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 OknotOK  Cockfosters, London 07 Oct 16 12.21pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
He is a moron don't forget. He's also bragging about women being in key positions when they have never had a female leader and while the government has one currently. I actually suspect he is (not unreasonably) not bragging but making sure people are aware so he can't be criticised for it, as he was in the last reshuffle. Abbott is a poor but not surprising choice. She has supported him more ardently than anyone else.
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| OknotOK Cockfosters, London 07 Oct 16 12.23pm |
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Originally posted by We are goin up!
4. Yes, in your book. But not in anyone with an ounce of financial sanity's book. Most of the rest I have some sympathy with. The above is absolutely factually incorrect. A huge number of economists - globally respected - called for additional investment and a reduction to austerity. To suggest that supporting investment over austerity is a choice made only by anyone without an ounce of financial sanity is completely untrue.
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| Hoof Hearted 07 Oct 16 12.31pm | |
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Originally posted by OknotOK
Most of the rest I have some sympathy with. The above is absolutely factually incorrect. A huge number of economists - globally respected - called for additional investment and a reduction to austerity. To suggest that supporting investment over austerity is a choice made only by anyone without an ounce of financial sanity is completely untrue. .... they got it completely wrong about the £/Euro debate and are already looking foolish over their Brexit forecasts of economic armageddon. Hugely respected? I think not... overblown number crunchers is more of an accurate description of them and their Science.
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| OknotOK Cockfosters, London 07 Oct 16 12.33pm |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
.... they got it completely wrong about the £/Euro debate and are already looking foolish over their Brexit forecasts of economic armageddon. Hugely respected? I think not... overblown number crunchers is more of an accurate description of them and their Science. If you say so
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| Hoof Hearted 07 Oct 16 12.39pm | |
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Originally posted by OknotOK
If you say so Too many unknowns. If you put in skewed figures and unrealistic growth assumptions into the projections you can get all sorts of answers. Economic forecasts are like weather forecasts really... unreliable at best.
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| OknotOK Cockfosters, London 07 Oct 16 12.46pm |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Too many unknowns. If you put in skewed figures and unrealistic growth assumptions into the projections you can get all sorts of answers. Economic forecasts are like weather forecasts really... unreliable at best. That's not an unreasonable argument. But doesn't mean they aren't respected, or that many of them have not or will not get things right. And the idea that austerity was a poor solution was backed up by numerous studies looking at historical precedent (admittedly with some contradictory studies as well, but largely in the minority). And that wasn't what I argued. WAGU suggested - completely fatuously - that no one with any sense would support the idea that austerity was an inferior solution to investment. He is wrong in that. Utterly. I know plenty of economists and it is quite probable they are wrong more often than they are right in their forecasts. But they are also mostly intelligent and educated people with plenty of sense.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Oct 16 1.15pm |
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Originally posted by OknotOK
That's not an unreasonable argument. But doesn't mean they aren't respected, or that many of them have not or will not get things right. And the idea that austerity was a poor solution was backed up by numerous studies looking at historical precedent (admittedly with some contradictory studies as well, but largely in the minority). And that wasn't what I argued. WAGU suggested - completely fatuously - that no one with any sense would support the idea that austerity was an inferior solution to investment. He is wrong in that. Utterly. I know plenty of economists and it is quite probable they are wrong more often than they are right in their forecasts. But they are also mostly intelligent and educated people with plenty of sense. Let's face it, austerity was more ideologically driven (cut services, benefits, pay etc) than financially. Interesting video about the outcomes of tory economic policies...
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 07 Oct 16 1.43pm |
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Attachment: | nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Oct 16 3.04pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
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What was this in response to? Is there any context to the remark? Or does the real context nullify any insinuations that whoever 'lifted' the comment wanted to get across? This is an oft used tactic throughout the media / social media. 1. Not sure about the White people bit - does the person she's replying to use the words. What else should she call white people? Honkeys? 2. Divide and rule was a feature of colonialism, as it is elsewhere, is she wrong in this? Abbot is saying to @bimadew that they shouldn't be divided is my interpretation. 3. Abbott is by no means my favourite MP. However the way she is vilified is similar to how Corbyn is treated by the media. No real substance - just nastiness.
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| Part Time James 07 Oct 16 3.06pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
What was this in response to? Is there any context to the remark? Or does the real context nullify any insinuations that whoever 'lifted' the comment wanted to get across? This is an oft used tactic throughout the media / social media. 1. Not sure about the White people bit - does the person she's replying to use the words. What else should she call white people? Honkeys? 2. Divide and rule was a feature of colonialism, as it is elsewhere, is she wrong in this? Abbot is saying to @bimadew that they shouldn't be divided is my interpretation. 3. Abbott is by no means my favourite MP. However the way she is vilified is similar to how Corbyn is treated by the media. No real substance - just nastiness. They ought to do away with nastiness in politics. Although it'd be less exciting and I wouldn't know how to vote any more.
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| Part Time James 07 Oct 16 3.07pm |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
They ought to do away with nastiness in politics. Although it'd be less exciting and I wouldn't know how to vote any more. And this thread wouldn't be as long!
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| Stuk Top half 07 Oct 16 3.25pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
What was this in response to? Is there any context to the remark? Or does the real context nullify any insinuations that whoever 'lifted' the comment wanted to get across? This is an oft used tactic throughout the media / social media. 1. Not sure about the White people bit - does the person she's replying to use the words. What else should she call white people? Honkeys? 2. Divide and rule was a feature of colonialism, as it is elsewhere, is she wrong in this? Abbot is saying to @bimadew that they shouldn't be divided is my interpretation. 3. Abbott is by no means my favourite MP. However the way she is vilified is similar to how Corbyn is treated by the media. No real substance - just nastiness. You've just summed up Labour under Corbyn.
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| Part Time James 07 Oct 16 3.29pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
You've just summed up Labour under the Corbyn - Abbott sex tapes. EFA
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Oct 16 3.38pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
You've just summed up Labour under Corbyn. Careful you might get funniest poster thisseason
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| Stuk Top half 07 Oct 16 3.47pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Careful you might get funniest poster thisseason You're a dead cert to retain your most boring poster crown.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Oct 16 4.03pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
You're a dead cert to retain your most boring poster crown. Fantastic!
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 07 Oct 16 4.57pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
What was this in response to? Is there any context to the remark? Or does the real context nullify any insinuations that whoever 'lifted' the comment wanted to get across? This is an oft used tactic throughout the media / social media. 1. Not sure about the White people bit - does the person she's replying to use the words. What else should she call white people? Honkeys? 2. Divide and rule was a feature of colonialism, as it is elsewhere, is she wrong in this? Abbot is saying to @bimadew that they shouldn't be divided is my interpretation. 3. Abbott is by no means my favourite MP. However the way she is vilified is similar to how Corbyn is treated by the media. No real substance - just nastiness. What am I insinuating? She is either prejudice / racist or stupid. Quite possibly / probably both The person she was replying to was black, she claimed she was talking about the British Empire. Which was of course complete horses***
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| blackpalacefan 07 Oct 16 5.13pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
Diane Abbott is now Shadow Home Secretary: How can this opposition be taken seriously? I'm not a labour voter but even though I disagreed with many of Corbens policies I liked that he stuck to his guns in the face of so many wanting him to leave. This is surely the final straw though. Diane Abbott!! Jobs for blunder prone f*ck buddies.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Oct 16 6.02pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
What am I insinuating? She is either prejudice / racist or stupid. Quite possibly / probably both The person she was replying to was black, she claimed she was talking about the British Empire. Which was of course complete horses***
Left wing labour MP in smear shocker!
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