brings down authority figures with his flair for obtaining the truth of their activities, yet spends his time checking chancel repair searches, rueing societies oversight in only using him to sort out sales and purchases of surburban properties.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 31 May 17 7.34am |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
So you are not going to answer my questions or points but will instead launch into a series of unrelated and somewhat bizarre comments, eh Rumpole? Personally I believe you to be the stereotypical conveyancing lawyer, stuck in a provincial office, whom fantasises about the big time, making incredible and insightful speeches to the jury in the closing of murder trials, frees the common man from the clutches of the state and brings down authority figures with his flair for obtaining the truth of their activities, yet spends his time checking chancel repair searches, rueing societies oversight in only using him to sort out sales and purchases of surburban properties. I see him more as the guy who phones people up trying to get them to make spurious claims for whiplash injuries.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 31 May 17 7.38am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
How much is legal aid now. Used to be you could take your boss/company to tribunal. Now you need 1.8 k to stump up in case you lose. Yes, I think it is more difficult these days for chancers to pursue spurious claims against their employers. Why don't Unions represent their members, that is the sort of thing that unions are supposed to exist for.
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| matt_himself Matataland 31 May 17 8.00am |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
I see him more as the guy who phones people up trying to get them to make spurious claims for whiplash injuries. I disagree. We are dealing with a slightly angry loner, not to Breivik or Unabomber levels, whom works in a job he sees as beneath him and creates an online fantasy life that he believes will be believed by others. However, it is far too easy to see through this charade because of the insecurity and contradictions contained within his posts. He also probably thinks he is not telling lies. He is a lawyer and has been to House of Commons but it was in the viewing gallery to watch Blair launch one of his oil wars. At 9.00 he will be stuck behind his desk at the Sutton branch of his employers, reviewing a search for a house purchase in Epsom.
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Kermit8  Hevon 31 May 17 8.55am |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
I disagree. We are dealing with a slightly angry loner, not to Breivik or Unabomber levels, whom works in a job he sees as beneath him and creates an online fantasy life that he believes will be believed by others. However, it is far too easy to see through this charade because of the insecurity and contradictions contained within his posts. He also probably thinks he is not telling lies. He is a lawyer and has been to House of Commons but it was in the viewing gallery to watch Blair launch one of his oil wars. At 9.00 he will be stuck behind his desk at the Sutton branch of his employers, reviewing a search for a house purchase in Epsom.
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Attachment: | matt_himself Matataland 31 May 17 8.59am |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
surely there are some major property deals in Teigmouth that require your attention today, Michael?
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| Kermit8 Hevon 31 May 17 9.05am |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
surely there are some major property deals in Teigmouth that require your attention today, Michael? Yes, probably, if our business was 'property' but it is not so I won't be getting involved with houses today. I see you are still a full-time projectionist.
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| matt_himself Matataland 31 May 17 9.12am |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Yes, probably, if our business was 'property' but it is not so I won't be getting involved with houses today. I see you are still a full-time projectionist. Not at all, Michael. Just remembering those little slips you make every now and again which shine a light into your personal hell. How can you be a property developer and a rabid lefty? Easy! Create a bulls*** persona on a message board and dump all your guilt on there, making all those who have opposing views either 'uncompassionate' or 'trolls'.
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship. - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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| legaleagle 31 May 17 9.30am |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
So you are not going to answer my questions or points but will instead launch into a series of unrelated and somewhat bizarre comments, eh Rumpole? Personally I believe you to be the stereotypical conveyancing lawyer, stuck in a provincial office, whom fantasises about the big time, making incredible and insightful speeches to the jury in the closing of murder trials, frees the common man from the clutches of the state and brings down authority figures with his flair for obtaining the truth of their activities, yet spends his time checking chancel repair searches, rueing societies oversight in only using him to sort out sales and purchases of surburban properties. Wrong,wrong and wrong, again Though I do detect the potential for a pulp novelist.. I do love you when you accelerate from fifth gear into plain bonkers mode... Edited by legaleagle (31 May 2017 9.35am)
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| legaleagle 31 May 17 9.35am |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
I see him more as the guy who phones people up trying to get them to make spurious claims for whiplash injuries. Whereas I just see you as plain boring
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| matt_himself Matataland 31 May 17 11.18am |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
Wrong,wrong and wrong, again Though I do detect the potential for a pulp novelist.. I do love you when you accelerate from fifth gear into plain bonkers mode... Edited by legaleagle (31 May 2017 9.35am) The lady doth protest too much.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 31 May 17 11.26am |
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No one is Trump, I'm still not convinced that even Trump is Trump. Corbyn's prospects look better now than six months ago, but I wouldn't say they're good. It'd take something pretty special to deliver a win for Corbyn. Of course the fact that most of the objections about him seem to be about him and his connection to the IRA some thirty odd years ago, and not his policies seems to suggest that he might well be underestimated by those on the right who seem to have gotten locked into the same kind of dangerous thinking that the Democrats did over Trump (attacking the person, not the policy and the practicality of it).
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| Stirlingsays 31 May 17 12.16pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
No one is Trump, I'm still not convinced that even Trump is Trump. Corbyn's prospects look better now than six months ago, but I wouldn't say they're good. It'd take something pretty special to deliver a win for Corbyn. Of course the fact that most of the objections about him seem to be about him and his connection to the IRA some thirty odd years ago, and not his policies seems to suggest that he might well be underestimated by those on the right who seem to have gotten locked into the same kind of dangerous thinking that the Democrats did over Trump (attacking the person, not the policy and the practicality of it). Many on the left and even a few on the right are over the top obsessional with attacking Trump. This doesn't mean that they shouldn't attack politics that they don't agree with....however, plenty of them take it personally...it's so hyperbolic, Trump may not be very nice but he is not the son of the devil, and honestly their reactions are no better than the ridiculous behaviour of the republican tea party during Obama's time. Listening to their commentary they obsessionally look for anything to attack him with....I mean this guy is a known liar and s*** talker and hilariously they bring up his inconsistencies as though they think they are revealing something new to those who voted Trump or supported him. They still don't seem to get how this guy triumphed against all the odds and why. Perhaps they just can't. Since that American election I've become far more aware of one eyed journalism......how they subtlety control the narrative by selectively controlling the news items covered and by what messages are sent.....obviously we all know they do that but I never quite realized till quite recently how.....deliberately political it is.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 31 May 17 12.25pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Many on the left and even a few on the right are over the top obsessional with attacking Trump. This doesn't mean that they shouldn't attack politics that they don't agree with....however, plenty of them take it personally...it's so hyperbolic, Trump may not be very nice but he is not the son of the devil, and honestly their reactions are no better than the ridiculous behaviour of the republican tea party during Obama's time. Listening to their commentary they obsessionally look for anything to attack him with....I mean this guy is a known liar and s*** talker and hilariously they bring up his inconsistencies as though they think they are revealing something new to those who voted Trump or supported him. They still don't seem to get how this guy triumphed against all the odds and why. Perhaps they just can't. Since that American election I've become far more aware of one eyed journalism......how they subtlety control the narrative by selectively controlling the news items covered and by what messages are sent.....obviously we all know they do that but I never quite realized till quite recently how.....deliberately political it is. It does surprise me how they focus on rather trivial things, rather than actually on the reality. Its astonishing how much on say the Evil of the Healthcare bill, and not on how it was 'totally at odds with his election campaign promises'. Something which probably would win over working class republicans, who effectively been lied to. That's really what they should focus on. That said, he is an idiot man child f**k up on legs (possibly Russian legs) sloughing towards Bethlehem, trying to take the democratic system with him as he goes. Which really says more about how poor the democratic candidates were in that they couldn't beat an idiot egotist, who's only real policies were repeating slogans over and over.
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 31 May 17 12.26pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
Question, one made by me a few times yet unanswered - how will Corbyn win if he doesn't get back Scotland? A coalition with the SNPs would probably mean he doesn't need to win back Scotland to get in to no10. Brexit talks start a few days after the election so a hung parliament would be chaos. How May was allowed to call an election at this stage is beyond me. Staggering arrogance, and putting our country at risk in negotiations by doing so.
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 31 May 17 12.30pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Down to around 3/1 in the bookies. What odds on you CF? Corbyn seems to have picked up a Trump like head of steam now. No matter what s*** they fling at him, he is coming through unscathed. Will May be Clinton? Well, I'm not standing so the bookies would struggle to make a book on it. The sh*t surrounding Corbyn isn't going to go away and it'll take more than handing out home-made jars of jam on The One Show to get him into No. 10. Middle England will turn out in droves to keep him out.
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